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Offline jman123

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« on: February 08, 2012, 04:38:55 PM »
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  • Is a war with Iran potentially dangerous to us? If so how.

     Would we risk with war with Russia and China if we attack Iran?

    Are those 2 countries willing to fight us?


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    war with Iran
    « Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 04:59:23 PM »
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  • This is so funny you just posted this. I was about to post this link into an new thread. I'll post it here:

    Concern Elevates that Israel will Strike Iran



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    « Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 05:03:03 PM »
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  • We're going to go to war with them. Trust me. Is it dangerous? Sure. But time will tell how China and Russia will come to make enemies with the US...

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    « Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 05:08:29 PM »
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  • Here's another one showing what they're scheming:

    Israel embassies preparing for Iran strike


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    war with Iran
    « Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 05:12:49 PM »
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  • So Isreal will start this war, so the US can save face. After we 'led from behind' in Lybia, I'm assuming that our leaders have taken that as some sort of sign... "But hey, we didn't start the war!"

    Bet you some Doritos this is gonna be it...


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    war with Iran
    « Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 05:43:49 PM »
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  • It's a red herring.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 05:50:29 PM »
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  • The U.S. and the sellout puppet "leaders" of France and Germany, the globalists who follow the U.S. system, are protecting their interests in the Middle East.  We are agitating behind the scenes in Egypt, Libya, Syria.  I don't know what's going on in Iran but this is some kind of scare tactic.  I could easily be wrong but I don't believe there will be any WWIII nuclear apocalypse, I think it will be an economic apocalypse.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 06:53:35 PM »
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  • I also doubt the nuclear apocalypse; but I think this war has been a long time coming. I think Israel is uncomfortable with the rhetoric Iran puts out; I can't say I'm no fan of Ahmadinejad; but less a fan of Israel.

    But there I go again.... All in our Lord and Lady's time... I shouldn't get too caught up with this stuff.


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    war with Iran
    « Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 04:43:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: jman123
    Is a war with Iran potentially dangerous to us? If so how.

     Would we risk with war with Russia and China if we attack Iran?

    Are those 2 countries willing to fight us?


    It's dangerous in that Iran can block the Straight of Hormuz where a whole lot of oil transits.  This would have very probable effect of sending the world into an economic depression due to very high oil prices.  Iran also have many capable proxies from which it can retaliate.

    You need to ask why Russia and China would go to war over Iran.  They both pursue their own self interest and that interest does not involve war for Iran.

    I think there will only be war if one party crosses an unstated red line.  It's in no one interest to see a war there.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 05:43:30 AM »
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  • I cannot easily work out the truth in all of this because of the disinformation:

    A very knowledgable person said to me some years ago that war cannot and will not come to Iran from the US, because it is too defensible and has powerful allies (or 'partners') who see it as too important an asset, and the US are not 'that stupid'. This was backed up for me by clear victories by Iran against the US in war simulations. Additionally Russia and China are very likely going to defend Iran and Syria by proxy and potentially directly. However this may not be true as I will mention at the end.

    Another source suggested to me that the Iranian leadership is false and is a puppet regime of either the US or Israel or in some convoluted way, Israel via Russia. However this is not entirely believable because Iran is well educated as a nation and is generally behaving in a logical and autonomous fashion, and Russia is not convincingly a zombie nation, but appears to be autonomous. But it could nonetheless be true because this is definitely the case with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. I don't know about Hezbollah.

    My hypothesis is still that if US and Iran go to war, it is to simultaneously fulfil both a prophecy and human planning. The prophecy is towards the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and making it the Jєωιѕн political capital as well as the spiritual capital (this would involve destroying the mosques and churches there, which a war could achieve nicely). Of course we know that such an event heralds the coming of the Antichrist and all that follows. Could we be living through the most difficult moment for God's people in human history?

    The human planning is of subjugating the US and allowing Israel to once again play the victim, win the world's sympathy (having thrown off its ugly Zionist clothing and put on its false lamb's wool), and be restored in what it sees as its rightful place as the ruling centre of the entire planet. The US army knows full well that war with Iran is probably suicidal, and as such one never knows if an animal knowingly led to the slaughter will turn on its master or not.


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    « Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 01:10:21 PM »
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  •   Today there were ''death to america/britain/israel " rallies. And liberal seculars reacted as if it was a crime against humanity to oppose america. What other Country in the world is as self hating as us?
      At least in cathinfo it is not a blasphemy to object to america. Thanks Matthew!


