Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Enabling detraction?  (Read 4816 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Enabling detraction?
« on: May 23, 2022, 02:32:00 PM »
A friend of mine is going through an ugly divorce, and other than his two young adult children and my brother, I’m the only one he can talk to about his situation (he is Novus Ordo and also talks to a conservative Novus Ordo priest, I guess).

A lot of the things he brings up in the conversations are certainly detractionary and harmful to the reputation others.

He has been calling me to unload for 5 months, sometimes 3-4 times/day if I don’t pick up.  But now I’m afraid to pick up, knowing that he’s only calling to get stuff off his chest and give me the day’s latest ugly developments, for fear that despite wanting to be there for him, I’m enabling his detraction (which he might not even know is sinful, thinking he can tell me whatever as long as it’s true).

Do you guys think I’m sinning by continuing to take his calls?  He seems totally desperate and I’m a little worried that if he can’t vent, he might go off the deep end, and so the last couple weeks I only take his 45 minute calls about once/week, but even that much is sure to contain detraction.

Am I winning by taking his calls?

What would you do in my position?  Just explain detraction to him, and stop him when he does it?

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Re: Enabling detraction?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2022, 02:55:06 PM »
A friend of mine is going through an ugly divorce, and other than his two young adult children and my brother, I’m the only one he can talk to about his situation (he is Novus Ordo and also talks to a conservative Novus Ordo priest, I guess).

A lot of the things he brings up in the conversations are certainly detractionary and harmful to the reputation others.

He has been calling me to unload for 5 months, sometimes 3-4 times/day if I don’t pick up.  But now I’m afraid to pick up, knowing that he’s only calling to get stuff off his chest and give me the day’s latest ugly developments, for fear that despite wanting to be there for him, I’m enabling his detraction (which he might not even know is sinful, thinking he can tell me whatever as long as it’s true).

Do you guys think I’m sinning by continuing to take his calls?  He seems totally desperate and I’m a little worried that if he can’t vent, he might go off the deep end, and so the last couple weeks I only take his 45 minute calls about once/week, but even that much is sure to contain detraction.

Am I winning by taking his calls?

What would you do in my position?  Just explain detraction to him, and stop him when he does it?

Meant “am I sinning by taking his calls” knowing very likely he will detract.


Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Re: Enabling detraction?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2022, 03:06:46 PM »
I think I’m just going to have the talk with him and explain that he needs to keep the dirty details to himself going forward or I won’t be able to take his calls, and then will speak with a priest regarding any culpability I may have incurred so far.

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Re: Enabling detraction?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2022, 03:07:30 PM »
It's important to be supportive. You can listen and take what opportunities there are to help correct his attitude and mindset. 

The sin of detraction is committed by the person doing the detracting. It isn't necessarily sinful to receive detective information (though it might  be sinful to delight in it and actively pursue it). If your friend is going to talk to someone about it, probably better to talk a Catholic who knows him well, can parse truth from fiction, and is at smaller risk of being corrupted. 

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Re: Enabling detraction?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2022, 03:10:17 PM »
Sometimes people do just need to talk, but if it goes on for a long while it turns into a bad habit that doesn't really help anyone, including your friend, and, obviously, goes over the line into sin.
It's not clear from your post if you live nearby. If you do live close enough, I would try finding some work for him to do: hey X, I need some help building a garage, or come help me fix the sidewalk at the Chapel, etc., etc.
Being of help to others just might be what your friend needs in order to get out of the hole that he is in.