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Änσnymσus

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Historical marriage age for men
« on: July 14, 2025, 05:09:03 AM »
There was a post a while ago showing that women commonly married in their teens in the past, with 90% of girls who married married by 19 in Europe before the protestant revolt, and that number increasing to 20-25 by the year 2000, and from there again to 25-35. But what about men?

Pre-Christian Europe (500 BC–AD 300)
Mean: 20–35 (Roman elite ~25–40, Greek ~25–35, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%, rare).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

Early Christian Europe (AD 300–1000)

Mean: 20–30 (elite ~25–40, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

 Medieval Europe (1000–1500)

Mean: Nobles 20–30, commoners 20–25 (~22–27).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 1% each (5%, young nobles).
17–18: 5% each (10%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 4% each (20%).
31–40: 0.2% each (2%).


Early Modern Europe (1500–1800)
Mean: 25–35 (~27–30, Western Europe; ~22–27 Southern Europe).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 3% each (12%).
21–25: 8% each (40%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–40: 0.6% each (6%).

Modern Era (1800–1900)

Mean: 25–30 (~25–28).
12–40 Breakdown:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

 Contemporary Era (1900–2025)

Mean: 25–30 (1900–1950, ~25–28), 30–35 (2000–2025, ~32, Eurostat 2023).
12–40 Breakdown:1900–1950:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

2000–2025:12–20: <0.5% each (<3%).
21–25: 3% each (15%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–35: 10% each (50%).
36–40: 2% each (10%).

Now for graphs to make it easier to read






1. Pre-1500 (500 BC–1500)
Saints: Peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting noblemen (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (~50%), common for nobles and commoners.
Note: Saints align with European norms, but 12–16 is slightly higher due to rare political marriages.

2. Early Modern (1500–1800)
Saints: Still peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting pre-1500 bias.
Europeans: Shift to 21–30 (~80%), as WEMP delayed marriages.
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are outdated; European men marry later.

3. Modern (1800–1900)
Saints: Anachronistic, stuck at 21–25 (30%) due to pre-1800 data.
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with 26–30 rising (30%).
Note: Saints’ data misaligns with rising ages.

4. Contemporary (1900–2025)
Saints: Irrelevant, reflecting pre-1900 norms (21–25 peak).
Europeans: 1900–1950 peaks at 21–25 (50%); 2000–2025 at 31–35 (50%).
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are obsolete; European men shift to 26–35.

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Key Observations
Pre-1500:Saints: ~60% at 21–30 (30% 21–25, 25% 26–30), aligning with European men (20–30, ~75%). Early marriages (12–16, 5%) are rare but match young nobles (e.g., Bolesław V).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with nobles often older (25–40).

Post-1500 Divergence:
1500–1800: Saints’ 21–25 (30%) and 26–30 (25%) lag behind European shift to 26–30 (~40%), as WEMP delayed marriages for economic independence (mean ~27–30).
1800–1900: Saints’ 21–25 (30%) is closer to European 21–25 (~50%), but 12–20 (25%) is anachronistic vs. <12% European.
2000–2025: Saints’ data (pre-1900) is irrelevant; European men peak at 31–35 (~50%) vs. saints’ 15% at 31–40, driven by education and economic pressures.

Why Men’s Ages Rose:
Post-1500: Western European Marriage Pattern required men to establish households, delaying marriage to 25–30. Apprenticeships and land acquisition pushed ages up.
Post-2000: Education (e.g., university to ~25), career demands, housing costs, and cohabitation (40% of EU couples, 2020) shifted marriages to 31–35.

Canonization Bias: Few married male saints (mostly celibate men canonized), skewing data toward elite husbands (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Early marriages (12–16) are overrepresented vs. European norms post-1500.

