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Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
« on: August 29, 2023, 12:58:36 AM »
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  • This was put out by an SSPX media:

    Today at 5PM around 14 priests and 16 Brothers will start their 30-day Ignatian Retreat at St. Bernard Novitiate. Please pray for them that they may have a good and holy retreat.

    Sure, please pray for them. More than half the district priests will spend 30 days away from their priestly duties. But pray especially for the faithful who depend on these (oftentimes already very scarce) Masses. There will be around 500 less Masses in the district in September.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #1 on: August 29, 2023, 01:37:31 AM »
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  • Why is this on Anonymous? It is good for priests to go on retreat too occasionally. The priests need to recharge spiritually before they can recharge the faithful.

    500 masses less in the district? Nonsensical since each priest have to say their own daily masses even during their retreat.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #2 on: August 29, 2023, 03:57:08 AM »
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  • Awesome.  


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #3 on: August 29, 2023, 10:18:36 AM »
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  • This was put out by an SSPX media:

    Today at 5PM around 14 priests and 16 Brothers will start their 30-day Ignatian Retreat at St. Bernard Novitiate. Please pray for them that they may have a good and holy retreat.

    Sure, please pray for them. More than half the district priests will spend 30 days away from their priestly duties. But pray especially for the faithful who depend on these (oftentimes already very scarce) Masses. There will be around 500 less Masses in the district in September.
    Maybe you are forgetting, or are unaware, that the SSPX was founded specifically as a priestly union FOR the sanctification of Priests, not for the distribution of sacraments to the faithful.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #4 on: August 29, 2023, 12:50:34 PM »
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  • Maybe you are forgetting, or are unaware, that the SSPX was founded specifically as a priestly union FOR the sanctification of Priests, not for the distribution of sacraments to the faithful.
    :confused:


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #5 on: August 29, 2023, 12:55:38 PM »
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    +about Lefebvre founded the SSPX specifically for the formation and sanctification of Priests. This is written into the SSPX’s statutes and constitutions and has always been the case. This is why for example, Society priests generally live in priories of 3+ Priests, so they can fulfill this end better. It is particularly important, to this end, that the priests come together, on occasion, for periods of fellowship and retreat. This is not a novelty in the SSPX. 

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #6 on: August 29, 2023, 04:05:53 PM »
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  • We should pray that they leave the SSPX cult.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #7 on: August 29, 2023, 04:14:46 PM »
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  • Maybe you are forgetting, or are unaware, that the SSPX was founded specifically as a priestly union FOR the sanctification of Priests, not for the distribution of sacraments to the faithful.
    So...are they to behave as though cloistered?  Who is then supposed to spread the Gospel, teach and administer sacraments?  The Novus Ordo?  Or are we just to flounder on our own?
    Oh, right, just pay, pray and shut up.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #8 on: August 29, 2023, 10:29:32 PM »
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  • So...are they to behave as though cloistered?  Who is then supposed to spread the Gospel, teach and administer sacraments?  The Novus Ordo?  Or are we just to flounder on our own?
    Oh, right, just pay, pray and shut up.

    Nobody is claiming that they are a cloistered congregation, but the OP is making a big fuss that some of them went for a retreat, and implying that the regular faithful are abandoned. Stop being a sourpuss, as I can see that mass schedules still remains the same mostly with replacement priests filling in during the period while those that aren't on the retreat are saying extra Sunday masses.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #9 on: August 29, 2023, 10:43:01 PM »
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  • This was put out by an SSPX media:

    Today at 5PM around 14 priests and 16 Brothers will start their 30-day Ignatian Retreat at St. Bernard Novitiate. Please pray for them that they may have a good and holy retreat.

    Sure, please pray for them. More than half the district priests will spend 30 days away from their priestly duties. But pray especially for the faithful who depend on these (oftentimes already very scarce) Masses. There will be around 500 less Masses in the district in September.
    So...are they to behave as though cloistered?  Who is then supposed to spread the Gospel, teach and administer sacraments?  The Novus Ordo?  Or are we just to flounder on our own?
    Oh, right, just pay, pray and shut up.

