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Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
« on: February 02, 2019, 08:42:47 PM »
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  •  Vladimir Putin to the West: ‘We Will Bury You!’

    By Gilbert Doctorow

    February 02, 2019 "Information Clearing House" -    I have given this essay a “fake news” title for a good reason: to direct your attention to the fact that the incumbent President of Russia is too gentle for his and our good. He does not make threats the way his predecessor, the party boss of the Soviet Union did in 1956. He does not bang his shoe on the desk in front of him while speaking to the General Assembly of the United Nations as Nikita Khrushchev also did. Thus, we Europeans and Americans are oblivious to the dangers of a hot war with Russia that we risk by pursuing our present-day foreign policy of driving Russia into a corner. War could not be further from our minds, since, we tell ourselves, no one wants war.

    Because of his behavior cited above, because of the launching of the first Sputnik during his time in office and the invasion of Soviet forces in Hungary for purposes of regime change, because of the atmospheric tests of the vastly powerful hydrogen bombs that his country was producing to wage war on us, Khrushchev made a strong impression on the broad public and also on the political classes in the West as a person who was aggressive, impolite and at the head of a dangerous country.

    Khrushchev proposed to us a policy of “peaceful co-existence,” allowing us to understand that non-acceptance by the West equated to the nonexistence of life on our planet. Consequently, Khrushchev and his country were always treated with respect and fear by our countries. We considered him to be a crude fellow, but no one dared to say that he was a thug, a murderer of journalists, etc. that one hears today regularly applied when our politicians and mass media describe Vladimir Putin. No one spoke back then of Russia as “a gas station not a country,” as a place that produced nothing that the world wanted or said that it was just a regional power that acted badly, all of which Barack Obama used to justify his decision to isolate Russia and cut all possible relations with this pariah state, even the channels of communications established decades ago following the Cuban Missile Crisis to give some stability and predictability in conditions of a Cold War.



    In contrast to Khrushchev and the other government leaders of the USSR, Mr. Putin acts and speaks in a very civilized manner. Even today, in a period of New Cold War, of permanent confrontations with the West, of severe economic sanctions imposed on his country and provocative NATO military exercises unprecedented in scale being held on Russia’s borders, Putin still speaks of the “colleagues” and “partners” in the West, for the purpose of keeping the peace and avoiding an escalation of tensions which could, in his belief, quickly lead to armed clashes.

    Where does Putin’s finesse come from? One must understand that his past takes in a lot more than his service in the KGB. During the 1990’s he served in the administration of the liberal mayor of St. Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. In his capacity as deputy mayor with responsibility for foreign investment, he met a whole procession of businessmen and politicians from Europe and the United States. He was part of the pro-Western entourage of the mayor and when he ascended to the presidency in 1999 he kept many of his liberal comrades close to him. They constitute even today an influential faction in Kremlin politics.

    From his first days in power, Putin hoped to integrate Russia in NATO and, more generally, in the Western world. Putin was the first head of state to phone George W. Bush after the attack on the World Trade Center and generously offered substantial help, opening up Russia’s back yard in Central Asia to American forces to provide logistical support of the operation the USA would launch against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

    Unfortunately, Putin’s hopes for reciprocal warming of relations and integration were rejected. At this time Washington considered Russia to be a country in long-term decline and a marginal power. In 2002, the United States withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, one of the first landmark arms limitation treaties dating from 1972, showing its disregard for Russian interest in stability and transparency, and pursuing a policy of altering the strategic balance of power in its favor. Following this, we see the progressive deterioration of relations between Russia and the West that has lasted up to the present. Following this, we see the development by Russia of new weapons systems called “asymmetrical” using state of the art technologies that Putin finally spoke about publicly in his speech to the joint houses of the Russian parliament on 1 March 2018. He said then with perfect clarity, but in calm and nonthreatening language that these arms could penetrate everything that the United States had put in place to assure for itself the possibility of a decapitating first nuclear strike. He reclaimed for Russia full strategic parity with the United States, and, of course, with NATO, despite Russia’s having a military budget that is 12 time smaller than America’s.

    Putin’s speech of 1 March 2018 was addressed to his people in the midst of a presidential election campaign. It was also addressed to America’s political classes and military. Regrettably, it did not speak to the American or European peoples as bluntly as Khrushchev had once done. And so we were allowed to slumber on.

    Today, we the people tend to ignore the fact that Russia is the only country in the world capable of reducing the United States and/or Europe to ashes within 30 minutes. We lack any sense of the risks of war that arise from the operations of our military forces in close proximity with Russian and their proxy forces in Syria, in Ukraine…and possibly soon in Venezuela. This, under conditions of near absence of reliable communications between our civilian and military leaderships and total lack of mutual trust between all parties.