Sources and Limitations
Saints’ Data: Estimated from prior lists (e.g., Joseph, Malcolm III), Roman Martyrology, and norms. Limited male saints (~50) make percentages speculative.
European Data: From demographic studies (Hajnal, Eurostat), parish records, and web sources (e.g.,). Year-by-year estimates are interpolated.
Limitations: Saints’ male data is sparse; ages are inferred. European data varies by region/class, with less granularity pre-1800.




Änσnymσus

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Re: Historical marriage age for men
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2025, 05:17:19 AM »
There was a post a while ago showing that women commonly married in their teens in the past, with 90% of girls who married married by 19 in Europe before the protestant revolt, and that number increasing to 20-25 by the year 2000, and from there again to 25-35. But what about men?

Pre-Christian Europe (500 BC–AD 300)
Mean: 20–35 (Roman elite ~25–40, Greek ~25–35, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%, rare).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

Early Christian Europe (AD 300–1000)

Mean: 20–30 (elite ~25–40, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

 Medieval Europe (1000–1500)

Mean: Nobles 20–30, commoners 20–25 (~22–27).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 1% each (5%, young nobles).
17–18: 5% each (10%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 4% each (20%).
31–40: 0.2% each (2%).


Early Modern Europe (1500–1800)
Mean: 25–35 (~27–30, Western Europe; ~22–27 Southern Europe).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 3% each (12%).
21–25: 8% each (40%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–40: 0.6% each (6%).

Modern Era (1800–1900)

Mean: 25–30 (~25–28).
12–40 Breakdown:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

 Contemporary Era (1900–2025)

Mean: 25–30 (1900–1950, ~25–28), 30–35 (2000–2025, ~32, Eurostat 2023).
12–40 Breakdown:1900–1950:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

2000–2025:12–20: <0.5% each (<3%).
21–25: 3% each (15%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–35: 10% each (50%).
36–40: 2% each (10%).

Now for graphs to make it easier to read






1. Pre-1500 (500 BC–1500)
Saints: Peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting noblemen (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (~50%), common for nobles and commoners.
Note: Saints align with European norms, but 12–16 is slightly higher due to rare political marriages.

2. Early Modern (1500–1800)
Saints: Still peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting pre-1500 bias.
Europeans: Shift to 21–30 (~80%), as WEMP delayed marriages.
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are outdated; European men marry later.

3. Modern (1800–1900)
Saints: Anachronistic, stuck at 21–25 (30%) due to pre-1800 data.
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with 26–30 rising (30%).
Note: Saints’ data misaligns with rising ages.

4. Contemporary (1900–2025)
Saints: Irrelevant, reflecting pre-1900 norms (21–25 peak).
Europeans: 1900–1950 peaks at 21–25 (50%); 2000–2025 at 31–35 (50%).
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are obsolete; European men shift to 26–35.
You can see a shift of men getting married from 17-30 to 21-30 to 26-35.

So teenage girls married guys who were several years older to 10-15 years older. Since most girls were married by 19 and most guys by 30. After the protestants took over with Jєωιѕн/masonry the men were still getting married BY 30 but the women started getting married later BY 25. Now it's mostly BY 35 for both, though most get married in the 25-35 age range. So age gaps have gotten smaller and people are getting married later.


Re: Historical marriage age for men
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2025, 08:38:01 AM »
No source is given for the data presented, an important consideration when evaluating the veracity of the data.

Even more intriguing is wondering how this topic even remotely meets the criteria for using the Anonymous Forum:

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Änσnymσus

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Re: Historical marriage age for men
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2025, 08:44:27 AM »
No source is given for the data presented, an important consideration when evaluating the veracity of the data.

Even more intriguing is wondering how this topic even remotely meets the criteria for using the Anonymous Forum:
My guess is, deep down, OP knows how hopelessly autistic a post this is and doesn't want his future wife to ever find it and attribute it to him.

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Re: Historical marriage age for men
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2025, 09:13:00 AM »
The men were probably the same average age today as they were at any point in history, maybe a tad younger.

Women were DEFINITELY younger getting married/having children.