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Traditional Catholic Faith => World War III - Chapter 2 => Topic started by: Cera on September 05, 2013, 06:57:03 PM

Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cera on September 05, 2013, 06:57:03 PM
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: ggreg on September 05, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
What errors might Russia spread after WW3 that we don't already have?

Vodka drinking?  Circus acts with performing animals?  Chain smoking?

I am curious to know what you think Russia is like and what errors they have in abundance to corrupt us with, after WW3.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on September 05, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: Cera
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0


What errors can Russia spread to America? America is a sick and evil nation already. In fact we're so sick and evil we make Russia and the Islamic world appear to be traditional in terms of morality.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cera on September 06, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
 Yes, the Russian people were historically the first to be oppressed by legalized abortion, and the first to be oppressed by the legalization of one-day divorce.

But do you seriously think those were the only things Sister Lucy was talking about when she said "Yes, the United States also."

Imprisoning, torturing and killing Christians? Deliberate mass starvation?

I was also thinking of another of Mary's approved apparations when she warned us of Russia's secret armies.

"If My requests are not granted, Russia will spread her errors throughout the world raising up wars and persecutions against the Church,
the good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated." -Our Lady of Fatima, 1917

Father Paul Kramer said in 2004: Unanimously, in all the prophecies of the saints down through the ages, and in the most secure and certain apparitions of Our Lady, it is revealed that there is going to be a tremendous great World War. It will break out suddenly, from East to West...The Russians already have an army of Special Forces and Arab terrorists that they have trained, along with the Communist Red Chinese. They have a vast army, secret armies, who are waiting for the day when the signal is given...And they will attack Europe. In the morning it will appear that the world is at peace. By the evening, the entire world will be plunged into war. (Kramer P. The Imminent Chastisement for Not Fulfilling Our Lady’s Request. An edited transcript of a speech given at the Ambassadors of Jesus and Mary Seminar in Glendale, California, September 24, 2004.THE FATIMA CRUSADER Issue 80, Summer 2005, pp. 32-45 http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr80/cr80pg32.asp viewed 05/13/10)

According to the beatified Sister Elena Aiello, a mystic and stigmatic, was told by Our Blessed Mother:
 “The hour of the justice of God is close, and will be terrible!”  “Tremendous scourges are impending over the world, and various nations are struck by epidemics, famines, great earthquakes, terrific hurricanes, with overflowing rivers and seas, which bring ruin and death.”  “If the people do not recognize in these scourges (of nature) the warnings of Divine Mercy, and do not return to God with truly Christian living, ANOTHER TERRIBLE WAR WILL COME FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. RUSSIA WITH HER SECRET ARMIES WILL BATTLE AMERICA; WILL OVERRUN EUROPE.  The river Rhine will be overflowing with corpses and blood. Italy, also, will be harassed by a great revolution, and the Pope will suffer terribly.”  “Spread the devotion to my Immaculate Heart, in order that many souls maybe conquered by my love and that many sinners may return to my Maternal Heart. Do not fear, for I will accompany with my maternal protection my faithful ones, and all those who accept my urgent warnings, and they — especially by the recitations of my Rosary — will be saved.”  “Satan goes furiously through this disordered world, and soon will show all his might. But, because of my Immaculate Heart, the triumph of Light will not delay in its triumph over the power of darkness, and the world, finally, will have tranquility and peace.”  - given on August 22, 1960

Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Christopher67 on September 06, 2013, 04:09:35 PM
.... the good news is, once converted, Russia will be instrumental in ushering in the triumph of the Immaculate Heart....
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Elizabeth on September 06, 2013, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: Cera

I was also thinking of another of Mary's approved apparations when she warned us of Russia's secret armies.




Dear Cera,
Do you think maybe secret armies led by Gorby & co ?  
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Francisco on September 06, 2013, 11:59:27 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Quote from: Cera
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0


What errors can Russia spread to America? America is a sick and evil nation already. In fact we're so sick and evil we make Russia and the Islamic world appear to be traditional in terms of morality.


Very correct. I remember America used to be called " The Great Satan" by some in the Arab world. I think it should also be included in any Consecration to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on September 07, 2013, 12:42:54 AM
Quote from: Christopher67
.... the good news is, once converted, Russia will be instrumental in ushering in the triumph of the Immaculate Heart....


My biggest question is, who would do the consecrating? Should Frank and the gαy Lobby consecrate Russia?

We're pushing 100yrs hard; Russia's cleaning up her act as her errors have spread through the West and worsened. Russia said that about Afghanistan a decade ago ('don't do it, it was an ERROR' — should have sent shivers up any Catholic's spine to have Russia instructing us!); our news makes fun of Putin for being anti-Sodomite; we are nearly wholly unrighteous; and we can "help" Russia???

