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Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
Of course.  You kindof had to have experienced the Urrutigoity cabal to have developed this particular sensibility.
Thanks be to God, there are many of us who have been freed of this horror! Reading Randy Engels case against him was enough. 

Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2019, 09:34:04 AM »
I am most thankful to the Holy Ghost for quickly extracting me from the SSJ cult (cult in the pejorative sense)

Of all the postulants who came that fateful time in Shohola, and I believe there were about eight, all were gone I was later told within about a month. I was gone in 12 hours. One night was enough.

Alas that the whole lot were not strung up and made to sway in the breeze as a reminder to other pervs.


Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2019, 09:46:40 AM »
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Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2019, 11:20:02 AM »
The one that +Lefebvre is wearing is probably not what OP had in mind.  I had a bad experience with excessively lacey surplices at STAS -- it was mostly the future SSJ crowd that was very big into these.  We're talking lacey to the point of looking like women's lingerie, not what +Lefebvre was wearing.
OP here and yes, that's right, the one that Lefebvre is wearing in the first photo actually looks fine.
The one he's wearing in the second photo, and the ones even St. Pius X himself is wearing, I'm sorry, but those look effeminate.
I don't think recognizing this is a sin or "bad." I think it was in the McHugh and Callan moral theology book that I read that one might dislike and object to religious art because not all religious/sacred art is well made or "good" looking, so this may seem to be similar, in my view.
I don't like this sort of brain-washing where men look at flowery lace and say "yeah that looks so manly" simply because a Saint or someone highly regarded would wear it.
A black cassock, on the other hand, looks very good and manly, in my mind. The world seems to think so too, since this is the outfit they gave Neo in the Matrix movies (not endorsing or approving of them in any way).

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Re: Effeminate lace albs
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2019, 11:27:53 AM »
Was Michaelangelo effeminate for painting the Sistine chapel?  Just because something is beautiful and artistic doesn't mean it's effeminate to recognize or enjoy it.  Effeminacy is choosing luxury and ease at the expense of labors and hard work.  The beauties of the liturgy are for the purpose of honoring God, not for pleasing the sights of men.  Big difference.
I don't see what painting the Sistine Chapel has to do with flowery lace, and like someone else said, maybe he was effeminate after all.

Something can be beautiful and artistic without being effeminate.

I am not objecting to everything in the liturgy, only to effeminate lace albs.