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Author Topic: Does a potential spouse have a right to know sɛҳuąƖ history before marriage?  (Read 55746 times)

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Perhaps the time has come for much more parental involvement in the courting and marriage process.
The c-sickness scam has adversely affected the mental and social health of society. Younger Gen Z’s are suffering not from serial concubinage and too much sex on the brain, but the opposite. Years of lockdowns have left older teens and young adults with “failure to launch” syndrome.  They don’t know how to socialize without phones. They aren’t leaving the nest, convinced they cannot ever find remunerative work, establish their own home much less own one, they cannot afford to marry, or to support a spouse and raise children.
Catholic parents and priests should step in and assist the young in becoming adults.
I’m not suggesting arranged marriages as in, “You WILL marry this person or you’re out of the will,” type of arrangements, rather, parents and priests should play a more significant role in facilitating choosing career paths and healthy relationships leading to good marriages and Godly offspring, not just focusing on religious vocations alone. A healthy society needs both.
Good analysis and glad someone agrees with me.

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Why are you assuming that I am assuming ?
You think sins of the flesh (private) is going to cancel out a virgin man? Well you didn’t mention the same thing for a woman because everyone assumes mostly men do them. 

And a virgin man is still a virgin even if he has done sins of the flesh in private. 


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You think sins of the flesh (private) is going to cancel out a virgin man? Well you didn’t mention the same thing for a woman because everyone assumes mostly men do them.

And a virgin man is still a virgin even if he has done sins of the flesh 
The same is true of women. 

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You think sins of the flesh (private) is going to cancel out a virgin man? Well you didn’t mention the same thing for a woman because everyone assumes mostly men do them.

And a virgin man is still a virgin even if he has done sins of the flesh in private.
The effect of unnatural sins is grave too.
And yes I understand that women do them also. I'm not an idiot.

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I’m sure more men are virgins than woman. It shouldn’t be that hard to find a virgin man.
And how many of those virgin me can provide are mature and can lead? Unlike the woman, the man has much more that is expected of him. This is another reason why a man's virginity is less important.


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There is some truth that men more men are virgins these days, however those same men are committing many unnatural sins in private, so it kind of is irrelevant. and cancels itself out.
It doesn't. A women sleeping with a man is much worse than a man self abusing. In terms of 'damage' (not looking at sin here).

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The priest may have been trying to soften his blows to you when he said that.

There are some women who should not marry it is true. And because men have more options and can wait longer, its better sometimes for them to wait. Find someone more stable.
The problem with this is most modern people are not ok with age gaps. So the man waiting makes it harder to get a younger girl due to feminist brainwashing.

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Perhaps the time has come for much more parental involvement in the courting and marriage process.
The c-sickness scam has adversely affected the mental and social health of society. Younger Gen Z’s are suffering not from serial concubinage and too much sex on the brain, but the opposite. Years of lockdowns have left older teens and young adults with “failure to launch” syndrome.  They don’t know how to socialize without phones. They aren’t leaving the nest, convinced they cannot ever find remunerative work, establish their own home much less own one, they cannot afford to marry, or to support a spouse and raise children.
Catholic parents and priests should step in and assist the young in becoming adults.
I’m not suggesting arranged marriages as in, “You WILL marry this person or you’re out of the will,” type of arrangements, rather, parents and priests should play a more significant role in facilitating choosing career paths and healthy relationships leading to good marriages and Godly offspring, not just focusing on religious vocations alone. A healthy society needs both.
I know several older men and women 25+ who won't be getting married. For the woman it's because they are old and unattractive, for the men it's because they don't have money and/or are unattractive and balding. The problem is the priests recommend that people get married past 25 due to "brain development" (which is a meme for woman). This is fine for the men but for woman it's terrible advice.


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The problem with this is most modern people are not ok with age gaps. So the man waiting makes it harder to get a younger girl due to feminist brainwashing.
Age gaps are only a thing because men feel like they deserve a younger woman since they may have been rejected by their female peers when they were younger.  

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Age gaps are only a thing because men feel like they deserve a younger woman since they may have been rejected by their female peers when they were younger. 
No it's because woman develop earlier and faster then men. It's because men need to be mature, lead and provide. It's takes much longer for a man to be ready to get married than a woman. The woman should ideally get married at around ~18. But at 18 most males are nowhere near ready to marry and become fathers and husbands.

So yes men do deserve a younger woman, not because they got rejected (women usually prefer older men) but because after building themselves up from nothing why would they pick a woman their age who was unwilling to support the and be around when they needed it most. Ladies you do not get to wait around at the finish line for a prince. The prince will pick a cute young virgin. Not an old lady.

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No it's because woman develop earlier and faster then men. It's because men need to be mature, lead and provide. It's takes much longer for a man to be ready to get married than a woman. The woman should ideally get married at around ~18. But at 18 most males are nowhere near ready to marry and become fathers and husbands.

So yes men do deserve a younger woman, not because they got rejected (women usually prefer older men) but because after building themselves up from nothing why would they pick a woman their age who was unwilling to support the and be around when they needed it most. Ladies you do not get to wait around at the finish line for a prince. The prince will pick a cute young virgin. Not an old lady.
Very, very well said.
Glad I'm not the only one with sanity on this forum.


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Very, very well said.
Glad I'm not the only one with sanity on this forum.
I am starting to think that the ladies will reject a prince if he isn't a virgin, or is not tall enough etc... You would think that Catholic girls are less picky than secular girls, seems that they are more picky.

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I am starting to think that the ladies will reject a prince if he isn't a virgin, or is not tall enough etc... You would think that Catholic girls are less picky than secular girls, seems that they are more picky.

Blame their fathers. Cos they are only women.

Trad Fathers continue to live in la la land when it comes to the state of the marriage market out there.

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6rZpk53nUc

Sermon starts at the 40 minute mark(ish) and continues with the priest touching on courtship.