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Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
« on: September 27, 2013, 12:08:10 PM »
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  • What should the proper punishment be for a disobedient wife?  I'm not talking about one that has committed adultery, but rather one that flouts her husband's authority in other matters.  Should the husband beat her?  Should the husband refuse to permit her to leave the family home?  In a Catholic society, should the courts punish her?

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    « Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 12:44:36 PM »
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  • It is a matter for the confessional.

    Men shouldn't be "punishing" their wives, rather getting to the root of the problem or faults for BOTH parties and trying to resolve the issue through prayer and the sacraments.

    I can understand that for certain things, perhaps it would be prudent to make changes such as to how money is handled, friendships, getting rid of certain hindrances depending on the circumstances. They shouldn't be viewed as punishment but rather an aid to helping the wife get to heaven.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 01:35:36 PM »
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  • She would probably kill you, which would bring undue stress on her (she'd need to go to Confession, pick out a suit for your burial, fill out forms to collect life insurance).

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    Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 01:38:23 PM »
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    What should the proper punishment be for a disobedient wife?  I'm not talking about one that has committed adultery, but rather one that flouts her husband's authority in other matters.  Should the husband beat her?  Should the husband refuse to permit her to leave the family home?  In a Catholic society, should the courts punish her?


    A husband should never "beat" his wife, just as he should never "beat" his children.

    But as a mild physical reprimand is certainly sometimes necessary for children, there is no reason why - from a Catholic point of view - it should not also be permissible for wives on (hopefully) very rare occassions.

    The husband - not the wife - is head of the whole household (children and wife). In addition to being priest and king of his house, he is also administer of justice (and has been made by God physically stronger than wife and child for this reason, in part). If he is being unjustly opposed by his wife, and a moderate physical rebuke will suffice to correct her (all other avenues having been exhausted), there is no (non modernist) reason why it should be considered beyond the pale.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 01:42:20 PM »
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  • Hmmm...    :detective:


    ‘The old custom of beating a walnut-tree was carried out firstly to fetch down the fruit and secondly to break the long shoots and so encourage the production of short fruiting spurs’: M. Hadfield British Trees (1957) Cf. L. nux, asinus, mulier verbere opus habent, a nut tree, an ass, and a woman need a beating.

    I have redde, I know not where, these verses. A woman, an asse, and a walnut tree, Bring the more fruit the more beaten they bee.
    [1581 G. Pettie tr. S. Guazzo's Civil Conversation iii. 20]


    Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/a-woman-a-dog-and-a-walnut-tree-the-more-you-beat-them-the-better-they-be#ixzz2g7V4nscp


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    « Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 05:18:43 PM »
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  • Bend her over your knee and give her a good and proper spanking.

    Wives are just little girls in big girl bodies.  :wink:

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    « Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 06:19:36 PM »
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  •  :jester:
    What manner of husband goes on an anonymous forum with a question like this?  Has he no love for his wife?  No respect for the intimacy of his marriage?  Is he a wussyman?  Or married to a  monster?  If the latter, why?

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    « Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 07:00:01 PM »
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  • I am surprised to find this thread in a "Catholic" forum. This bs should not have any place here.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 07:14:06 PM »
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    I am surprised to find this thread in a "Catholic" forum. This bs should not have any place here.


    How long have you been trad? I for one am not surprised.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 07:17:32 PM »
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    Bend her over your knee and give her a good and proper spanking.

    Wives are just little girls in big girl bodies.  :wink:


    Maybe there would be fewer divorces if more husbands did this.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 07:29:45 PM »
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    I am surprised to find this thread in a "Catholic" forum. This bs should not have any place here.


    How long have you been trad? I for one am not surprised.


    A couple of years only.... but still, beating one's wife as a punishment for disobedience, really? That's just not Catholic.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 08:07:54 PM »
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    I am surprised to find this thread in a "Catholic" forum. This bs should not have any place here.


    How long have you been trad? I for one am not surprised.


    A couple of years only.... but still, beating one's wife as a punishment for disobedience, really? That's just not Catholic.


    This isn't about "beating," it's about the husband's right to assert order and justice in the house including, but not limited to, corporal administration of that justice.

    What's not Catholic is to assert that women have an equal role in the household to their husbands, and exempting them from any corporal punishment is asserting just that. That's pure modernism / feminism.

    I can only assume you never knew many Catholic old timers from the Old World. The husband was unquestionably the boss in those marriages, and he was unafraid to use his God-given size and strength to assert that fact if need be.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 08:13:29 PM »
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  • How much 'flouting' and at what frequency and regarding what subjects would give a husband just cause to physically correct his wife?

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    Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 08:20:07 PM »
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    I am surprised to find this thread in a "Catholic" forum. This bs should not have any place here.


    How long have you been trad? I for one am not surprised.


    A couple of years only.... but still, beating one's wife as a punishment for disobedience, really? That's just not Catholic.


    This isn't about "beating," it's about the husband's right to assert order and justice in the house including, but not limited to, corporal administration of that justice.

    What's not Catholic is to assert that women have an equal role in the household to their husbands, and exempting them from any corporal punishment is asserting just that. That's pure modernism / feminism.

    I can only assume you never knew many Catholic old timers from the Old World. The husband was unquestionably the boss in those marriages, and he was unafraid to use his God-given size and strength to assert that fact if need be.


    Where is the OFFICIAL position of the Holy Roman Catholic Church in regards to corporal punishment for wives?

    Notice, I am NOT asking about obedience on the part's wife, but corporal punishment done in response of her disobedience.

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    Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 08:56:07 PM »
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    Wives are just little girls in big girl bodies.  :wink:


    This is so disturbing for many different reasons... oh man!

    Where's Dr. Anna Salter? I would like her input on this comment.

     

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