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Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2020, 05:32:35 PM »
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  • The OP is between a rock and a hard place, because if everything he/she said were true, he/she would be guilty of detraction (and considering the subjects of the detraction are priests, it would probably constitute grave matter).

    But if what the OP has reported is not accurate, then the priests are calumniated in a serious matter.

    The saving grace of the thread has been the revelation of the pipe/tobacco website.
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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #46 on: January 16, 2020, 05:35:48 PM »
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  • This whole conversation is rather silly. What business is it of yours what they consume? Besides, if you're worried about the expense, I wouldn't necessarily assume the parish is paying for all of that stuff. It's quite possible the rectory provides the priests with some moderately-priced wine, and then expects them to pay out of their own pocket if they want 100-year-old scotch. And if priests want to spend their Mass and baptism stipends on a nice bottle of vintage port, what is that to you? I remember something about casting a speck out of someone else's eye.


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  • The one that is a snowbird that even admits he’s only been to Sanford once is the poster quoted.  He copies and pastes from the internet and thinks he knows Florida.

    Really, now?  It's plenty obvious to me that whoever is the "Anonymous" whom I quoted immediately above is full of manure.  The "poster quoted" is actually none other than AlligatorDicax (who is also the author of this posting): An at-least-4th-generation native Floridan[*], who was baptized into the Roman Catholic faith as an infant in Florida.


    The OP has lived in Florida for well over 50 years.

    Sooo, you've "lived" in Florida for "well over 50 years"?  Uh, huh,  Well, 50 years ago, I had already graduated from the parochial school in Orlando, then 1 of what might be called the traditional high schools in Orlando.  And I had been serving Mass for several years at the Catholic church that's now the regrettably Novus Ordo cathedral in Orlando.

    This  "Anonymous" subforum, which accomodates anonymous posters of obviously unknowable degrees of honesty or deception, really ought to be plowed under by Matthew.

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    Note *: "At least".  Or even more generations, depending on the path followed for counting ancestor generations; I do need to review my family's genealogy files.

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #48 on: January 16, 2020, 11:37:34 PM »
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  • Many years ago when I was a child the county where I live was a dry county. There was an event at the Catholic church where beer was served. A Protestant who was at the event took out her bible and said something to the priest about how drinking alcohol was some kind of a sin. The priest replied by saying something very undiplomatic.
    I believe that played a part in me being in trouble in school later that year.

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #49 on: January 17, 2020, 06:09:43 AM »
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  • It's hot in Florida and they get thirsty too, what seems to be the problem?


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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #50 on: January 17, 2020, 05:49:49 PM »
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  • Wine is a staple every day (bar Friday) at our home. Just as well we purchase it by the cask (except when we have invited guests) and can easily hide the fact, otherwise "what would the neighbours say" :confused:
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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #51 on: January 19, 2020, 10:28:49 AM »
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  • Some years ago one of my sisters went off to college. She was paired with a room mate who hated Catholics. She harassed my sister about her Catholicity and how she should be going to the appropriate Protestant church/chapel. In order to manifest her Catholicity a bit more my sister got two things to show off her religious belief, a statue of the Blessed Virgin with a rosary on the table next to her bed and a large plaque on the wall that said Budweiser.
    I love this!

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #52 on: January 19, 2020, 05:59:06 PM »
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  • Wine is a staple every day (bar Friday) at our home
    Whoa, you drink every day and go to the bar on Friday too??! Can I come over for dinner? :jester:


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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #53 on: January 19, 2020, 06:20:10 PM »
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  • Some years ago one of my sisters went off to college. She was paired with a room mate who hated Catholics. She harassed my sister about her Catholicity and how she should be going to the appropriate Protestant church/chapel. In order to manifest her Catholicity a bit more my sister got two things to show off her religious belief, a statue of the Blessed Virgin with a rosary on the table next to her bed and a large plaque on the wall that said Budweiser.
    Your sister is to be commended for displaying a statue of the Blessed Mother and a rosary,  I hope that she used the rosary and not just  displayed it. On the other hand, her placing a plaque of a beer company is nothing to be commended about. Your sister was a young girl in college, I hope she was not going to bars and drinking in mixed  company. Alcohol lowers a womans inhibitions and when you combine that with men drinking it spells jumping into a near occasion of sin.  I’ve seen it even among married women, drinks and men of the opposite sex is a bad formula that leads many times to adultery. I’ve seen it over and over again even among traditionalist.

