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Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 12:28:30 PM
When my pious, beloved grandfather was a porter at Penn Station in the 1940's and 50's, he used to attend daily Mass at this parish.

Now this is happeneing. St. Pius V, pray for us. May the Lord have His Vengeance.


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http://www.stfrancisnyc.org/2014/06/pre-pride-mass/
 
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
These pseudo masses used to really torment me terribly.  In this case, it's beyond blasphemy to use the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to endorse and honor those who participate in the 'sin that cries out to Heaven for vengeance.'  But a good trad priest told me years ago to try to find consolation in the probability that He is not present in their wafers for many reasons.  I hold onto that to keep from being overwhelmed at such horror as this.   That, and reparation.   Domine, miserere nobis.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 23, 2014, 02:23:23 PM
Another journey into the absurdity by the novus ordo church.

I remember even back in the late 1960's there was a mass at
Catholic University that was so shocking, what went on could
not be published fearing still good Catholics would be drawn
down into the sins of impurity. If any photos, and graphic
description of the mass was published.
Even the Archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Patrick O'Boyle said
that he found about through reading the newspaper.  I do know
if anyone was ever disciplined and expelled.
I believe I was reading about it in the Wanderer. A Catholic weekly
out of St.Paul, Minnesota.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Frances on June 23, 2014, 06:26:41 PM
 :barf:
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
Dolan probably endorses the fag desecration - at the same time attacking a perfectly fine and holy TLM parish in Holy Innocents.

He's lost all respect from me.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
So bad, the Catholic Church has become no different than progressive Protestant denominations. I haven't attended mass since my kids received their first communion (which was a nightmare process) ... I have no where to go for mass. So I stay home , teach my children the faith, homeschool and pray. I went through a long conversion, becoming catholic because of the church's teachings on life (abortion contraception) and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity... Leaving the homo loving episcopal church the year they voted in the homo bishop.  

I have no "home". And honestly I'm fine with that.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 08:31:50 PM
It is the church after Vatican II that allows for this, not the Catholic Church that Christ founded. At this point, they might as well be two different religions. Leave the Novus Ordo and find a nice, conservative Catholic parish that teaches the Faith.

The Catholic Church that Christ founded would not celebrate a fag "pride" pretend-Mass. For something like that to even exist is an event of scandal, shame and an act of horror against the Sacred Heart. Remember, the Gates of Hell will not prevail against it. You'll be in my prayers.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 23, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
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So bad, the Catholic Church has become no different than progressive Protestant denominations. I haven't attended mass since my kids received their first communion (which was a nightmare process) ... I have no where to go for mass. So I stay home , teach my children the faith, homeschool and pray. I went through a long conversion, becoming catholic because of the church's teachings on life (abortion contraception) and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity... Leaving the homo loving episcopal church the year they voted in the homo bishop.  

I have no "home". And honestly I'm fine with that.


You are an inspiration.  God bless you for your faith and courage.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 24, 2014, 07:51:54 AM
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So bad, the Catholic Church has become no different than progressive Protestant denominations. I haven't attended mass since my kids received their first communion (which was a nightmare process) ... I have no where to go for mass. So I stay home , teach my children the faith, homeschool and pray. I went through a long conversion, becoming catholic because of the church's teachings on life (abortion contraception) and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity... Leaving the homo loving episcopal church the year they voted in the homo bishop.  

I have no "home". And honestly I'm fine with that.


I understand your predicament and I feel for you and will pray for you and your family. But I would advise against looking at this lamentable and extraordinary circuмstance we are all in today as anything other than lamentable and extraordinary.

We should not be "fine" living without the Sacraments. Pray that a Catholic priest will soon become available to you and your family. And pray unceasingly for the restoration of the Catholic Church to Her former glorious state.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 24, 2014, 08:09:41 AM
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So bad, the Catholic Church has become no different than progressive Protestant denominations. I haven't attended mass since my kids received their first communion (which was a nightmare process) ... I have no where to go for mass. So I stay home , teach my children the faith, homeschool and pray. I went through a long conversion, becoming catholic because of the church's teachings on life (abortion contraception) and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity... Leaving the homo loving episcopal church the year they voted in the homo bishop.  

