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Even the reporter was laughing at him.

I'm convinced that Putin, and the United Russia Party generally, are doing what they are doing for one reason:  domestic power.  Putin doesn't really care about Crimea, South Ossetia, or any of the other areas under Russian occupation; they are insignificant.  Nor did he really care about public morals when he passed the anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ laws.  But the West cares, and the Russian people are fed up with the West.  So, the more Putin thumbs his nose at the United States and the EU, with no real retaliation, the more popular and powerful he becomes domestically.  That is really what he is after.

Yeah that makes no sense.  You're basically saying that Russia doesn't care about the ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine and that they don't care about their navy base in Crimea.  Not every government in the world cynically hates (and fears them see :NSA) their own people, I know it's like that in America but the USA isn't the rest of world.

Below is a great example of Americanism in action, the more ignorant they are about a subject matter the more that want to be involved and speak their mind about it.  That is to say that Americans love giving opinions about things they know nothing about.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/

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Russia:  Speaker of the House Threatens to Destroy the World Using Secret WMD

 
[He gets hot at 2:40+]


Uploaded on May 15, 2011

In this speech by the Russian Speaker of the House you will find two interesting points.

1. Russia plans to setup an Eastern Block Union similar to the EU (remember the old USSR?)

2. Russian has silent secret weapons capable of destroying nations within 15 minutes... It sounds like HAARP to me...

"WTF?" you say? The first 90 seconds of this interview lay the foundation for Russia's feelings towards Georgia. In the last 90 seconds the House Speaker says this:..

[2:00] "Washington has no future, this artificial state will collapse; then the old Europe, that continent, which has no importance whatsoever; China is on the verge of explosion; and what remains is Russia possessing orbital launch capability: space power. Russia with lots of money, resources, and new weapons, that no one knows about them yet. With them WE WILL DESTROY any part of the planet within 15 minutes. Not an explosion, not a ray burst, not some kind of a laser, not a lightning, no, but a quiet and peaceful weapon. ["but a calm and quiet weapon instead"]  Whole continents will be put to sleep forever. And that's all. You will have to dig in the wreckage and debris of your buildings. [2:40] And all of you 120 million will die, if you will ever demand the Kuriles from us! So goes for the rest of the world. Everybody should think about their future. About the future of everyone, you all should start thinking."

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Quote from: Dolores

Even the reporter was laughing at him.

If he had quoted Our Lady of Fatima -- that Russia would become the instrument to chastize the whole world if the Pope and bishops do not consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart -- what do you think the reporter would have done then?  

She would have laughed at him, that's what the reporter would have done.


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Wild, nonsensical speculation about about something totally off-point.  Yep, it's Neil!

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Quote from: Dolores

Even the reporter was laughing at him.

I'm convinced that Putin, and the United Russia Party generally, are doing what they are doing for one reason:  domestic power.  Putin doesn't really care about Crimea, South Ossetia, or any of the other areas under Russian occupation; they are insignificant.  Nor did he really care about public morals when he passed the anti-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ laws.  But the West cares, and the Russian people are fed up with the West.  So, the more Putin thumbs his nose at the United States and the EU, with no real retaliation, the more popular and powerful he becomes domestically.  That is really what he is after.

Yeah that makes no sense.  You're basically saying that Russia doesn't care about the ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine and that they don't care about their navy base in Crimea.  Not every government in the world cynically hates (and fears them see :NSA) their own people, I know it's like that in America but the USA isn't the rest of world.

Below is a great example of Americanism in action, the more ignorant they are about a subject matter the more that want to be involved and speak their mind about it.  That is to say that Americans love giving opinions about things they know nothing about.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/

I'm not saying Russia doesn't care about ethnic Russians, I'm saying Putin doesn't care about them.  All that man cares about is power.

I also very much doubt that Putin cares very much about the naval base in Crimea.  Russia has two other major port cities on the Black Sea that could easily house its fleet.

Lastly, if you don't think the Russian government does to its citizens what the American government does, you are the ignorant one.

