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« Reply #300 on: October 30, 2017, 11:23:42 AM »
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  • Evidently you are not acquainted with logic and reasoning ... aka theology.  That's why it's not possible to discuss this with you.

    lol. This is like talking to a child.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #301 on: October 30, 2017, 11:23:56 AM »
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  • It is all or nothing.

    No it isn't.  That's why God in His Mercy created a place called Purgatory.


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    « Reply #302 on: October 30, 2017, 11:25:11 AM »
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  • I already made clear, that disobedience is relative to it's object. And therefore is not always mortal.
    It is important to avoid all sins, not just mortal ones.  Disobeying and disrespecting one's husband is potentially a mortal sin or it might be a venial one. In both cases it is harmful to the woman's soul.

    All sins, in justice, deserve punishment.  That is the nature of sin.

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    « Reply #303 on: October 30, 2017, 11:25:27 AM »
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  • lol. This is like talking to a child.

    You clearly have a single-digit IQ, which is why you generally feel inferior as a man, and have the need to exert yourself physically over women ... to compensate.

    You obviously have never heard of logic, syllogisms, philosophy, and theology.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #304 on: October 30, 2017, 11:28:38 AM »
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  • I have every reason to believe that this guy would lie.  He's promoting an agenda and does not have a high moral character ... as evident from his posts.
    I see no evidence for this in his posts. Your use of personal attacks, rather than logical arguments, makes your position look weak.  


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #305 on: October 30, 2017, 11:29:35 AM »
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  • It is important to avoid all sins, not just mortal ones.  Disobeying and disrespecting one's husband is potentially a mortal sin or it might be a venial one. In both cases it is harmful to the woman's soul.

    All sins, in justice, deserve punishment.  That is the nature of sin.
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    « Reply #306 on: October 30, 2017, 11:31:45 AM »
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  • I have every reason to believe that this guy would lie.  He's promoting an agenda and does not have a high moral character ... as evident from his posts.

    Insults to distract.

    People will fall for it. but others will be more discerning.

    May we have a rise in the numbers of trads following this teaching. We will have much holier trads!

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #307 on: October 30, 2017, 11:32:52 AM »
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  • My rationale: Practice and Tradition of the Church and moral theology books.

    Your rationale: Masonic modern peverted ideas with no precedence in the Church.
    As far as I can tell, this is exactly how the two sides line up.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #308 on: October 30, 2017, 11:33:19 AM »
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  • No it isn't.  That's why God in His Mercy created a place called Purgatory.

    Thank you for informing me of the existence of purgatory.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #309 on: October 30, 2017, 11:43:53 AM »
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  • I should add that, on the occasions on which I have confessed disobedience or disrespect toward my husband, I have never had a traditional priest tell me, "Don't worry about it; this isn't serious."  

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #310 on: October 30, 2017, 02:14:58 PM »
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  • Not true, at least not the hate part necessarily and what is necessarily wrong with fear? I've know of lives and limbs not lost because of people hitting each other. Sometimes you don't have time to molly coddle someone who is being thick, and not paying attention, nor do you have the manpower to replace them.
    Who is afraid of a Catholic man any more? Nobody, esp. our enemies and they should fear us.

    Our women are more manly than our Nancy boy men by-and-large, the women see it, and that in turn breeds disrespect, and insecurity because it sends the message that we've neither spine to sand to either take care of business, or them when it all goes sideways, which only reinforces women trading clothes with us.

    Pathetic. I don't want some sissy like you anywhere near me when it starts getting really ugly and bloody.
    The common outcome of causing someone to fear or hate you is that they either leave or plot revenge against you. Is that what outcome you're going for here?


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #311 on: October 30, 2017, 02:49:54 PM »
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  • The common outcome of causing someone to fear or hate you is that they either leave or plot revenge against you. Is that what outcome you're going for here?
    I will respond to you further, on one condition; show your digital "face" and identify yourself. Otherwise, enjoy typing at air.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #312 on: October 30, 2017, 02:52:02 PM »
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  • I am new here, but you sure sound a lot like Pablo the Mexican in KY.
    Did someone hear something?

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #313 on: October 30, 2017, 03:20:45 PM »
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  • I have.  Several, in fact.  All traditional, some independent, some sspx, some resistance, some sedevecanti.
    The answers are varied.
    Some say, beat the hell out of her and she's supposed to offer it up.
    Some say, if he touches her he should be shot.

    Can't go by what priests say today.

    When the Magisterium has been silent on a subject, that's what you're going to find ... a variety of opinion.

    So let's return to argument.

    I have made a case for the position that husbands are not permitted to lay violent hands on their wives.  No one has attempted to refute it.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #314 on: October 30, 2017, 03:28:12 PM »
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  • When the Magisterium has been silent on a subject, that's what you're going to find ... a variety of opinion.

    So let's return to argument.

    I have made a case for the position that husbands are not permitted to lay violent hands on their wives.  No one has attempted to refute it.
    I have thoroughly refuted your argument.