I have no "home". And honestly I'm fine with that.


I understand your predicament and I feel for you and will pray for you and your family. But I would advise against looking at this lamentable and extraordinary circuмstance we are all in today as anything other than lamentable and extraordinary.

We should not be "fine" living without the Sacraments. Pray that a Catholic priest will soon become available to you and your family. And pray unceasingly for the restoration of the Catholic Church to Her former glorious state.


I live in a very rural area, but a catholic town founded by German catholics. We have "new age" monasteries. As well as very conservative parishes that have blinders on. I honestly do not know what to do! I've spoken of it a few times here. All the TLM parishes are under the bishop... Now. I'm talking with a friend that  attends a TLM parish that just recently decided to be under the authority of the bishop.  Pray that something becomes of that.

What do you do?  I feel Protestant again. Like, I can not walk through the doors of my parish.

Is anyone willing to talk to me privately? I've been here long enough to private message now. I'd like opinions on a local TLM parish and opinions on what I should do.

I guess that I feel "fine" because I don't have any other choice right now.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 24, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
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So bad, the Catholic Church has become no different than progressive Protestant denominations. I haven't attended mass since my kids received their first communion (which was a nightmare process) ... I have no where to go for mass. So I stay home , teach my children the faith, homeschool and pray. I went through a long conversion, becoming catholic because of the church's teachings on life (abortion contraception) and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity... Leaving the homo loving episcopal church the year they voted in the homo bishop.  

I have no "home". And honestly I'm fine with that.


I understand your predicament and I feel for you and will pray for you and your family. But I would advise against looking at this lamentable and extraordinary circuмstance we are all in today as anything other than lamentable and extraordinary.

We should not be "fine" living without the Sacraments. Pray that a Catholic priest will soon become available to you and your family. And pray unceasingly for the restoration of the Catholic Church to Her former glorious state.


I live in a very rural area, but a catholic town founded by German catholics. We have "new age" monasteries. As well as very conservative parishes that have blinders on. I honestly do not know what to do! I've spoken of it a few times here. All the TLM parishes are under the bishop... Now. I'm talking with a friend that  attends a TLM parish that just recently decided to be under the authority of the bishop.  Pray that something becomes of that.

What do you do?  I feel Protestant again. Like, I can not walk through the doors of my parish.

Is anyone willing to talk to me privately? I've been here long enough to private message now. I'd like opinions on a local TLM parish and opinions on what I should do.

I guess that I feel "fine" because I don't have any other choice right now.


That you, in your words, "feel like a Protestant again" is why I warn against "feeling fine" with living without the Sacraments. "Home alone-ism" is I think an especially precarious state to be in for one who has only recently escaped (by God's Grace) the "alone-isms" of Protestantism.

If you have no access to the SSPX or other groups or independent priests, but you do have access to an FSSP TLM, then go there. FSSP priests are very reliably orthodox (listen to their sermons on Audio Sancto for proof) and questions raised about the validity of their orders are overblown to say the least (see Fr Gregory Hesse on the validity of Novus Ordo orders).

Unless your local TLM is being offered by some modernist heretic deceptively preaching half-truths and soft heresy to the Faithful looking for Tradition (which unfortunately does happen not infrequently) I would go there. Especially if it is FSSP. You will be in safe hands with nearly all FSSP priests.

Otherwise, if you have access to an Eastern Rite Catholic parish, go there. There you can be certain (as long as it's not Maronite) that you are receiving the Sacraments validly and traditionally.

Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: crossbro on June 24, 2014, 11:49:39 PM

I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 25, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
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I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.

Francis doesn't care, and I don't watch the 700 club, hard to tell if you're making fun of me or being serious. Whatever. It's a serious issue.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 25, 2014, 03:18:29 PM
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I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.


So you've traded the heresy of Modernism for the heresy of Protestantism?

