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Quote from: Croixalist

Now that he's playing the repentant gαy victim card, he's virtually invulnerable to traditionalist fire... until you look at the circuмstances that is.

Hmmm.  I've gotta be honest.  I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt today.  I mean...I've got to be able to believe that someone can come from that kind of a lifestyle and successfully repent.  

However, I also ask myself: "Laramie, when have you ever seen someone do 'Life' right?  When have you ever seen someone come through and be a true blue successful genuine article?  Once?"

Croixalist, you got me thinking on this.  Your supposition is possible.   But I'd also like to think Voris' stated repentance is possible.  

This is not a closed book.  Not for me.

You keep reading in the dark like that and you'll go blind.

It doesn't matter how many times he's lied before, only that he promises that he's telling the truth now. Am I right? I'm not saying a man cannot come back from being an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, I'm saying that Voris is an undisputed liar and a severe liability for tradition.

Imagine if he really were converted from being "gαy" after 20 or so years, wouldn't that be the biggest story of his life? What would his prayerlife be like? How would he deal with the inevitable demonic attacks, temptations, and plain old memories plaguing his waking hours? What saints did he pray to? Tell me he lost all his gαy friends and gained all new traditional Catholic ones over 2 years! Such an individual might truly have been helpful in that capacity, but common sense says they'd have absolutely no place as a full time Catholic news presenter/commentator. He was only 4 years removed from the height of the publicized Church sex scandals and two years away from what must have been a greater miracle than St. Augustine's conversion!

None of what he claims for himself is falsifiable. Is there even a picture of him out there that's older than 2006?

Here's a quick quiz:

gαy man gone Catholic or gαy man gone clubbing?



Open shirt down to mid chest, no t-shirt. Oozing repentance! St. Benedict approves?

Question 2:

Which one of these men worked under Voris and produces new-agey pics of women wearing church veils as well as assorted pornographic images?

You keep reading in the dark like that and you'll go blind.

It doesn't matter how many times he's lied before, only that he promises that he's telling the truth now. Am I right? I'm not saying a man cannot come back from being an active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, I'm saying that Voris is an undisputed liar and a severe liability for tradition.

Okay, Croixalist, listen up.  Here's what I want you to do.  

My blog post (the one that's on page 1 of this thread) is generating high traffic right now.  I want you to go on there, to that post, and I want you to post what you're stating right here on Cathinfo.  

This will generate the attention of r-selected types--the go-along-get-along Catholics who are trapped in confirmation bias.  They will see what you have to say, and you will be sharing this message with a lot of people out there.  Do this right away.  

It is possible that we might see someone else come along with these suspicions, and that they've been waiting to hear it from someone else.  Or, perhaps someone will come along and help you to flush out your thoughts on this matter.  Either way, I'd like to see how what you say here stands up to a lot of non-Cathinfo traffic.  

In fact, direct people to this very thread, and we can perhaps pull some new traffic to Cathinfo this week.  I'm sure Matthew would like that.

Perhaps sharing this with a larger audience will spark something unexpected?  Just a thought.  But I encourage you to give it a try.  

I'd start a new post about this topic, but the main viral traffic is going to this specific post that I've already put out there.

http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2016/04/i-support-michael-voris-today.html


In the meantime--again--I'm open to more discussion about this.  That Voris is some kind of a gαy shill who's playing Traditionalists this entire time.  If I see more of this kind of talk, I will be further intrigued and compelled to distrust him.  In which case, I'll spread the word if that happens.