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:facepalm:  Pair bonding has to do with hormones, emotions and human psychology. 

Can you quote any Catholic sources for this?

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Can you quote any Catholic sources for this?
Of course there is not a Catholic source.  The science is new.  The science came after Vatican 2.  There hasn't been theologians discussing the matter.

For those who like research. (I did not read the whole thing)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10295201/

1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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The consequences might be worse for women, but does that mean the sin is any less?

Should a woman want to marry a man who has sinned with women? 

Is it really true that men don't have physical, emotional ,  or psychological damage when they have multiple partners?  Are we even able to measure this?  Is it more based on certain temperaments? 
Why do you keep going on and on when this has already been discussed?
Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of marriage.
This is true, even though it takes 2 to do both it's no difficulty for a woman fornicate, she can literally order any man on delivery through an app. But this is not the case for marriage for men. And fornication will depend on his looks.

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Pair bonding is not Catholic.  It's a construct based on evolutional psychology.  Unmarried people can pair bond according to this theory. 

Matrimony is Catholic.  It's the only bond that matters.
Pair bonding is a chemical connection that occurs. It's a real thing due to the biology that God made. It has nothing to do with evolution which is a heresy. Matrimony is a spiritual bond, but the body also has physical bonds which are important as a person is both body and soul.

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Ladies men are serial fornicators who constantly seek female-attention due to stunted emotional development. They have negative feminine traits themselves (duplicity - e.g. have affairs) unless they learn to snap  out of it and be a real man. Just like correcting a limp wrist.
It takes no effort for the woman to fornicate. If a man fornicates a woman is also involved. Guess what? The average woman today has way more partners than the average man. Interesting you say a man can snap out of it, a woman cannot do the same, what I mean is that the damage is done because woman are less rational.


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Marriage honourable in all, and the bed undefiled. For fornicators and adulterers God will judge. Hebrews 13:4

The immoral are only lucky it doesn't carry the death penalty like it used to. And Jesus Christ said "Go and sin NO MORE" to the woman caught in adultery ( John 8:11).

Jesus Christ was more than familiar with the rope ...

But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. (Matthew 18:6)
On the contrary it still has the death penalty of the soul, and in most cases it's the child that get the death penalty if you know what I mean. If woman couldn't murder their children fornication would be much less.

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Can you quote any Catholic sources for this?
It does not take a Catholic source to understand that woman become attached to their partners...

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Why do you keep going on and on when this has already been discussed?This is true, even though it takes 2 to do both it's no difficulty for a woman fornicate, she can literally order any man on delivery through an app. But this is not the case for marriage for men. And fornication will depend on his looks.
I've been wondering the same thing. Maybe she's projecting her own issues. It's such a weird thing to be this obsessed on this topic unless maybe you're unmarried and you want to find a spouse, i don't know. 


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It takes no effort for the woman to fornicate. If a man fornicates a woman is also involved. Guess what? The average woman today has way more partners than the average man. Interesting you say a man can snap out of it, a woman cannot do the same, what I mean is that the damage is done because woman are less rational.
Women will be more selective with who they fornicate with (guy has money, status, or looks) but men could literally do it to anything (I'm not saying they do) because of their high sex drive. 

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 Guess what? The average woman today has way more partners than the average man. 
I don’t think so. :facepalm:

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I don’t think so. :facepalm:
Women undervalue their body count, men overvalue it. 


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Women will be more selective with who they fornicate with (guy has money, status, or looks) but men could literally do it to anything (I'm not saying they do) because of their high sex drive.
And the woman choose the best they can get which makes them have unrealistic expectations. None of these attractive men will commit, because they have options. It takes no effort for a woman to have insecure legs. It is said that the man does the woman and not vice versa putting it mildly.

I don’t think so. :facepalm:
It's literally true. Most guys have little to no experience with the ladies. While a majority of girls riding the chad carousel due to dating apps. Like the other poster said, me will sleep with almost anyone while woman are picky. The woman will still sleep with the attractive men while the average/unattractive guys are invisible.

That's why we see data that claims most men are single while most woman are not.

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On the contrary it still has the death penalty of the soul, and in most cases it's the child that get the death penalty if you know what I mean. If woman couldn't murder their children fornication would be much less.
Your post is perfect and quotable. Thank you.

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And the woman choose the best they can get which makes them have unrealistic expectations. None of these attractive men will commit, because they have options. It takes no effort for a woman to have insecure legs. It is said that the man does the woman and not vice versa putting it mildly.
It's literally true. Most guys have little to no experience with the ladies. While a majority of girls riding the chad carousel due to dating apps. Like the other poster said, me will sleep with almost anyone while woman are picky. The woman will still sleep with the attractive men while the average/unattractive guys are invisible.

That's why we see data that claims most men are single while most woman are not.

You're right. It's counter-intuitive, because superficially, your first thought is, "It takes two to tango". But the male tango partners are the top 5%, whereas many guys are left out altogether. So yes, each "notch on the woman's bed post" represents a male fornication as well -- but it's all the same men!

Also, "averages" are deceptive because Chad skews the numbers.

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Something about the term “pair bonding” makes me cringe every time I see it. It just sounds so… scientific? It’s hard to find the right way to describe it. It just seems like it lowers the marital act to something almost animalistic. 

Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
~James 1:27