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Being forced to go a modernist university
« on: September 13, 2019, 03:42:49 PM »
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  • I'm an 18 year old young man who has recently returned to the Catholic faith by the grace of Almighty God. This happened about 2 years ago. It wasn't until around the beginning of 2019 that I started to discover tradition. However, it took me a while to adjust, and I had already applied by then. I had doubts about going to college in general before, but these concerns were less about the spiritual dangers, but rather the question of "do I really need to go?". I was shut down by my parents. My mother is in the Novus Ordo and my dad is a lapsed Greek Orthodox. As the end of this summer approached, I had to wake up and smell the coffee. 

    I quickly realized that this school isn't Catholic. One of the presenters for our freshman orientation talked about the glories of "diversity", going so far as to mention the time he saw two sơdơmites "lovingly" hold hands!  :barf: 

    Another promoted the use of some kind of new age mediation. In all of this, not a mention of Our Lord Jesus Christ! We had a convocation in which a priest called down God's intercession, which gave me some temporary relief. However, I ended up feeling scandalized by all of this and close to despair. I never stopped trusting in God. I go exclusively to the TLM. I say 15 decades of the rosary, which no doubt keeps my mind from absorbing the pollution of the place. There are other things I can mention too. Immodestly dressed women everywhere, a flyer for a sơdơmite club, etc. After about 3 weeks of this clown show, I decided to confront my parents. I told them about the dangers of this place, that it was driving me crazy. I told them I wanted to drop out. Did nothing. They said I had to be "more positive". Just yesterday, I had to read a short story in which degenerate sɛҳuąƖ behavior was being referenced. I think God's allowed all of this to show me that I need to get out. 

    I have no job, no money. I'm being forced to go to this school by my parents. I don't live on campus. What can I do? Can I bring this up in my next confession? Prayers and advice would be greatly appreciated. I'll pray for all you too. 

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #1 on: September 13, 2019, 03:53:43 PM »
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  • Count on being added to my prayers. No matter what, keep praying that 15+ decade rosary, keep it in your pocket at all times no matter what, wear the scapular and tell God, respectfully and with however much faith you can, to "get me out of here,  I will never make it to heaven living this way, put me where I need to be." You may need to do this daily for a bit.

    Please, after however long, let us know how well this worked for you.  

     

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2019, 04:23:03 PM »
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  • You sound very maturr to your age.

    I hope you will find a job soon.

    One question. What are you studying? Its a career that will give you a job or its something related to Social Sciences and you will be a future unemployed?

    If its a career that will give you the oportunity to have better jobs to provide for your future family maybe you can sacrifice for some years.

    "Maybe" because the only who knows if you can survive there without losing your soul is you. 

    Inmodest women, lgbtxcgrr propaganda, etc, its everywhere if you are and adult. You will have to work with non christians, etc. Except you move to a rural area ...

    What if you study a short career? Or learning a trade. 

    Of course your parents will scream. But its your life and your soul...

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2019, 05:10:27 PM »
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  • This thread reminds me of a moral dilemma that I thought about. I was an English major but I graduated from school two years before my conversion. But what would happen if one was taking a course in college that one was required to pass to graduate. And in that class one had to read a book on the Index of Forbidden Books? What then? Of course that is probably one of the reasons Catholics used to be forbidden from going to non-Catholic schools. I know I read bad books in school and after I converted I threw many of them away.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #4 on: September 13, 2019, 05:48:56 PM »
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  • One question. What are you studying? Its a career that will give you a job or its something related to Social Sciences and you will be a future unemployed?
    OP here. I'm studying Secondary Education. Just to clarify for all, I'm studying at a "Catholic" university. 


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #5 on: September 13, 2019, 05:54:11 PM »
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  • Count on being added to my prayers. No matter what, keep praying that 15+ decade rosary, keep it in your pocket at all times no matter what, wear the scapular and tell God, respectfully and with however much faith you can, to "get me out of here,  I will never make it to heaven living this way, put me where I need to be." You may need to do this daily for a bit.

    Please, after however long, let us know how well this worked for you.  
     OP here. Thanks so much!  I started wearing my scapular daily back in the summer, glad I've done so. I'll do what you said and keep you all updated.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #6 on: September 13, 2019, 06:19:15 PM »
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  • Count on being added to my prayers. No matter what, keep praying that 15+ decade rosary, keep it in your pocket at all times no matter what, wear the scapular and tell God, respectfully and with however much faith you can, to "get me out of here,  I will never make it to heaven living this way, put me where I need to be." You may need to do this daily for a bit.

