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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:

A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.

I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.

Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."

You may be correct about Robertson in many respects, but if you placed him beside 80% of the Catholic priests I have listened too, I would say Pat Robertson is hitting the mark and more evangelical.

If I were to set the standard for what a priest should be preaching and even how, I would choose Pat Robertson over Pope Francis.

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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:

A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.

I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.

Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."

You may be correct about Robertson in many respects, but if you placed him beside 80% of the Catholic priests I have listened too, I would say Pat Robertson is hitting the mark and more evangelical.

If I were to set the standard for what a priest should be preaching and even how, I would choose Pat Robertson over Pope Francis.

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Is Pat Robertson "hitting the mark" when he blaspehemes Our Lady? How about when he serves the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan with his despicable Zionist brown nosing? When he sends souls down the merry road to hell by telling them that their faith alone has "saved" them, does he "hit the mark" then?

Would you also choose Arius over Pope Francis? How about Martin Luther? Jan Hus? Valentinus the Gnostic? Heck, since the early Modernists were alot more subtle than those for whom they paved the way, how about Mariano Rampolla del Tindaro as the "standard to set?" Do you see how absurd this starts to become?

So instead of the imbicilic futility of picking the "least bad" among heretics as a standard to follow, why not choose from two millennia of Catholic history? Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre? The list literally goes on and on and on. No need to resort to devils to combat devils.

Turn off the heretic TV shows. Pick up some rosary beads and pray to Our Lady, start praying the Divine Office and read as much as you can on the lives of the saints and writings of the Church's many great doctors and theologians... Start praying and reading like a Catholic and before long you will start thinking like one. Lex Orandi, Lex credendi.

Either that, or go down to your local "evangelical" protestant heretic den and apostatize completely. But pick one or the other. Run hot or cold. The Lord vomits the lukewarm from His mouth.

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Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre?

Oh yeah ?- What channel are they on ?

Are you serious? Am I being "trolled?" Are you only willing to give these great men the time of day if they appear in some form on the idiot box?

Their words and the accounts of their holy lives are available in a medium known as "books," which is like television, only smaller, quieter and made of paper. If you're serious about getting some, I (and others here I'm sure) can provide a fairly comprehensive recommended reading list.

There's also a wealth of such material online. Papalencyclicals.net is a great resource, as is New Advent's (if you can get past their terrible name) collection of the Church Fathers: http://home.newadvent.org/fathers/

To get things started, why not read this, the First of St. John Chrysostom's Eight Homilies Against the Jews (a topic unlikely to be broached by a Zionist arsesmoocher like Robertson): http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm

If you want something in video format, look on Youtube for clips of Bishop Fulton Sheen, or Archbishop Lefebvre, or Canon Gregory Hesse (Canon Hesse was a tough talking straight-shooter, God rest his soul, I think you will like him).

If you want to listen to decent sermons by living, breathing good Catholic priests go here: http://www.audiosancto.org

And, while we're at it, you'd be doing yourself a tremendous favor if you just went ahead and threw your TV away.

I did not realize you could commit blasphemy against Our Lady, where does it say that in the Bible ?

That you did not realize this - and that you ask for evidence to support it only from the Bible - is evidence that you have allowed Protestants to have far, far too much sway over your intellect.

Just as God Almighty is glorified in our veneration of His Angels and Saints, so too is He blasphemed when they are spoken of evilly. How much more must this be so when His Blessed Mother - who is higher than all the saints and angels - is spoken of abusively and calumniously?

Read "The Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" by Ludwig Ott.

There is one reason and one reason ONLY I could see a Catholic going evangelical, and that's the conservatism, both doctrinal and social that seems to be missing from the Novus Ordo. However, as much as they stick to traditional values, having the True Faith, which is not the words of a preacher holding a Bible wearing J.Crew, is much more important.

Yes, he might know Scripture like he was born with it in his hand, but in the end, that's irrelevant because Protestant teaching will get you nowhere. As good of people Protestants can be, and I credit them to me reverting to the Faith, their theology is full of holes and flaws. Where is the Baptist preacher without his Bible? Where were any of them in the almost 15 centuries without a Bible in print, in the hands of the laity? They have no Tradition to rest upon. It is not complete. It will leave you searching for answers and getting nothing like an agnostic of sorts. Catholicism is the full realization of Christianity, and hopefully you realize this, crossbro. Protestantism will get you somewhere, but where does that leave you at the end before God?

I think a reason why some one might follow evangelicals is the liveliness of their "services"  I call them happy clappy's. The TV evangelicals preach waving their bibles, singing their songs and asking for money.  This is what I see when I , by accident, serf to one of their TV services.

I for one prefer the solemnity of the TLM.

He's been infected with the Novus Ordo parasite of "all religions are fine". I know how it feels and it sucks. It happened to me as early as late last year. Before I became trad, I was honestly considering going Lutheran or Orthodox. I couldn't take the NO anymore.

He just needs to find a traditional Latin Mass. Accept that you have to make sacrifices to attend. Next diocese over, 3-hour drive, maybe. Do it for the faith.

The "Mass" happened because Dolan is as much of a Catholic as the calumnious non-Christian in Albany, Andrew Cuomo. He doesn't care about the Catholic faith.

I think there are in Philly too