It's literally just jews and the feminist goys pushing for age gap hysteria, the recent epistien and diddy stuff is only making it worse.

Amen brother. Please Matthew, stop the abuse of Anyonymous.

It was a woman talking there. Clearly.

Do you think there is a correlation between the expectations of young men going down (ie longer schooling and less focused on learning a trade starting at age 14) and  the marrying age going up?

In current society we keep young men dependent until they are in their 20s.  Is this hurting young men?

Consider the achievements of great men

Octavian (20), Alexander the Great (18), Hannibal Barca (26), and Napoleon (24)

Modern society is holding back men by a wide margin. It's not normal to have to wait to be 30+ to have a wife, family and home...

I see lots of grifters online saying men peak in their 30/40s, this is pure bull crap. Here is a great post from someone

Physical and material achievements are all that matters to you clearly.
So much for having wisdom, shaped by experience and using it to guide the rest of the family. So much for St. Joseph who gave us that example.
If you are a man, you are truly a disgusting one.
If you are a woman, you are a bitter one, and I pity the men in your life.

Physical and material achievements are all that matters to you clearly.
So much for having wisdom, shaped by experience and using it to guide the rest of the family. So much for St. Joseph who gave us that example.
If you are a man, you are truly a disgusting one.
If you are a woman, you are a bitter one, and I pity the men in your life.

It's not all that matters, i never said such. You are clearly coping. The fact is both men and women are moved by physical attraction. I would also think that men in the past in their 20s were more wise and experienced than most men today regardless of their age. The modern world has people brain dead from the тαℓмυd vision and they do not let God guide them.

There is also the biological reality of having healthy children. Most ideal is the age range I mentioned
17-22 females
17-27 males

It's not the only thing that matters but it can't be ignored.

I can’t think of any couple, female 17-22, male, 17-27, who are ready without substantial financial backing from their parents or an ethnic/religious community to get married and start their family.  The only ones I know of are Amish or Hasidic Jєωιѕн.
That’s just my personal experience.
At present, I know of three “traditional” Catholics who married young, had one to four babies, and two of the women and one of the men were abandoned, left to raise the child(ren) on their own or have had to move back home with parent(s). The grandparent(s) are raising and homeschooling while Mom or Dad is at work.
I’m supporting or refuting using average or median statistics as to when Catholics ought to marry. I’m just sharing my personal observations.

Thanks for your input. It's always been normal for parents to help out their children, it's just modern usury and money printing has really destroyed the economy.

As for your examples it's very sad to hear. The age mentioned in the thread is the ideal based off biology and history. Catholics ought to marry the right person later rather than the wrong person earlier. However the right person earlier is still the better option.

It's not all that matters, i never said such. You are clearly coping. The fact is both men and women are moved by physical attraction. I would also think that men in the past in their 20s were more wise and experienced than most men today regardless of their age. The modern world has people brain dead from the тαℓмυd vision and they do not let God guide them.

There is also the biological reality of having healthy children. Most ideal is the age range I mentioned
17-22 females
17-27 males

It's not the only thing that matters but it can't be ignored.

I dont really believe you. Because you can claim all you want that its not all that matters, however your emphasis is so so strong that it begs the question of how sincere you are, and how much respect you actually have for a man who has lived a life. Even if single.

I think you confirm this suspicion of mine by hand waving away modern men past their twenties, even if traditional. Truth is, that a traditional single man who has stayed chaste and wise in this crazy world will earn far more reward for his efforts than a man in the past. Because the challenges are greater. So, as Christians, we should have even greater honor and respect for such a man as his reward and wisdom will be greater.

 Instead, the prevailing idea now is a perverse one which seeks to elevate youth, and attempts to rope men into marrying young, where they are probably doing just fine. I suspect that this comes from a desire to seek men who are more easy to manipulate by the wife or mother in law, (or boomer father), rather than a man post 30s who is less likely to be moved by fear or manipulation.

But hey! Feel free to try to prove me wrong...