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Änσnymσus

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Nervous re 1st Pre-1955 Holy Week
« on: March 27, 2019, 08:06:03 AM »
I have been studying lots about the old Holy Week before Pius XII reforms, and would like to attend this year.

Problem is that I have not resolved the issues about morality of attending non una cuм Masses by priests who reject Francis as Pope.

Please don’t turn this thread into a debate about pro v anti seed.  I started it because I have a moral dilemma:

If I believe Francis is Pope, can I attend the Triduum at an SSPV church without sinning?  Please explain why yes or no.

I really would like to go, but am scared I would sin if I attend a Mass by one not in communion with Francis, however unholy he may be.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Nervous re 1st Pre-1955 Holy Week
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2019, 08:45:30 AM »
Nobody can resolve this question for you, since it's highly disputed among Traditional Catholics.  Even the radical Dimonds don't think the "una cuм" phrase has as much significance as people want to give it, and they'll go to una cuм Masses to receive the Sacraments.  Others think that it's a very big deal.

But IMO there's objective doubt about the question, so if you're a probabilist (e.g., such as the school of St. Alphonsus), you may act on the (very real) probability that it would be OK and not offend God.
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Re: Nervous re 1st Pre-1955 Holy Week
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2019, 02:06:18 PM »
I had the same dilemma.  Which Mass is True?  I asked a Redemptorist priest.  I thought I would get an answer.  He said to me, when you find out let me know.

I was disappointed.  But I decided to go to Our Lady, since she was there with Her Son at His Crucifixion.  I also decided to look upon the picture of the apparition of Sr. Lucia in 1927.  I understood it was part of the 3rd Secret.  I also told Mary that I believe that we are all different, and need to be approached by Her in different ways to help us.

So, I looked at this picture and I saw Mary standing at the Cross.  My soul said, this is the Sacrifice of the Mass.  Then my soul said, Our Lady can only stand by Truth, only one Mass can be true.  

So, when you find the True Mass, you will also be able to stand as Our Lady did.  Firm and convicted of the Truth.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Nervous re 1st Pre-1955 Holy Week
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2019, 02:44:12 PM »
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If I believe Francis is Pope, can I attend the Triduum at an SSPV church without sinning?  Please explain why yes or no.
In the Middle Ages, there was a time where there were 3 different people who claimed to be pope.  It was a highly confusing and chaotic time.  The Church ended up canonizing saints who were on all 3 sides of the debate.  The moral of the story is that it is not the job of the laity to know who is or isn't pope, if there is a huge crisis and confusion about the issue.
As long as you attend a mass by a valid priest, and that mass is legal and moral, then you do not sin.  Masses said by the SSPV are valid, legal and moral, therefore you can attend these, if you wish.
This is how I view the confusion.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Nervous re 1st Pre-1955 Holy Week
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2019, 03:18:51 PM »
I agree completely with Pax.  It's such a confusing time that I don't believe God will punish someone who acts on a doubtful conscience.  I usually attend "una cuм" Mass but will on occasion go non-una-cuм.  I don't like the spirit at most SV chapels, so I don't frequent them, but have gone on occasion with great spiritual benefit.  I do really like Father William Jenkins but not most of the other SSPV priests that I know.  To throw a wrench in the works, some people do question the Mendez ordinations and consecration ... but I don't.  I also do not doubt the validity of many Thuc lines ... even though SSPV does.  I find that inconsistent because nearly all of the same complaints they have about Thuc apply to Mendez equally.
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