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #54 on: January 19, 2020, 11:28:21 PM »
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  • Your sister is to be commended for displaying a statue of the Blessed Mother and a rosary,  I hope that she used the rosary and not just  displayed it. On the other hand, her placing a plaque of a beer company is nothing to be commended about. Your sister was a young girl in college, I hope she was not going to bars and drinking in mixed  company. Alcohol lowers a womans inhibitions and when you combine that with men drinking it spells jumping into a near occasion of sin.  I’ve seen it even among married women, drinks and men of the opposite sex is a bad formula that leads many times to adultery. I’ve seen it over and over again even among traditionalist.
    I think she did this to get a reaction out of her Protestant room mate who harassed about being Catholic.

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #55 on: January 20, 2020, 10:42:01 AM »
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  • On the other hand, her placing a plaque of a beer company is nothing to be commended about.


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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #56 on: January 20, 2020, 10:42:46 AM »
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  • I think she did this to get a reaction out of her Protestant room mate who harassed about being Catholic.

    I didn't think about that until you mentioned it.  Thanks!!!!!!!!

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    « Reply #57 on: January 20, 2020, 11:11:41 AM »
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  • I didn't think about that until you mentioned it.  Thanks!!!!!!!!
    Someone is trying to be funny by posting an answer for me. I did not write that answer.
     
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    Your sister is to be commended for displaying a statue of the Blessed Mother and a rosary,  I hope that she used the rosary and not just  displayed it. On the other hand, her placing a plaque of a beer company is nothing to be commended about. Your sister was a young girl in college, I hope she was not going to bars and drinking in mixed  company. Alcohol lowers a womans inhibitions and when you combine that with men drinking it spells jumping into a near occasion of sin.  I’ve seen it even among married women, drinks and men of the opposite sex is a bad formula that leads many times to adultery. I’ve seen it over and over again even among traditionalist.


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    Poche wrote: I think she did this to get a reaction out of her Protestant room mate who harassed about being Catholic.

    My response: That that may have been reason she might of hung up the plaque was understood by me the writer of the above quote. That does not change what I wrote, for her actions and motives may not have not been Catholic for posting a plaque of a beer company.  The Protestant may have been more Catholic in not  going to bars and a good example, while the sister may have been a bad example by going to bars and idolizing it as a good recreation by posting a plaque.
     
    I didn't think about that until you mentioned it.  Thanks!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Non-Catholics Scandalized by Excessive Drinking at SSPX Sanford Priory
    « Reply #58 on: January 20, 2020, 11:20:07 AM »
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  • Someone is trying to be funny by posting an answer for me. I did not write that answer.
     
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    My response: That that may have been reason she might of hung up the plaque was understood by me the writer of the above quote. That does not change what I wrote, for her actions and motives may not have not been Catholic for posting a plaque of a beer company.  The Protestant may have been more Catholic in not  going to bars and a good example, while the sister may have been a bad example by going to bars and idolizing it as a good recreation by posting a plaque.
     
    I didn't think about that until you mentioned it.  Thanks!!!!!!!!
    There, that is better. That was a mistake at the end.

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  • This whole conversation is rather silly.  What business is it of yours what they consume? Besides, if you're worried about the expense, I wouldn't necessarily assume the parish is paying for all of that stuff. [....] And if priests want to spend their Mass and baptism stipends [*] on a nice bottle of vintage port, what is that to you?  I remember something about casting a speck out of someone else's eye.

    Indeed.  I recall the customary honorarium [*] for a wedding Mass being substantial, and certainly enough money for a fifth of good-quality distilled spirits.  Even if the best man stiffed the altar boys who'd served the Mass, the priest had received enough to kick back some cash to them.

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    Note *: There's an important difference between the 2 terms: The amount of a stipend is known--if not actually agreed--in advance (so it can be take-it-or-leave-it), e.g., a "grad-student stipend"; whereas an honorarium is not agreed upon, being a gift of gratitude or appreciation, as seems to be required by Counterreformation decrees of the Council of Trent, and later compiled into traditional Canon Law.  I can't claim to know which term fits SSPX.