Then you're the one with the problem.

When you stand before the Throne of Judgment, "Talk to Francis' will be no defense whatsoever for your having been "happy" to give up the Mass, the Sacraments and the Catholic Faith.

Hell is Hell, by whatever road you get there.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 27, 2014, 09:03:21 AM
I have shared this with all my friends. They just shrug their shoulders. Afraid to speak up. But they'll rant and rave about abortion.  

Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: crossbro on June 28, 2014, 02:33:32 AM
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I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.


So you've traded the heresy of Modernism for the heresy of Protestantism?

Then you're the one with the problem.

When you stand before the Throne of Judgment, "Talk to Francis' will be no defense whatsoever for your having been "happy" to give up the Mass, the Sacraments and the Catholic Faith.

Hell is Hell, by whatever road you get there.


Well, see you at the Throne of Judgment then. My first defense will be "I did not ask to be born."
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 28, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
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Dolan probably endorses the fag desecration - at the same time attacking a perfectly fine and holy TLM parish in Holy Innocents.

He's lost all respect from me.


The Laughing Cardinal.  He will be laughing all the way to hell.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 28, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
Having very limited access to the Sacraments is on the shoulders of the Priest.
It is the priests responsibility to seek out and administer the sacraments to the flock God has placed in his care.  A person can only attempt as reasonable an effort.  Waiting for our Resistance Priest to come every 4-6 weeks is sufficient for me and has actually strengthened my reserve to increase my efforts to stay in the state of grace since I only go to confession then.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 29, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
I wonder if Poche will open his eyes to the selective enforcement someday.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on June 29, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
 :barf:
Today marks the 45th grand sodomy parade in NYC.  I'm staying in my apartment with shades drawn.  If my pervert downstairs neighbors throw a party, my plan is to turn up the AC and blast Gregorian chants so I needn't hear them.  The one thing I can count in their favor is that they outright admit to hating the Church and Jesus Christ, and will not be attending a "mass" celebrating sodomy.  Better overt evil than hypocrisy and blasphemy.  
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Phyllo on June 29, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
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Dolan probably endorses the fag desecration - at the same time attacking a perfectly fine and holy TLM parish in Holy Innocents.

He's lost all respect from me.


The Laughing Cardinal.  He will be laughing all the way to hell.


And to think that it is our donations that allow him to live high on the hog.

You would think that he would preach against sodomy instead of participating in one of their so called masses.    

God help the cardinal
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Memorare on June 30, 2014, 06:06:57 AM
Tell them what you think!

https://m.facebook.com/stfrancisnyc/photos/a.192975007413046.41108.176186425758571/769857819724759/?type=1
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: JezusDeKoning on July 01, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
Oh, I'd get banned from facebook if I gave my two cents to that sordid community of worms.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: OHCA on July 08, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
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I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.


Would a faithful Catholic or a "fake" Catholic be more apt to boast about his daily dose of the heretical 700 Club?
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 08, 2014, 11:06:41 PM
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Quote from: crossbro

I am a home alonist too, happy to give up the Mass and the sacraments for a daily dose of the 700 Club.

Problem ?

Talk to francis.


Would a faithful Catholic or a "fake" Catholic be more apt to boast about his daily dose of the heretical 700 Club?


What is 700 Club?  :thinking:
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: OHCA on July 08, 2014, 11:13:45 PM
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:barf:
Today marks the 45th grand sodomy parade in NYC.  I'm staying in my apartment with shades drawn.  If my pervert downstairs neighbors throw a party, my plan is to turn up the AC and blast Gregorian chants so I needn't hear them.  The one thing I can count in their favor is that they outright admit to hating the Church and Jesus Christ, and will not be attending a "mass" celebrating sodomy.  Better overt evil than hypocrisy and blasphemy.  


They've been parading fαɢɢօtry for 45 years in NYC?!?!

That's more than twice as long as I would have guessed.  It is just now starting to "mainstream" in my part of the country.  I can feel it avalanching though.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: OHCA on July 08, 2014, 11:19:03 PM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 08, 2014, 11:56:35 PM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.