    Dealing with this stupid crap is WHY clergy need the graces that come from a retreat.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #10 on: August 29, 2023, 10:52:13 PM »
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  • This was put out by an SSPX media:

    Today at 5PM around 14 priests and 16 Brothers will start their 30-day Ignatian Retreat at St. Bernard Novitiate. Please pray for them that they may have a good and holy retreat.

    Sure, please pray for them. More than half the district priests will spend 30 days away from their priestly duties. But pray especially for the faithful who depend on these (oftentimes already very scarce) Masses. There will be around 500 less Masses in the district in September.
    I, as the father of a family, go on an (SSPX) Ignatian retreat once every few years. Does my family gripe and complain that im away from work, not earning $, not there to help with the chores…no, they pray for me and are grateful in knowing that, through going on the retreat, I will be spiritually refreshed better able to perform my role as a husband and father.

    Whoever started this thread is a low IQ individual.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #11 on: August 30, 2023, 12:56:34 AM »
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  • How does the SSPX Marriage Tribunal contribute to the sanctification of it's priests?

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #12 on: August 30, 2023, 06:31:49 AM »
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  • This was put out by an SSPX media:

    Today at 5PM around 14 priests and 16 Brothers will start their 30-day Ignatian Retreat at St. Bernard Novitiate. Please pray for them that they may have a good and holy retreat.

    Sure, please pray for them. More than half the district priests will spend 30 days away from their priestly duties. But pray especially for the faithful who depend on these (oftentimes already very scarce) Masses. There will be around 500 less Masses in the district in September.

    Sorry, but this demonstrates again their lack of concern for the good of the faithful.  There's no reason 14 priests and 16 brothers should all go on a 30-day retreat ALL AT THE SAME TIME.  They could stagger them out, 2-4 at a time.  Typically, the time for a 30-day retreat is during one's seminary formation, taking one of the Summers, perhaps the one right before the last year at seminary.

    We have an Independent priest here who, apart from 3 weeks he was out for hip surgery, hadn't missed a single day of Mass and Confessions for the 35 years I've known him.  He's never taken a "vacation" or time off for a retreat.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #13 on: August 30, 2023, 06:34:17 AM »
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  • Why is this on Anonymous? It is good for priests to go on retreat too occasionally. The priests need to recharge spiritually before they can recharge the faithful.

    500 masses less in the district? Nonsensical since each priest have to say their own daily masses even during their retreat.

    Why is your post Anonymous?  500 fewer Masses that the FAITHFUL can attend and benefit from, receive Holy Communion at, etc.  That's absurd.  There's no reason that all these priests have to make the retreat at the same time, and after ordination there really shouldn't be more than 5- or 7-day retreats, except perhaps once every 7 years or so during a Sabbatical year.  They were not ordained to the priesthood for themselves or their spiritual benefit, but only for the good of the faithful.  But that attitude is lost on many priests.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #14 on: August 30, 2023, 06:37:41 AM »
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  • I, as the father of a family, go on an (SSPX) Ignatian retreat once every few years. Does my family gripe and complain that im away from work, not earning $, not there to help with the chores…no, they pray for me and are grateful in knowing that, through going on the retreat, I will be spiritually refreshed better able to perform my role as a husband and father.

    Whoever started this thread is a low IQ individual.

    1) It's only a few days, not 30.  Try to disappear for 30 days and see what happens.
    2) Do you not get paid vacation so that the $ continues coming in?  Either way, it's only a week.
    3) Major problem is not an individual priest taking a 30-day retreat, which I guess would be OK once every few years or so, but in having FOURTEEN priests all doing it at the same time.  There's zero need for that.  Imagine if both you AND your wife decided to disappear for 30 days at the same time?  Who would continue to manage the household and attend to the needs of the children?  Perhaps, if you have a toddler, he can attend to his own needs, make his own meals, go grocery shopping.  Baby can change his own diapers.  Etc.  Just as young children can't feed themselves, the faithful cannot be nourished by the Sacraments without priests around.  If there's a problem with the plumbing, perhaps the kids can see to it.  If all the toilets get backed up, they can just go on the floor.  Similarly, if some dying soul needs Last Rites, he can just hope for the best.  This is inexplicable.

    There's no comparison between one of two parents taking a 5-day retreat and this situation here.