It's sad, but the bell has seriously tolled; it tolled when Roncalli balled up the 3rd Secret and banged the circus gong to open the heretical Vatican II sideshow. Can't unring that bell. So we need to be looking at the part of the prophecy that says what happens if Russia isn't consecrated. What's THAT say?
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Croix de Fer on September 07, 2013, 11:50:56 AM
Most of those errors already occurred through subterfuge and proxy war during the Cold War years, such as spreading their philosophies under the direction of Jєωs in the West, and fueling wars in Central America, SE Asia, while the Soviets ruled over their satellites in eastern Europe. Now, Russia has done pretty much a 180 degree turn from the Soviet Russia infested by Bolshevik Jєωs for so many years. The Russian government is largely free of Jєωs, if there are any in there at all; and Putin has criminalized fαɢɢօtry in public spaces and  fruit "marriage". Putin has also outlawed insulting the Church and any form of public mockery directed at her. This does not sound like "spreading her errors" anymore to me. The JєωSA is the exact opposite.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Maria Elizabeth on September 07, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
Quote from: Cera
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0



I just tried to access this video and got the following message: "This video has been removed by the user."

Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Frances on September 07, 2013, 02:22:52 PM
 :scratchchin:
Answer to OP:  WWIII. ???
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cera on September 07, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: Cera

I was also thinking of another of Mary's approved apparations when she warned us of Russia's secret armies.




Dear Cera,
Do you think maybe secret armies led by Gorby & co ?  


If they were led by Gorby (who is already at the Presidio in San Francisco), would they be secret armies? I'm thinking Black Muslim gangs, Moslems here in the U. S., the corporate Marxist media, the manipulated mind-controlled masses, etc. What are your thoughts?
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cera on September 07, 2013, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: Frances
:scratchchin:
Answer to OP:  WWIII. ???


Yes, that was the point of the video which is repeatedly being taken down. It was a very well-done compilation of just how close we are.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cera on September 07, 2013, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Maria Elizabeth
Quote from: Cera
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0



I just tried to access this video and got the following message: "This video has been removed by the user."



That's the message the (CIA controlled) YouTube gives when they take down a video they don't like. Sorry it's gone. It did a great job of showing how the coming war in the middle east will expand to Russia and China waging war against U. S. , both through economic warfare and physical invasion.

However, for those who have researched who funded the Marxist revolution in Russia, this has  been planned for a long time by the same parties who funded the moral decline in the U. S. (sɛҳuąƖ revolution, feminism, etc.)
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Croix de Fer on September 07, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: Cera



However, for those who have researched who funded the Marxist revolution in Russia, this has  been planned for a long time by the same parties who funded the moral decline in the U. S. (sɛҳuąƖ revolution, feminism, etc.)


The Jєωs and their Godless shabbos goyim.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cuthbert on September 07, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
I've wondered for a while if World Jєωry's diabolical hatred of primarily the Church, & secondarily the goyim in general, might be manifested in them deliberately fomenting a nuclear world war. The desire to exterminate the goyim that one reads in the Protocols would be very efficiently realized if such a war were to occur. One could argue that they would themselves suffer greatly, but they have probably made preparation for it by the constuction of underground bunkers in remote areas of the world that will in all likelihood not be very severely affected, such as South America. If anyone is interested in the technical aspects of nuclear war I would recommend Cresson H. Kearny's Nuclear War Survival Skills. It was originally printed during the 1980's but is still very useful.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Hatchc on September 07, 2013, 06:15:51 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert
I've wondered for a while if World Jєωry's diabolical hatred of primarily the Church, & secondarily the goyim in general, might be manifested in them deliberately fomenting a nuclear world war. The desire to exterminate the goyim that one reads in the Protocols would be very efficiently realized if such a war were to occur. One could argue that they would themselves suffer greatly, but they have probably made preparation for it by the constuction of underground bunkers in remote areas of the world that will in all likelihood not be very severely affected, such as South America. If anyone is interested in the technical aspects of nuclear war I would recommend Cresson H. Kearny's Nuclear War Survival Skills. It was originally printed during the 1980's but is still very useful.


That sounds far-fetched.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Elizabeth on September 07, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: Cera

I was also thinking of another of Mary's approved apparations when she warned us of Russia's secret armies.




Dear Cera,
Do you think maybe secret armies led by Gorby & co ?  


If they were led by Gorby (who is already at the Presidio in San Francisco), would they be secret armies? I'm thinking Black Muslim gangs, Moslems here in the U. S., the corporate Marxist media, the manipulated mind-controlled masses, etc. What are your thoughts?