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    « Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 02:36:13 PM »
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  • You are so right, Spouse!  America is now in the hands of the Zionists.  They will try  a "fαℓѕє fℓαg" operation and blame it on your country to start a war.
    Look at this illustration from Rense .com.  it says it all.
    I pray you stay safe!


    Open this link and look at the map on Rense front page.


    http://rense.com/

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    war with Iran
    « Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 03:52:04 PM »
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  • I'm not a fan of Rense, but I also believe that Israel will attack Iran "soon".

    Apparently, fans of the Great Whore (who has blasphemously taken Our Lady's name) have petitioned Israel to "postpone the Iran attack until after her performance in Israel in late May"

    All I can say is: Iran is NOT Iraq. They have allies (Russia, China), they are armed, and they will defend themselves. This will not be Iraq II, it will be World War III!

    Get your preps, and get them now. Just remember the 5 G's.

    Since we're all traditional Catholics here, we presumably have our spiritual bases covered. So after you have "God", you then proceed to make sure you have the other bases covered: "Ground", "Gold", "Guns", "Grains".

    Ground -- own land, preferably in the country. This includes implements, supplies, seeds, etc. to make use of it to grow your own food. Even city folk can raise small animals, and can dig things like "door covered trench shelters" to survive nuclear fallout (google it!)

    Guns -- self explanatory. But don't forget ammo -- otherwise it's just an expensive club or hammer. This is your "insurance" category to make sure roving hordes or gangs don't steal your Ground, Grains, Gold -- or Girls (females in your family). Don't think guns are distasteful -- watching someone violate your wife, daughter, mother or sister would be much more distasteful. Self-defense is not wrong or sinful.

    Grains -- this includes food and water, preferably kinds that last a long time and don't NEED to be cooked. You can eat canned ravioli right out of the can. You might also get some wood, strike-anywhere matches, charcoal, an outdoor grill, a propane stove, solar oven, and other equipment needed to prepare food and purify water. Water is important -- you can only survive without it for a few days. Pack away some bleach for water purification, and have some large containers to put water in. Milk jugs work fine for a few months before they start leaking, but 2-liter bottles and other (thicker) plastic jugs last much longer. Some basic medical supplies are also very helpful to have around.

    Gold -- this includes silver (hahaha) and other things that everyone universally values (alcohol, medical supplies, tools, solar panels) and also things that are "nice" but you can live without. In this category go all "practical things" -- the stuff that anyone and everyone can use. Gas cans, tools, tarps, raincoats, comforters, pails, you name it. For ideas, think "What would make my life more bearable if I had to live an 1840's existence -- if there were no cars, supermarkets, imports from China, or electricity" This is where you spend the rest (if any) of your Preps budget, after you have the basics covered.

    I'd also like to add another "G", and that is "Group". If you're trying to survive completely alone, it will be very, very difficult. Self-sufficiency is not usually achieved by an individual, but rather by some kind of group. The more neighbors/friends/family you can bring on board, the better. It's much better if you band together with others to pull through a survival situation. Just try to be prudent in who you bring on board.

    One last thing -- if things really unravel, people will revert to a more primal state. If your neighbor(s) wouldn't be on your side in prison, he probably won't be too friendly post-collapse. When people are scared and "on their own", they revert to a very tribal stick-with-my-own-kind mentality. In prison all the races separate like oil and water. People band together for protection with those they trust the most -- which apparently are those who look something like themselves.
    If you and your neighbors have the Catholic Faith all this is moot -- but I'm just warning you about this one point of human nature, for those of you who have never been to prison (or read about it). Racism, tribalism, cruelty, etc. are not dead just because it's 2012. They're just sleeping -- because everyone feels safe right now.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 03:56:55 PM »
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  • Another bad omen -- it's 2012.

    And for the doubters and naysayers out there (Vandaler?) let me ask you this:

    Is it not dangerous when a large group of people place special emphasis on a given year? If everyone expects some kind of doom around the end of 2012, might that not influence those in power -- like a self-fulfilling prophecy?

    But meanwhile you have men in the Illuminati and other secret societies that are very much into numerology, the Occult, and they love connecting their "evil plans" with ancient empires, men, prophecies, etc. because it makes them seem larger than life.

    Couldn't you picture a powerful group of men aiming for "late 2012" for their "World War 3" project, just so the Mayans (a great civilization of old) might have had little old them in mind? It flatters their pride.

    The Freemasons like to connect themselves with Solomon and his temple, for example, even though the Freemasons didn't exist back then.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 12, 2012, 04:26:38 PM »
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  • Good posts, Matthew. I thoroughly enjoyed reading them... only reignited my fire for the 4 G's you stated.