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Offline angelusmaria

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Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
« on: December 10, 2022, 05:57:08 PM »
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  • The perspective given from an imprisoned Russian in America, on the current state of affairs and Decline (He calls it ѕυιcιdє) of the West.  He touches on a lot of topics, you'll want to see this one.


    https://rumble.com/v1zzk6w-viktor-bout-back-home-from-imprisonment-rt-exclusive.html

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    Offline Meg

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #1 on: December 12, 2022, 11:14:30 AM »
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  • I found this to be an interesting interview. Viktor Bout is more thoughtful and reflective than I thought he would be (given that he's a convicted arms dealer). He said that his religion requires forgiveness (regarding his incarceration). I found that quite insightful, though he doesn't mention religion beyond that.

    He is also supportive of the Russian attacks on Ukraine, saying that it should have been done back in 2014, due to the persecution of Russians in Donbas.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #2 on: December 12, 2022, 05:51:41 PM »
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  • i was fairly impressed with him
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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #3 on: December 12, 2022, 06:31:16 PM »
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  • What a tragedy.

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2022, 05:45:34 AM »
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  • Tragedy?
    Not at all- "We The People" got the dyke pothead icon back, and that's all that matters.

    V. Putin must still be laughing over this trade.. Too easy!


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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2022, 07:09:35 AM »
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  • Tragedy?
    Not at all- "We The People" got the dyke pothead icon back, and that's all that matters.

    V. Putin must still be laughing over this trade.. Too easy!
    I tend to think that rather, Putin must be saddened and very concerned over it.  I think he'd rather see a sane, cooperative and mutually respectful America than a failed state that endangers the world.
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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2022, 05:02:29 PM »
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  • I tend to think that rather, Putin must be saddened and very concerned over it.  I think he'd rather see a sane, cooperative and mutually respectful America than a failed state that endangers the world.
    You only say that because Putin is actually a statesman and well, Biden is -  - Biden.  And we are doomed.  Sad part is, in my lifetime my country went from an honorable country and then declined into a tantrum throwing baby of a joke of a country. 

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2022, 05:14:49 PM »
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  • Putin, saddened? This is a man who αssαssιnαtҽs and imprisons his political opponents. He can do what he needs to do for power. More people should read or listen to his more incendiary public statements on what he is willing to do to America.


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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #8 on: December 15, 2022, 08:28:44 PM »
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  • Putin, saddened? This is a man who αssαssιnαtҽs and imprisons his political opponents. He can do what he needs to do for power. More people should read or listen to his more incendiary public statements on what he is willing to do to America.

    Perhaps nothing compared to what God Almighty is willing to do to not only America, but the whole world.

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #9 on: December 16, 2022, 11:21:22 AM »
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  • Perhaps nothing compared to what God Almighty is willing to do to not only America, but the whole world.
    So nihilism is it? 

    No call for penance and amendment, just open support for a non-Catholic ruler to establish an empire on the burned out ashes of your own people.
    If the world is against the Truth, then I am against the World. - St. Athanasius
    In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas - St. Augistine

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #10 on: December 16, 2022, 02:14:35 PM »
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  • So nihilism is it?

    No call for penance and amendment, just open support for a non-Catholic ruler to establish an empire on the burned out ashes of your own people.
    Wrong, wrong, wrong!  Try again.


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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #11 on: December 16, 2022, 02:41:39 PM »
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  • Wrong, wrong, wrong!  Try again.
    No, he's correct. You should pray that America and Russia are both converted and the Faith restored. Wishing for the destruction of everything through World War III is akin to nihilism. Catholics have historically fought even against overwhelming odds and won through the grace of God.

    If there were more Charity in the world then this time wouldn't be necessary.

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #12 on: December 16, 2022, 03:06:04 PM »
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  • You should pray that America and Russia are both converted and the Faith restored.
    In my mind, this sentence is the best resolution in answer to all the Russia/American arguments on the forum recently.

    Whether people prefer the U.S. or Russia... 

    Both countries have their faults and we should pray for the conversions of both countries.

      

    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #13 on: December 16, 2022, 05:03:24 PM »
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  • No, he's correct. You should pray that America and Russia are both converted and the Faith restored. Wishing for the destruction of everything through World War III is akin to nihilism. Catholics have historically fought even against overwhelming odds and won through the grace of God.

    If there were more Charity in the world then this time wouldn't be necessary.
    This is just nuts.  I stated "Perhaps nothing compared to what God Almighty is willing to do to not only America, but the whole world."

    From there you are agreeing with Marius' response: "So nihilism is it? No call for penance and amendment, just open support for a non-Catholic ruler to establish an empire on the burned out ashes of your own people."  Wow, talk about a rash and utterly false judgment based on an outright ignorance of who I am.  Marius has interpreted my statement in a completely wrong way. 

     I wonder what he would have told Noah if he ever heard Noah telling people that God was willing to flood the whole world!

    For the record I have never been nor by the grace of God will I ever be anything even approaching a nihilist!

    And then you get up on your pedestal and preach to me by telling me I should "pray that America and Russia are both converted and the Faith restored."  Little do you know that that is what I have been doing for over 30 years!

    But then it gets even crazier if that be possible.  You have the gall to imply that I am wishing "for the destruction of everything through World War III."  You are utterly 100% wrong!








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    Re: Viktor Bout: Back home from imprisonment | RT exclusive
    « Reply #14 on: December 16, 2022, 05:15:46 PM »
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  • Little do you know that that is what I have been doing for over 30 years!
    Ok, great. Let's see an end to the non-stop Russian propaganda and panegyrics. Otherwise people might be confused at your desired outcome.