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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2022, 10:56:19 PM »
So I read this here, and every other sentence is a lie and is contradicted by Hoyle's own testimony in court (as per the link above).
http://www.23rdstreet.com/mhfm/eric_hoyle.aspx

This is a slander against the Dimond Brothers.

One the ond hand, it claims that Brother Dimond told Hoyle he had to give all his money to MHFM (in court it was admitted that he was just told he would have to renounce all his possessions before he took vows), and so he gave them a lot of money in 2005, but then over a year later, in 2006, he gave them more (another $300,000).  So, if the Dimond Brothers told him he had to give it all to them, how is it that he still had all this money left?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2022, 11:06:41 PM »
Here's another lie:
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Brother Michael vaingloriously declared this victory as an sign from God and NOT as a religious First Amendment issue that the District Court had no legal right to investigate and decide upon.

That is NOT why the courts ruled against Hoyle.  There was simply one issue that the court refused to rule upon, namely, the theological issue of whether MHFM was a "real" Benedictine monastery.  But the court ruled against Hoyle on pretty much everything else.  They confirmed that there was no misrepresentation from MHFM, no dishonesty, no agreement to return any of the money (as this article mendaciously claims), nothing to back up any of his claims regarding fraud or misrepresentation, or breach of contract, etc.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2022, 07:33:50 AM »
I was browsing that website last week and it is just full of lies and unsubstantiated claims. It's almost as if MHFM is the most lied about trad Order out there.
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Offline Minnesota

Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2022, 09:18:02 AM »
Quote from: DigitalLogos on September 25, 2022, 07:33:50 AM
I was browsing that website last week and it is just full of lies and unsubstantiated claims. It's almost as if MHFM is the most lied about trad Order out there.
It screams both financial and spiritual irresponsibility on Eric Hoyle's part.
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Offline confederate catholic

Re: Dimonds not returning the money of a former member who left
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2022, 12:01:53 PM »
As usual you are incapable of subtlety.
Just because someone claims to be benedictine and are not because they aren't following the rule, doesn't mean that they are not vowed and living in a community as religious. Someone joining said community and staying until they take vows are not ignorant of the life they're vowing. 

Just because I experienced firsthand the utter lack of their Benedictine living, does not negate their vows and communal life. Facts are not biased and neither should we be. The views of the Diamonds can not be refuted because of how they live or by what they call themselves. Either they are speaking truth or not. Baalam prophesied the messiah. Truth is truth.

But continue to strike out at anyone who's opinion differs with you without knowing what they think 
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