I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2014, 09:33:51 AM
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:barf:
Today marks the 45th grand sodomy parade in NYC.  I'm staying in my apartment with shades drawn.  If my pervert downstairs neighbors throw a party, my plan is to turn up the AC and blast Gregorian chants so I needn't hear them.  The one thing I can count in their favor is that they outright admit to hating the Church and Jesus Christ, and will not be attending a "mass" celebrating sodomy.  Better overt evil than hypocrisy and blasphemy.  


They've been parading fαɢɢօtry for 45 years in NYC?!?!

That's more than twice as long as I would have guessed.  It is just now starting to "mainstream" in my part of the country.  I can feel it avalanching though.


Yes. They hold their parade in celebration of the fag riot that took place on June 28, 1969 when the NYPD moved in to raid the Stonewall Inn, a "gαy" bar in the Chelsea neighborhood of Manhattan.  By the early 1970s, being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ was considered trendy.  Disco music as opposed to rock, was the preferred genre in their numerous bars and clubs.  
In 1971-1978, middle school through high school, I had many young ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and a few lesbians for teachers.  They infiltrated the public school system by starting at the top, the NYC DOE.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2014, 02:33:43 PM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.


I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.


Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."

Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2014, 02:37:10 PM
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By the early 1970s, being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ was considered trendy.  Disco music as opposed to rock, was the preferred genre in their numerous bars and clubs.  
 


Rock and roll is no less degenerate than disco.

Remember Freddie Mercury? David Bowie? Elton John?
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.


I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.


Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."



You may be correct about Robertson in many respects, but if you placed him beside 80% of the Catholic priests I have listened too, I would say Pat Robertson is hitting the mark and more evangelical.

If I were to set the standard for what a priest should be preaching and even how, I would choose Pat Robertson over Pope Francis.

frm crossbro
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 09, 2014, 11:55:07 PM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.


I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.


Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."


You may be correct about Robertson in many respects, but if you placed him beside 80% of the Catholic priests I have listened too, I would say Pat Robertson is hitting the mark and more evangelical.

If I were to set the standard for what a priest should be preaching and even how, I would choose Pat Robertson over Pope Francis.

frm crossbro


They're both headed for hell themselves and leading millions there with them.  Neither of them represents anything more than the devil's scam to lure souls to hell.  Protestantism is Lucifer's gem, and is an insult to the Body & Blood and to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

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I tried to edit to not be anonymous, but couldn't do so.

--OHCA
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 08:04:58 AM
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What is 700 Club?  :thinking:


A television program featuring heretical evangelical protestant preacher Pat Robertson.


I had to read that twice to figure out you were not referring to Pope Francis.

At least Pat Robertson is more Christian than francis.


Pat Robertson is a prod heretic who denies the necessity of the Sacraments, the Real Presence of Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, and blasphemes Our Lady by calling her an ordinary sinner.

I'm sick to death of the stupid tactic of lambasting modernists by praising Protestants. What modernist errors the Protestants lack they more than make up for with the above mentioned (and a thousand other) damnable heresies and false doctrines.

If I wish to criticize Dolan or Mahony and their ilk, I need only repeat their heretical words or describe their scandalous actions, I certainly don't need to praise Martin Luther or John Calvin or Arius or Nestorius to make my point, do I? Doing so would probably undermine my point, wouldn't it?

So Pat Robertson has never said "Who am I to judge" with regards to sodomites. So what? Neither did Judas Iscariot. Would you like to heap praise his way too?

Protestantism leads souls to hell as verily as modernism does. Enough with this retarded game of "pick your favorite heretic."



You may be correct about Robertson in many respects, but if you placed him beside 80% of the Catholic priests I have listened too, I would say Pat Robertson is hitting the mark and more evangelical.

