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Offline Cantarella

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Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
« on: May 14, 2015, 12:06:17 AM »
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  • VATICAN CITY (AP) -- The Vatican officially recognized the state of Palestine in a new treaty finalized Wednesday, immediately sparking Israeli ire and accusations that the move hurt peace prospects.

    The treaty, which concerns the activities of the Catholic Church in Palestinian territory, is both deeply symbolic and makes explicit that the Holy See has switched its diplomatic recognition from the Palestine Liberation Organization to the state of Palestine.

    The Vatican had welcomed the decision by the U.N. General Assembly in 2012 to recognize a Palestinian state and had referred to the Palestine state since. But the treaty is the first legal docuмent negotiated between the Holy See and the Palestinian state, giving the Vatican's former signs of recognition an unambiguous confirmation in a formal, bilateral treaty.

    "Yes, it's a recognition that the state exists," said the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi.

    The Israeli Foreign Ministry said it was "disappointed."

    "This move does not promote the peace process and distances the Palestinian leadership from returning to direct and bilateral negotiations," the ministry said in a text message.

    The United States and Israel oppose recognition, arguing that it undermines U.S.-led efforts to negotiate an Israeli-Palestinian deal on the terms of Palestinian statehood. Most countries in Western Europe have held off on recognition, but some have hinted that their position could change if peace efforts remain deadlocked.

    The treaty was finalized days before Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visits Pope Francis at the Vatican. Abbas is heading to Rome to attend Francis' canonization Sunday of two new saints from the Holy Land.

    "This is a very important recognition as the Vatican has a very important political status that stems from its spiritual status," said Abbas' senior aide, Nabil Shaath. "We expect more EU countries to follow."

    The Vatican has been referring unofficially to the state of Palestine since 2012.

    During Pope Francis' 2014 visit to the Holy Land, the Vatican's official program referred to Abbas as the president of the "state of Palestine."

    The Vatican's foreign minister, Monsignor Antoine Camilleri, acknowledged the change in status, but said the shift was simply in line with the Holy See's position.

    The Holy See clearly tried to underplay the development, suggesting that its 2012 press statement welcoming the U.N. vote constituted its first official recognition. Nowhere in that statement does the Vatican say it recognizes the state of Palestine, and the Holy See couldn't vote for the U.N. resolution because it doesn't have voting rights at the General Assembly.

    The Vatican's efforts to downplay the move seemed justified given the swift condemnation of the development by Israeli groups: The American Jєωιѕн Committee said it was "counterproductive to all who seek true peace between Israel and the Palestinians." The Anti-Defamation League said it was "premature."

    "We appreciate that the Vatican's basic intention is to promote Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation, but believe that this diplomatic recognition will be unhelpful to that end," the ADL's Abraham Foxman said.

    The 2012 U.N. vote recognized Palestine as a non-member observer state, made up of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, lands Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war.

    The Palestinians celebrated the vote as a milestone in their quest for international recognition. Most countries in Africa, Asia and South America have individually recognized Palestine. In Western Europe, Sweden took the step last year, while several parliaments have approved non-binding motions urging recognition.

    This isn't the first time that the Vatican under Francis has taken diplomatic moves knowing that it would please some quarters and ruffle feathers elsewhere: Just last month, he referred to the slaughter of Armenians by Turkish Ottomans a century ago as a "genocide," prompting Turkey to recall its ambassador.
     
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_PALESTINIAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-13-09-43-08
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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 12:08:53 AM »
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  • This is from Jihad Watch:

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    This is part of the ongoing pressure upon Israel to create one. Creating one will be a great victory for the global jihad force, as a “State of Palestine” will inevitably be a new jihad base for renewed attacks against what remains of Israel. Events will unfold just as they did when the Israelis withdrew from Gaza: while the international media hailed a new era of peace, the “Palestinians” gutted installations and prepared for jihad.

    This recognition could end up being as large a blot on the Catholic Church’s record as the Inquisition and the many Catholic clerics all over Europe who went along with the nαzι program against Jєωs during World War II. The “Palestinians” make no secret on official PA TV of the fact that they share that same genocidal antisemitic bloodlust. This recognition only validates that bloodlust, and enables it.


    What think you?
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #2 on: May 14, 2015, 07:57:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: Cantarella
    This is from Jihad Watch:

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    This is part of the ongoing pressure upon Israel to create one. Creating one will be a great victory for the global jihad force, as a “State of Palestine” will inevitably be a new jihad base for renewed attacks against what remains of Israel. Events will unfold just as they did when the Israelis withdrew from Gaza: while the international media hailed a new era of peace, the “Palestinians” gutted installations and prepared for jihad.

    This recognition could end up being as large a blot on the Catholic Church’s record as the Inquisition and the many Catholic clerics all over Europe who went along with the nαzι program against Jєωs during World War II. The “Palestinians” make no secret on official PA TV of the fact that they share that same genocidal antisemitic bloodlust. This recognition only validates that bloodlust, and enables it.


    What think you?


    I think that any seeming show of opposition to the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan by the Nostra Aetatites is merely a controlled opposition, orchestrated by their Jєωιѕн masters for their own ends, irrespective of what the shrill, panicky neocon Zionist retards at "Jihad Watch" might think.

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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 09:14:19 AM »
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  • All these things must take place if Our Lord is to return. Prophesy being fulfilled to me. It seems dangerous.

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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #4 on: May 14, 2015, 02:49:27 PM »
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  • The following response sounds like a creepy, veiled threat to me:

    "An Israeli foreign ministry official described the Vatican's move as a "disappointment" and indicated that it may lead to reprisals, although he did not say of what kind.
     "This does not promote the peace process and a Palestinian return to negotiations," the official said. "Israel will study the agreement and consider its next steps accordingly."
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/14/us-mideast-vatican-palestine-idUSKBN0NZ1CU20150514


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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #5 on: May 14, 2015, 03:58:46 PM »
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  • In some ways I have respect for Jihadist Muslims even though I know they are in a false religion and that all of them will be damned. But I have no respect at all for non-Jєωs who are Zionist stooges.
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    « Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 09:24:43 AM »
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  • http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/the-vatican-and-the-palestinians.html?_r=0

    Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, was less restrained, telling The Washington Post the treaty represents a resurgence of the “historical Catholic enmity towards Jєωs.”

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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 01:38:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: snowball
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/the-vatican-and-the-palestinians.html?_r=0

    Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, was less restrained, telling The Washington Post the treaty represents a resurgence of the “historical Catholic enmity towards Jєωs.”


    Well, that's just a damned shame, isn't it? Who cares what Klein the Clown thinks, anyway?
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    Vatican Officially Recognizes State of Palestine
    « Reply #8 on: May 15, 2015, 01:54:51 PM »
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    Well, that's just a damned shame, isn't it? Who cares what Klein the Clown thinks, anyway?


    Krusty the Klein  :clown:
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