Hmm.  My thoughts about gorby are more or less frozen in horror.  What was that manifesto he drafted some years ago?  I was amazed that he was allowed to reside in the US. Actually, I don't recall reading of approved Marian warnings of secret Russian armies-I may have glossed over it.  He scared me so much I am blocking out exactly why--but I would not underestimate his influence, or the money behind his leadership.  (sorry my thoughts are so vague and unfocused!)
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cuthbert on September 07, 2013, 07:17:36 PM
Maybe it is Hatchc, in fact I hope so. I of course have no irrefutable proof, just a thought. One thing that made me think of it is a rather obscure passage in the Protocols, the last paragraph of Protocol 9 reads " You may say that the Goyim will rise upon us, arms in hand, if they guess what is going on before the time comes; but in the west we have against this a manoeuvre of such appalling terror that the very stoutest hearsts quail-- the undergrounds, metropolitans, those subterranean corridors which, before the time comes, will be driven under all the capitals and from whence those capitals will be blown into the air with all their organizations and archives." How much more terrifying would nuclear weapons be than the conventional high explosives available at the time of the writing of the Protocols.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Frances on September 07, 2013, 09:07:39 PM
 :incense: :thinking:Maybe Fr. Pfluger should reconsider his rejection of Bishop Williamson's warnings about WWIII?
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Cuthbert on September 07, 2013, 09:26:47 PM
Yes Frances, Bishop Williamson certainly knows that of which he speaks, he gave a talk on the 30th of December last year wherein he gave excellent advice as to the best preparations one can make to hopefully survive what is coming. It's on you-tube, simply type in his name, the date & the title "hunker down" & it ought to come up. I'd post a link but that would take days if I could figure it out at all, not a computer expert I'm afraid.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: mikemac on September 16, 2013, 04:06:15 PM
Here's Bishop Williamson's "hunker down" video that Cuthbert mentioned.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/e8DdG6KV_Do[/youtube]

Prophecies of Sister Elena Aiello from the video below.

"For the godless people it will be hours of despair, by screaming and shouting out satanic curses they will beg for the mountains to cover them and they will try to escape to the caves but without success." 5:45 minutes into the video (the video is showing an underground bunker when it quotes this)

"Finally fiery glowing clouds will appear in the sky and a firestorm will strike out over the whole earth.  This terrible scourge that was never seen before in the history of men will last 70 hours." 6:11 minutes into the video (sounds like the three days of darkness to me, 24 x 3 = 72)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/mdRZGyniJu4[/youtube]


This is the first post in here for me.  Hi folks.  I recognize a lot of members in here from the SD forum and from that other unmentionable lavender forum.



Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: ggreg on September 16, 2013, 04:47:48 PM
Problem is that Bishop Williamson has been predicting imminent doom as long as anyone can remember.  I can remember his sermons back in the 1980s given at St. Joseph and Padarn in London when he said the Russians would nuke us for our sins, "soon".  30 years on, that never happened.  

http://www.romancatholicimperialist.org/2010/02/bishop-richard-williamson-failed.html

It's like saying the stock market will crash, "soon" and not defining what you mean by soon.  Eventually you will be right, but it is hardly a prophecy, since markets have always periodically crashed.  Timing is everything.

The only difference between a prophet worth listening to and false prophet is whether they are correct or not in their prophecy.  They don't get multiple dog's lives to fail at it and still retain their credibility.

Let's get real here.  Some of the blame for the generation of debiliTrads who don't have jobs, and have failed to marry or find a worthwhile vocation in life, can be laid squarely at the feet of these intergenerational prophets of imminent doom.  Starting a family or kicking off a career requires a degree of hope and optimism for the future.  It is much harder to stay motivated, if you are constantly wondering with every geo-political skirmish whether the world is going to come crashing down around you and make all those mortgage payments and all that home-building effort come to naught.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on September 16, 2013, 05:01:32 PM
Eh, I like the video, though I don't intend to hunker down much (too close to DC; fiat voluntas Dei) —but I love seeing old faces. Welcome mikemac!