If I were to set the standard for what a priest should be preaching and even how, I would choose Pat Robertson over Pope Francis.

frm crossbro


Is Pat Robertson "hitting the mark" when he blaspehemes Our Lady? How about when he serves the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan with his despicable Zionist brown nosing? When he sends souls down the merry road to hell by telling them that their faith alone has "saved" them, does he "hit the mark" then?

Would you also choose Arius over Pope Francis? How about Martin Luther? Jan Hus? Valentinus the Gnostic? Heck, since the early Modernists were alot more subtle than those for whom they paved the way, how about Mariano Rampolla del Tindaro as the "standard to set?" Do you see how absurd this starts to become?

So instead of the imbicilic futility of picking the "least bad" among heretics as a standard to follow, why not choose from two millennia of Catholic history? Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre? The list literally goes on and on and on. No need to resort to devils to combat devils.

Turn off the heretic TV shows. Pick up some rosary beads and pray to Our Lady, start praying the Divine Office and read as much as you can on the lives of the saints and writings of the Church's many great doctors and theologians... Start praying and reading like a Catholic and before long you will start thinking like one. Lex Orandi, Lex credendi.

Either that, or go down to your local "evangelical" protestant heretic den and apostatize completely. But pick one or the other. Run hot or cold. The Lord vomits the lukewarm from His mouth.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
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Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre?


Oh yeah ?- What channel are they on ?

I did not realize you could commit blasphemy against Our Lady, where does it say that in the Bible ?
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Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
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Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre?


Oh yeah ?- What channel are they on ?



Are you serious? Am I being "trolled?" Are you only willing to give these great men the time of day if they appear in some form on the idiot box?

Their words and the accounts of their holy lives are available in a medium known as "books," which is like television, only smaller, quieter and made of paper. If you're serious about getting some, I (and others here I'm sure) can provide a fairly comprehensive recommended reading list.

There's also a wealth of such material online. Papalencyclicals.net is a great resource, as is New Advent's (if you can get past their terrible name) collection of the Church Fathers: http://home.newadvent.org/fathers/

To get things started, why not read this, the First of St. John Chrysostom's Eight Homilies Against the Jews (a topic unlikely to be broached by a Zionist arsesmoocher like Robertson): http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm

If you want something in video format, look on Youtube for clips of Bishop Fulton Sheen, or Archbishop Lefebvre, or Canon Gregory Hesse (Canon Hesse was a tough talking straight-shooter, God rest his soul, I think you will like him).

If you want to listen to decent sermons by living, breathing good Catholic priests go here: http://www.audiosancto.org

And, while we're at it, you'd be doing yourself a tremendous favor if you just went ahead and threw your TV away.

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I did not realize you could commit blasphemy against Our Lady, where does it say that in the Bible ?


That you did not realize this - and that you ask for evidence to support it only from the Bible - is evidence that you have allowed Protestants to have far, far too much sway over your intellect.

Just as God Almighty is glorified in our veneration of His Angels and Saints, so too is He blasphemed when they are spoken of evilly. How much more must this be so when His Blessed Mother - who is higher than all the saints and angels - is spoken of abusively and calumniously?

Read "The Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" by Ludwig Ott.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
There is one reason and one reason ONLY I could see a Catholic going evangelical, and that's the conservatism, both doctrinal and social that seems to be missing from the Novus Ordo. However, as much as they stick to traditional values, having the True Faith, which is not the words of a preacher holding a Bible wearing J.Crew, is much more important.

Yes, he might know Scripture like he was born with it in his hand, but in the end, that's irrelevant because Protestant teaching will get you nowhere. As good of people Protestants can be, and I credit them to me reverting to the Faith, their theology is full of holes and flaws. Where is the Baptist preacher without his Bible? Where were any of them in the almost 15 centuries without a Bible in print, in the hands of the laity? They have no Tradition to rest upon. It is not complete. It will leave you searching for answers and getting nothing like an agnostic of sorts. Catholicism is the full realization of Christianity, and hopefully you realize this, crossbro. Protestantism will get you somewhere, but where does that leave you at the end before God?
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Post by: Phyllo on July 10, 2014, 06:34:19 PM
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There is one reason and one reason ONLY I could see a Catholic going evangelical, and that's the conservatism, both doctrinal and social that seems to be missing from the Novus Ordo. However, as much as they stick to traditional values, having the True Faith, which is not the words of a preacher holding a Bible wearing J.Crew, is much more important.

