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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 07:50:54 AM »
Yes, sometimes women become feminists after having been mistreated by men ... but that's the minority case.  Most of the time women imagine that they're being mistreated if they're not being treated like men.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 09:20:52 AM »
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A woman will submit if her husband is kind and loving. He doesn’t have double standards in behavior, or use his wife as only a copulation outlet, maid, and nanny.
This is the main problem with feminism - women have been taught that they will do God's will...if the man does his first.  That's not catholic at all.  Women make a vow before God to respect their husbands (which includes obedience), which is what St Paul told women to do to fulfill their marital duties.
Secondly, the idea that men "force" women to be a maid and nanny shows you have no idea of the vocation of a wife/mother.  When you marry, it is your JOB to take care of the house and to raise your children.  That's how it has worked for 5,000 years.  If you blame your husband for these duties, you have a supremely warped, anti-catholic and feminist view of marriage.
I'll pray for you.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2018, 09:42:44 AM »
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Adam ate the apple same as eve... he could have said no, and God could have scrapped her to make a better model. But Adam desired the same thing she did, and that was unlimited power/knowledge. ... Women don’t lead men anywhere they don’t want to go, and that goes for men leading women too. 
No, Adam did not desire unlimited power/knowledge.  Adam didn't need unlimited knowledge because he already had infused knowledge and his power over nature was supreme.  God created men with the vocation to rule and govern, so that is their natural duty and their gifts are naturally ordered to fulfill this obligation.  Man's greatest temptation is ease of life, which is why God punished Adam with "labor and toil" for all his days.  Adam fell because he desired to please his wife; he desired pleasure and he sinfully sacrificed principles (i.e. God's commands) for human respect.
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God created women with the vocation to help and support.  Yet woman's greatest temptation is power/control, which they do not typically have the natural ability to obtain easily, which is why God punished Eve with Adam having dominion over her.
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Both sexes sinned in the Garden of Eden, but in different ways.  It is part of feminisms' errors to teach that men/women have similar natures and temptations, which is absolutely untrue.  A deeper knowledge of human nature and the differences of the sexes is necessary in our day and age. 
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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2018, 09:57:23 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 12, 2018, 09:20:52 AM
This is the main problem with feminism - women have been taught that they will do God's will...if the man does his first.  That's not catholic at all.  Women make a vow before God to respect their husbands (which includes obedience), which is what St Paul told women to do to fulfill their marital duties.
Secondly, the idea that men "force" women to be a maid and nanny shows you have no idea of the vocation of a wife/mother.  When you marry, it is your JOB to take care of the house and to raise your children.  That's how it has worked for 5,000 years.  If you blame your husband for these duties, you have a supremely warped, anti-catholic and feminist view of marriage.
I'll pray for you.
I don’t blame my husband for anything. I gladly do my task, but when he acts like it should just be done while he sits around all weekend doing nothing but nap, and watch football. While I’m up taking care of everything. I’m gonna get a little upset. That is taking advantage of me, and not thinking of my needs to relax on a weekend too.

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Have Women Become Too Independent For Marriage?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2018, 10:03:08 AM »
I completely agree that your situation sounds unfair, but my point is that YOUR obligations to God, through you vow of marriage, are NOT DEPENDENT upon your husband’s actions.  

Just because my father is an alcoholic doesn’t mean that gives me an accuse to be one too.  Just because your husband is being lax in his marital duties doesn’t mean you can too.  Your marital vow was to God and your husband but to God first.  
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