don't want a confessor that carries their phone into the confessional (this breaks the seal but I don't think all priests think about this)

How do you know he does or doesn't?

I worry about going to a new chapel. I'm new to an area and don't want a confessor that carries their phone into the confessional (this breaks the seal but I don't think all priests think about this) or is a fed. I haven't seen a horror story about confessionals at trad chapels but I assume 5-10% of priests minimum are feds. Imagine new converts at the generals getting visits later... This will be a reality in the coming years.

None of my business, but why would the feds be interested in your confessions?
Not that I’d want a priest bringing a cell phone into the confessional—ours told us years ago NOT to bring ours in, ever.  
5-10% of Trad priests are federal agents?  Really???  Do you wear a tinfoil hat?  Where have you been going to Mass?  Area 51?
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 5-10% of Trad priests are federal agents?  Really???  Do you wear a tinfoil hat?  Where have you been going to Mass?  Area 51?
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If they infiltrated and took over the mainstream Church even to the level of the papacy, don't you think they would try to infiltrate the resistance?  

If they infiltrated and took over the mainstream Church even to the level of the papacy, don't you think they would try to infiltrate the resistance?  

You can't just randomly extend lines or take mental shortcuts. It doesn't work that way.

Why infiltrate a microscopic group? Who cares about such a small group? Even if they maintain the true Catholic faith, 99.999% of the country won't have access to one of these chapels, so it's still Mission Accomplished for the destroyers. It's like saying the Germans aren't just blowing up shipping in the Atlantic, but they are spending thousands of man-hours scouring every square-foot of the ocean looking for 4-man rubber lifeboats as well.
A) a tiny group is much more close-knit and hard to infiltrate. Everyone knows everyone. B) the payoff is not worth it, because even if you gained full control of the group, it's insignificant.

The SSPX is a large group. They got influenced, taken over, or whatever but only AFTER they became a huge, influential organization -- probably over 80% of the whole Trad movement as measured in Trad population, # of priests, real estate, etc.

Even more so the Catholic Church -- about 10,000X the SSPX. They even have the official title "Catholic Church" and the global prestige associated with the Pope.

You need to put down AA-1025. Even if that book were 100% true, it only spoke about a broad plot to infiltrate *the entire Catholic Church* pre-Vatican II. When there are thousands of seminaries worldwide, each with HUNDREDS of seminarians, it's much easier to infiltrate a bunch of plants. It's like trying to shoplift a Wal-mart vs. trying to shoplift a small jewelry store where the one employee is pretty much constantly watching you.

History doesn't repeat that way, silly. If it did, then any 80 IQ normie would be a wise genius. No, it's always a bit different. Things are more complex than that. History might rhyme, but it never repeats exactly.

If you're counting SSPX then 5-10% is totally plausible, they don't even conditionally ordain priests from NO. I totally agree with you if we're just talking sede/resistance.

This is me. Sorry, the Anon setup can be awkward. Maybe names should be default on this forum?

It doesn't forbid confessors from revealing anything good learned about a penitent in the confessional.

?  What?

Yes, this happened in SSPX in Edinburgh Scotland July 2019 about 6 women there, infiltrators, in pants and refuse to cover their heads.

Maybe they can be coopted or blackmailed after they become priests to be FBI b!tches.