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Offline Jaynek

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Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
« Reply #90 on: October 25, 2017, 01:48:54 PM »
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  • As far as I know, there are no magisterial docuмents specifically addressing the question of the corporal punishment of wives, either for or against.  However, there are countless references to the husband's authority over his wife.  It is the nature of authority that it may be enforced and, for many centuries, Christians understood that this enforcement could involve corporal punishment (within reasonable limits).

    Earlier in this thread, we saw a passage cited from St. Thomas Aquinas about a specific instance in which corporal punishment of a wife by her husband is appropriate.  While this falls short of being magisterial, St. Thomas almost always represents the mind of the Church.  
    I posted the above and forgot to check the "not anonymous" box.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #91 on: October 25, 2017, 01:49:43 PM »
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  • More sophistry and bad use of Rhetoric. You're hitting about 900 with that "charity" bat though....


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #92 on: October 25, 2017, 01:50:15 PM »
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  • I am married.  My wedding was in 1980.  I have 7 children and 8 grandchildren. Also I am a woman.
    I suggest that people not assume that the only men accept that Church teaching involved the concept of a husband using corporal punishment on his wife.
    Again, I accidentally left off my name.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #93 on: October 25, 2017, 01:51:37 PM »
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  • Yeah you're full of crap. DISHONEST. Sophist.

    No, you're simply an idiot.  It's obvious from your posts that you've done some heavy drugs in the past, and that these have left your brain impaired.  Everyone is assuming that by corporal punishment we're referring to striking the woman with one's hands (vs. the other types I listed hypothetically) ... aka beating.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #94 on: October 25, 2017, 01:53:49 PM »
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  • Right. Because someone disagrees with your view, then obviously they are to be suspected of bad will or guile.

    Do you beat your wife?
    1. What, exactly, is my view?
    2. Regardless of what it is, if she were you, then likely yes.

    Either way, you are just engaging in more sophism, manipulation, and guile. 

    So,
    "get bent"... er.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #95 on: October 25, 2017, 01:54:43 PM »
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  • Have you not taken your meds today?
    etc. ...

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #96 on: October 25, 2017, 01:55:16 PM »
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  • "What if the woman was raped?!!!!!! What if it was your wife, mother, or daughter?!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!"

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #97 on: October 25, 2017, 01:55:45 PM »
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  • I would propose that people discuss this topic logically, but that is probably too much to ask for. The quoted comment, for example, does not follow from what I said and is an obvious logical fallacy.

    You're are not supposed to be arguing with men.  It's up to us men to decide whether or not we're allowed to beat you.  So keep silent, woman.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #98 on: October 25, 2017, 01:57:42 PM »
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  • 1. What, exactly, is my view?
    2. Regardless of what it is, if she were you, then likely yes.


    That may explain why you have been married and divorced, what, twice, is that right? 

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #99 on: October 25, 2017, 01:58:10 PM »
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  • That may explain why you have been married and divorced, what, twice, is that right?
    ... etc. ...

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #100 on: October 25, 2017, 01:58:29 PM »
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  • Enough with the white-knighting already.


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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #101 on: October 25, 2017, 01:59:35 PM »
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  • You're are not supposed to be arguing with men.  It's up to us men to decide whether or not we're allowed to beat you.  So keep silent, woman.

    [obviously a satirical comment]

    Many of the same people who promote corporal punishments of wives would also echo the sentiments above.

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #102 on: October 25, 2017, 02:01:42 PM »
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  • "What if the woman was raped?!!!!!! What if it was your wife, mother, or daughter?!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!"
    This is an irrelevant appeal to emotion.  
    If one believes that the Church has taught that a husband may not use corporal punishment on his wife, one should present arguments to support that position. 

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #103 on: October 25, 2017, 02:03:22 PM »
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  • This is an irrelevant appeal to emotion.  
    Exactly

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #104 on: October 25, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »
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  • You're are not supposed to be arguing with men.  It's up to us men to decide whether or not we're allowed to beat you.  So keep silent, woman.
    :laugh1:
    It's OK; I have my husband's permission to argue on forums.  ;D