(http://i.imgur.com/nWZ9UPD.gif)
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: mikemac on September 16, 2013, 09:02:40 PM
Thanks StCeciliasGirl.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2013, 04:36:26 PM
Good will triumph in the end, but it is important to be mentally prepared for the persecution that must come first. That persecution will be worse than at any time in Church history.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2013, 06:13:59 PM
Nor should we assume that "Russia spreading her errors" equates to Russia winning the war. Her errors are Marxism. Whatever country comes out of this inevitable conflict as the winner, will impose a totalitarian Marxist state upon the rest of the world it governs, as well s it own citizens. Under One World Government foreign soldiers would most likely be deployed as law enforcement, as they would have no nationalistic feelings toward the host country they would more readily employ brutal measures. Whether we win or lose we will very likely have Russian and Chinese soldiers patrolling our streets.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: Thurifer on September 24, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: Francisco
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Quote from: Cera
WWIII is a pretext for "Russia spreading her errors throughout the world." and yes, that does include the U. S. said Sister Lucy. Someone did a great compilation of video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk7yDuowM0


What errors can Russia spread to America? America is a sick and evil nation already. In fact we're so sick and evil we make Russia and the Islamic world appear to be traditional in terms of morality.


Very correct. I remember America used to be called " The Great Satan" by some in the Arab world. I think it should also be included in any Consecration to Our Lady's Immaculate Heart.


Then it has already been done by Pius XII and JPII. You may recall they consecrated the whole world. And by the way, Russia did not exist at the time they did it. Nor did it exist when Lucy, or her handlers, made the announcement which I think happened in about 1929.

In the meantime Russia is now well on its way to becoming a confessional state.

Putin Launches Direct Attack on Core Jєωιѕн Values (http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=10764)

Quote
Valdai, September 20, Interfax - People will lose their human dignity without values enshrined in Christianity and other world religions, without moral standards that have taken millennia to take shape, President Vladimir Putin.

"We believe that it is natural and appropriate to defend those values. Any minority deserves respect for its distinctive identity, but the rights of the majority must not be questioned," Putin said during a meeting of the Valdai discussion club.

He believes, that Russia can't move forward without cultural and national self-determination. Otherwise the country won't be able to respond to external or internal challenges, can't be successful in global competition.

"Events that take place in the world represent one more serious challenge to the Russian identity. There are foreign policy and moral aspects to this. We have been able to see many Euro-Atlantic countries effectively embark on a path of renouncing their roots, including Christian values, which underlie Western civilization," Putin said.

"That involves the negation of moral principles and any traditional identity - national, cultural, religious, or even sɛҳuąƖ," he said.

"Policies are pursued that put large families and same-sex partnerships in the same category, belief in God and belief in Satan. Excesses of political correctness reach the point where there are serious discussions on the registration of parties that have propaganda of pedophilia as their objective. People in many European countries are ashamed and afraid of speaking about their religion, holidays are abolished or given other names, names that shyly conceal the nature of those holidays, and aggressive attempts are made to force this model on the rest of the world," Putin said.

"This is a direct path to degradation and primitiveness, to deep demographic and moral crises," he said.

"What can be a better indication of a moral crisis in human society than its loss of the ability for self-reproduction?" Putin said.


Most people have been deceived into thinking that Jєωs do not proselytize. Of course they don’t try to convert us, but they accomplish it by convincing us to give up our ethnic and religious identity. And it looks like the entire West has gladly taken up the idea.

While I am very happy to read what Mr. Putin has said, I must confess that it scares me at the same time. Because it is becoming apparent to me that Putin will be portrayed as the real “next Hitler” that the West has in its sites. When Putin talks sense, and with the West broke and in moral ѕυιcιdє mode, throw in a broken banking system that still wants to rule, and you have quite the recipe for World War III starting.

Iran and Syria are starting to look like a sideshow to me. A mere warm up act and/or perhaps a means towards the big one.

Everything is truly upside down now. Russia is making sense while here in the US we are crowning Transgendered Homecoming Queens. And we’re proud of it.

And then we have people like Father Gruner saying we ought to fast and pray. Isn't that nice? Fasting and praying for his cause makes one quite involved. After going to the trouble of doing that, who wouldn't make a donation to him? Or make another one. It justifies the fast after all. And just think of all that money you can save by eating only one meal a day. Send it to Father Gruner.

People asking for the Consecration are just as deceived as those poor Fundamentalists waiting for the Rapture. Like someone says below, "we want Pope Francis and the gαy Lobby to do it?"

Please. Enough already. This is nonsense. And don't get me started by pointing out that those errors were made by Jєωs and were hatched by bankers in the West and carried out by Jєωιѕн Bolsheviks in Russia, forming the Soviet Union.
Title: What will happen after Russia China Syria and Iran go to war against us?
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on September 25, 2013, 11:22:19 AM
We have wide opened borders between the US and Mexico, and the US
and Canada.
Every tom, Dick, and Jerry throughout the world are coming in and we do not know what is really in their luggage.
It is a punishment from God that blind our authorities and our political
leaders in the seriousness of this situation.
It is the deliberately dumbing down of our population that will bring the
end of this country in the near future.