Yes, he might know Scripture like he was born with it in his hand, but in the end, that's irrelevant because Protestant teaching will get you nowhere. As good of people Protestants can be, and I credit them to me reverting to the Faith, their theology is full of holes and flaws. Where is the Baptist preacher without his Bible? Where were any of them in the almost 15 centuries without a Bible in print, in the hands of the laity? They have no Tradition to rest upon. It is not complete. It will leave you searching for answers and getting nothing like an agnostic of sorts. Catholicism is the full realization of Christianity, and hopefully you realize this, crossbro. Protestantism will get you somewhere, but where does that leave you at the end before God?


I think a reason why some one might follow evangelicals is the liveliness of their "services"  I call them happy clappy's. The TV evangelicals preach waving their bibles, singing their songs and asking for money.  This is what I see when I , by accident, serf to one of their TV services.

I for one prefer the solemnity of the TLM.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 07:54:43 PM
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Why not look to St John Chrysostom? St Augustine? St Thomas Aquinas? Pope St Leo the Great? Cardinal Tomas de Torquemada? St Francis Xavier? Girolamo Savonarola? St John Vianney? Pope St Pius V? Pope St Pius X? Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre?


Oh yeah ?- What channel are they on ?

I did not realize you could commit blasphemy against Our Lady, where does it say that in the Bible ?


You can't possibly be Catholic, novus ordo OR traditional.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
He's been infected with the Novus Ordo parasite of "all religions are fine". I know how it feels and it sucks. It happened to me as early as late last year. Before I became trad, I was honestly considering going Lutheran or Orthodox. I couldn't take the NO anymore.

He just needs to find a traditional Latin Mass. Accept that you have to make sacrifices to attend. Next diocese over, 3-hour drive, maybe. Do it for the faith.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 09:37:29 PM
They planning this all along.  Especially since gαy marriage is passed.
sɛҳuąƖ abuse by clergy, church closings, real estate scandals and lavender mob, liberal mass
Guitars is why we left.  If we couldn't stay.  We then went to sedevacantist church that didn't work out.  We have been going to sspx.  
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 10, 2014, 10:44:35 PM
The "Mass" happened because Dolan is as much of a Catholic as the calumnious non-Christian in Albany, Andrew Cuomo. He doesn't care about the Catholic faith.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Phyllo on July 11, 2014, 05:43:42 AM
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The "Mass" happened because Dolan is as much of a Catholic as the calumnious non-Christian in Albany, Andrew Cuomo. He doesn't care about the Catholic faith.


It is great to come across people that have the same opinions  I have.  And there is a place where we can voice those opinions.  Too bad we can't VOTE these higher clergy out of office like we can politicians because these clergy are as much a politician as any one in civil government.

God help His church.
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 13, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
I think there are in Philly too
Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 13, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
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The "Mass" happened because Dolan is as much of a Catholic as the calumnious non-Christian in Albany, Andrew Cuomo. He doesn't care about the Catholic faith.


It is great to come across people that have the same opinions  I have.  And there is a place where we can voice those opinions.  Too bad we can't VOTE these higher clergy out of office like we can politicians because these clergy are as much a politician as any one in civil government.

God help His church.


You are so right about politicians and clergy.  

Dolan praised a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ athlete for coming out if the closet.

Title: NYC Parish to Offer Mass in Celebration of Sodomy
Post by: Änσnymσus on July 15, 2014, 08:09:22 AM
Really? Wow, he might actually be worse than Nancy Peℓσѕι in thinking they are Catholic. Dolan may have already joined that motley crew of vile, calumnious non-Christians that mislabel themselves as Catholic in order to possibly save face with voters. Nancy Peℓσѕι, Andrew Cuomo and every "Catholic" Democrat is in this group.