    During the original Cold War, there was some limited time during which false alarms of attack by intercontinental ballistic missiles or bombers might be sorted out. Today there may be 15 minutes between alarm and incoming total destruction. Anticipating the possibility of a first strike decapitating the national leadership, response launches have been automated and function on the “dead hand” principle. In effect, the Doomsday scenario described so brilliantly by Stanley Kubrik in his ‘60s film Dr. Strangelove has become operative here and now, though the public has not a clue.

    That, my friends, is the reason I say Vladimir Putin has done his and our people a disservice by not engaging in public diplomacy with the American and European peoples, by not scaring us properly so that we can come to our wits and compel our politicians and media to do likewise.

    Gilbert Doctorow is a Brussels-based political analyst. His latest book Does Russia Have a Future? was published in August 2017. Reprinted with permission from his blog.

    © Gilbert Doctorow, 2018

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    Offline songbird

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    Re: Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
    « Reply #1 on: February 03, 2019, 08:44:19 AM »
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  • Russia is not converted.  I don't trust Putin or Our Gov't.  We shook hands with Moscow and Bolshivek  Communism is what it is.  Just like Europe in the 30's 40's, Russia is called on by countries for help.  Russia does and takes over.  My ancestors were known to say:  Russia may come off looking nice, but they will stab you in the back.  I still believe this.


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    Re: Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
    « Reply #2 on: February 03, 2019, 04:34:45 PM »
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  • Russia is not converted.  I don't trust Putin or Our Gov't.  We shook hands with Moscow and Bolshivek  Communism is what it is.  Just like Europe in the 30's 40's, Russia is called on by countries for help.  Russia does and takes over.  My ancestors were known to say:  Russia may come off looking nice, but they will stab you in the back.  I still believe this.
    When someone fails to use her wits and senses to acquire information and instead relies upon outdated, baseless prejudice to shape her perceptions, it's hardly surprising that she would write something so ill informed.

    The Soviet Union was a Jewish creation, not a Russian one. Since the late eighties, the Russians have largely freed themselves from their former total domination by international Jewry. What a contrast with the USA and the once-Christian nations of Europe—not to mention the conciliar church—which are now firmly in the grasp of the evil Tribe!

    The sad fact is that Putin's Russia now represents the best hope for peace in the world. Indeed, it is the only such hope.

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    Re: Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
    « Reply #3 on: February 03, 2019, 08:40:53 PM »
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  • Darn... another "embarrassing photo" :facepalm:


    Putin pays homage to Zionist Holocaustianity by laying a
    wreath at Israel's Yad Vashem shrine.
    (Dedicated to the 6 million souls said to be murdered by the Nazis).
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
    « Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 10:35:18 PM »
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  • "Peace" belongs to Our Lady!  She made that known, Universal!


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    Re: Vladimir Putin to the West: 'We Will Bury You!"
    « Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 11:50:30 AM »
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  • Actually hopefully he will. The western world is a complete mess.

    Commentary on the recent suspension of the INF treaty by the USA:

    With the INF treaty all but dead, one Russian paper warns of “a situation even more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis.” And the government paper says it “cannot exclude” Russia deploying a “100 megaton nuclear...Doomsday weapon” off the US coast. #ReadingRussia pic.twitter.com/iJxOXpXWmE
    — Steve Rosenberg (@BBCSteveR) February 4, 2019

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    “If the Americans deploy their new missiles near Russia’s borders, and in response we deploy ours, then, of course, the risk of [nuclear] conflict rises sharply,” an arms control expert told one paper.

     “If US missiles are deployed in Poland or the Baltic states, they’ll be able to reach Russia in minutes. In such an event, the way Russia currently conceives using nuclear weapons, as a retaliatory strike, becomes impossible, since there won’t be time to work out which missiles have been launched against Russia, what their trajectory and their targets are,” he continued.

    “This is why there is now a temptation for both us and for them to adopt the doctrine of a preemptive strike.”

    For those who missed it, a preemptive strike is sending a nuke over without provocation or at just a sign that there might be conflict. The arms expert also declared that with the INF officially dead, the U.S. and Russian will have to consider nuking each other first (preemptive strike) because missile attacks won’t be as predictable as longer-range salvos from the continental U.S. and Russia’s mainland.

    Russian media threatened to use a doomsday device that would trigger a devastating tsunami causing widespread death and destruction to coastlines.

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    “It cannot be excluded that one of the Poseidon with a 100 megaton nuclear warhead will lay low off the U.S. coast, becoming ‘the doomsday weapon.‘ Thus an attack on Russia will become a suicidal misadventure,” the paper states.

     

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