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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #272 on: October 30, 2017, 10:39:38 AM »
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  • Why should Ladislaus ask a priest?  He is completely right.

    Can any of you imagine what would happen if a priest condoned corporal punishment of a wife?
    He'd loose half his parishoners.
    Adults don't resort to hitting each other.  Any adult who does is just a bully who hasn't grown up.
    Toddlers are spanked because you can't reason with them.
    From reaching the age of reason (5-6) to teens a good smack is a wake up call.
    After 16-17 they should know how to understand and other punishment is more meaningful than hitting.
    As mentioned earlier  Joseph never hit Mary when he found out she was with child

    If you must hit........be prepared for the consequences!


    Ladislaus should ask a priest, because if it is a traditional priest who was well formed, he will be able to tell him that yes the moral theology books do make it clear that corporal punishment is permitted for wives.

    The logic you outline above is probably why the Church says it should only be for serious sins.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #273 on: October 30, 2017, 10:41:57 AM »
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    I can remember 60 years ago fathers and brothers often telling a groom, "lay a finger on her and you'll have me to deal with".   Now that is the tradition I remember.
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    A "tradition" of pure sentiment attachment to the prevailing masonic ideas of the world.

    St. Pius X said modernists should be beaten with fists. This is what those fathers and brothers deserve.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #274 on: October 30, 2017, 10:46:12 AM »
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  • the moral theology books do make it clear that corporal punishment is permitted for wives

    False.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #275 on: October 30, 2017, 10:46:23 AM »
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  • When a wife refuses to honour, obey, and respect her husband she is committing a serious sin.  She would be far better off getting hit in this life, if it prevented her from going to hell or spending more time in purgatory.


    Thank you.
    Thank you ,
    and thank you again.

    For us men, not being punished corporally by the state for our sins is a very horrible position to be in.

    It would be a great incentive to avoid sin, but I can go off and do anything immoral within the law, and have virtually no corporal consequences except when I meet my maker someday.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #276 on: October 30, 2017, 10:48:15 AM »
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  • False.

    Did you ask your priest that?

    No?

    well go do it. I have seen it myself in TWO separate moral theology books used by priests.

    So go chew on that for a while.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #277 on: October 30, 2017, 10:50:56 AM »
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  • For us men, not being punished corporally by the state for our sins is a very horrible position to be in.

    So you can't find it in yourself to have remorse for your sins and purpose of amendment out of love for God and sorrow for having offended Him?  Then you are indeed in a horrible position.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #278 on: October 30, 2017, 10:51:11 AM »
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  • No.  Not every act of disobedience is a grave sin.  As with most things, there are degrees of veniality before there's serious sin.  Trad Catholics also seem to believe this about modesty, as if a woman wearing an otherwise-modest sleeveless shirt is the same as a woman wearing a mini-skirt or exposing 2/3rds of her breasts ... with the former being venial while the latter serious/mortal.  Same thing with disobedience or disrespect by a wife to her husband.

    We have already agreed to that. Try to move the conversation forward, not backward.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #279 on: October 30, 2017, 10:53:01 AM »
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  • So you can't find it in yourself to have remorse for your sins and purpose of amendment out of love for God and sorrow for having offended Him?  Then you are indeed in a horrible position.

    Never said that.


    But hey I am glad you are such an angel that you always are totally aware and conscious of every sin you commit, and you know better than the Almighty to know that people don't need it.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #280 on: October 30, 2017, 10:53:22 AM »
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  • Did you ask your priest that?

    No?

    well go do it. I have seen it myself in TWO separate moral theology books used by priests.

    So go chew on that for a while.

    I studied moral theology in seminary.  Have never seen it.  Cite references.  Otherwise, you're probably just a liar making this up to promote your own agenda.

    And even if you could find a source here or there that says this, I dispute their position.  Which is what this thread is about.  You have yet to make a single rational argument in favor of your position.  You simply emote like a woman and then, like the effeminate coward that you are, you refuse to de-cloak from your anonymity.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #281 on: October 30, 2017, 10:55:55 AM »
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  • But hey I am glad you are such an angel that you always are totally aware and conscious of every sin you commit

    :facepalm:

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #282 on: October 30, 2017, 10:57:01 AM »
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  • We have already agreed to that. Try to move the conversation forward, not backward.

    Nope.  This needed to be corrected ... along with all the other bogus information on this thread that can do harm.  Not every act of disrespect is a mortal sin.  This response of mine was made almost immediately after Jaynek posted it, so at the time nobody had "already agreed to that".  So you're full of it.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #283 on: October 30, 2017, 11:01:20 AM »
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  • I studied moral theology in seminary. 

    So does that mean asking a priest is beneath you? Serious question.

    often those who have gone to seminary tend to think themselves above these kind of questions. But I'll give you a chance to ask for yourself.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #284 on: October 30, 2017, 11:01:49 AM »
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