    Please, after however long, let us know how well this worked for you.  

     
    That's excellent advice.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #7 on: September 13, 2019, 06:22:31 PM »
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  • That's excellent advice.
    I did it again.  That's me!  Alexandria
    OP, have you consecrated yourself to Our Lady yet?  If not, get the True Devotion book and do it.  
    Stay as close as you can to Our Lady and beg Her to protect your purity.  You do your part too by practicing custody of the eyes.    If some female scantily clad happens to catch you unawares, do not, at any cost, look back.
    I will keep you in my prayers, young man.  God be with you every step of the way, and may Our Blessed Mother protect you.


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #8 on: September 13, 2019, 06:43:07 PM »
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  • OP, if you get to teach in a secondary school it will be a nest of vipers.
    Is this your choice to teach? 

    If you are under your parents' authority you are bound to obey them. Once you no longer are under their authority, you can ask for their advice but are not bound to take it. Always you must respect them.

    So attempt to prepare for independence asap, follow the wisdom of Stubborn and Alexandria and you cannot go wrong.

    God will bless you!

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #9 on: September 13, 2019, 10:40:09 PM »
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  • How are you being forced? You have freewill.

    Have you read St. Thomas Aquinas's story? His aristocratic mother wanted him to become a political leader, but St. Thomas wanted to become a Dominican. To try to dissuade him, his brothers locked him in a tower for a year, even hiring a prostitute to tempt him, whom he drove out with a fiery brand.

    His Summa question on whether one needs his parents' permission to enter religious life (Summa Theologica II-II q. 189 a. 6) can be applied to your situation, too.

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2019, 05:10:24 PM »
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  • I did it again.  That's me!  Alexandria
    OP, have you consecrated yourself to Our Lady yet?  If not, get the True Devotion book and do it.  
    Stay as close as you can to Our Lady and beg Her to protect your purity.  You do your part too by practicing custody of the eyes.    If some female scantily clad happens to catch you unawares, do not, at any cost, look back.
    I will keep you in my prayers, young man.  God be with you every step of the way, and may Our Blessed Mother protect you.
    OP here. Thanks very much for the prayers and advice! I've said a short consecration prayer to Our Lady before, but I really do want to do the 33 day consecration. I currently don't have True Devotion, but I'll likely get sometime next month. 


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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #11 on: September 15, 2019, 05:19:46 PM »
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  • Our Lady of Sorrows

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #12 on: September 15, 2019, 05:23:46 PM »
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  • OP, if you get to teach in a secondary school it will be a nest of vipers.
    Is this your choice to teach?

    If you are under your parents' authority you are bound to obey them. Once you no longer are under their authority, you can ask for their advice but are not bound to take it. Always you must respect them.

    So attempt to prepare for independence asap, follow the wisdom of Stubborn and Alexandria and you cannot go wrong.

    God will bless you!
    OP here. Thank you for the sound advice. It was my choice initially, but that was when I under pressure to pick a major and was just getting back into the faith. I realize now this wasn't a good move. I'm in the education program for 2 years as a part of a scholarship. Parents won't let me back out. 
    I'm definitely following the guidance of Stubborn and Alexandria. Just reading what they've written has been a great consolation to me. 
    God bless you too!

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #13 on: September 15, 2019, 05:24:26 PM »
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  • OP here. Thanks so much!  I started wearing my scapular daily back in the summer, glad I've done so. I'll do what you said and keep you all updated.
    Did you just start wearing one or have you been enrolled in the scapular?

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    Re: Being forced to go a modernist university
    « Reply #14 on: September 15, 2019, 06:02:21 PM »
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  • How are you being forced? You have freewill.

    Have you read St. Thomas Aquinas's story? His aristocratic mother wanted him to become a political leader, but St. Thomas wanted to become a Dominican. To try to dissuade him, his brothers locked him in a tower for a year, even hiring a prostitute to tempt him, whom he drove out with a fiery brand.

    His Summa question on whether one needs his parents' permission to enter religious life (Summa Theologica II-II q. 189 a. 6) can be applied to your situation, too.
    OP here. I've heard of his story. This clears a lot of things up, thanks!


     

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