To be clear, I don't think the United States has any business getting involved in Ukraine.  I just don't understand the fascination some trads have with Putin.  He is a power-hungry, cutthroat politician, no better than like any other.

Well, Pat Buchanan says your wrong about Putin.  Is he ignorant too?

http://buchanan.org/blog/whose-side-god-now-6337

In his Kremlin defense of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.

Crimea, said Putin, “is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.”

Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying.

This speech recalls last December’s address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:

“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”

Heard any Western leader, say, Barack Obama, talk like that lately?

Indicting the “Bolsheviks” who gave away Crimea to Ukraine, Putin declared, “May God judge them.”

What is going on here?

With Marxism-Leninism a dead faith, Putin is saying the new ideological struggle is between a debauched West led by the United States and a traditionalist world Russia would be proud to lead.

In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God’s side. The West is Gomorrah.

Western leaders who compare Putin’s annexation of Crimea to Hitler’s Anschluss with Austria, who dismiss him as a “KGB thug,” who call him “the alleged thief, liar and murderer who rules Russia,” as the Wall Street Journal’s Holman Jenkins did, believe Putin’s claim to stand on higher moral ground is beyond blasphemous.

But Vladimir Putin knows exactly what he is doing, and his new claim has a venerable lineage. The ex-Communist Whittaker Chambers who exposed Alger Hiss as a Soviet spy, was, at the time of his death in 1964, writing a book on “The Third Rome.”

The first Rome was the Holy City and seat of Christianity that fell to Odoacer and his barbarians in 476 A.D. The second Rome was Constantinople, Byzantium, (today’s Istanbul), which fell to the Turks in 1453. The successor city to Byzantium, the Third Rome, the last Rome to the old believers, was — Moscow.

Putin is entering a claim that Moscow is the Godly City of today and command post of the counter-reformation against the new paganism.

Putin is plugging into some of the modern world’s most powerful currents.

Not only in his defiance of what much of the world sees as America’s arrogant drive for global hegemony. Not only in his tribal defense of lost Russians left behind when the USSR disintegrated.

He is also tapping into the worldwide revulsion of and resistance to the sewage of a hedonistic secular and social revolution coming out of the West.

In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia’s flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity. His recent speeches carry echoes of John Paul II whose Evangelium Vitae in 1995 excoriated the West for its embrace of a “culture of death.”

What did Pope John Paul mean by moral crimes?

The West’s capitulation to a sɛҳuąƖ revolution of easy divorce, rampant promiscuity, pornography, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, feminism, abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, assisted ѕυιcιdє — the displacement of Christian values by Hollywood values.

Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum writes that she was stunned when in Tbilisi to hear a Georgian lawyer declare of the former pro-Western regime of Mikhail Saakashvili, “They were LGBT.”

“It was an eye-opening moment,” wrote Applebaum. Fear and loathing of the same-sex-marriage pandemic has gone global. In Paris, a million-man Moral Majority marched in angry protest.

Author Masha Gessen, who has written a book on Putin, says of his last two years, “Russia is remaking itself as the leader of the anti-Western world.”

But the war to be waged with the West is not with rockets. It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia’s role, in Putin’s words, is to “prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state.”

Would that be the “chaotic darkness” and “primitive state” of mankind, before the Light came into the world?

This writer was startled to read in the Jan-Feb. newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the “ten best trends” in the world in 2013, number one was “Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader.”

In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.

“While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view,” writes WCF’s Allan Carlson, “Russia is defending ʝʊdɛօ-Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12.”

Will Vladimir Putin give the keynote?

In the new ideological Cold War, whose side is God on now?

It's scary to think of the possibility that there IS no "right side" here. The Russian machine for years and years has been propaganda. And Sister Lucia saying that "Russia will spread her errors," makes me think that the deal is already done. We just have to wait for the Father to exact punishment when HE wants to do it. And, I think the severest part of it is going to be exacted by Russia.

It's always weird to hear people talk about Russian propaganda, especially Americans who live under a constant propaganda assault daily, I could say it's the pot calling the kettle black but that's really accurate, it's more like the elephant calling the mouse fat in this situation.  The American propaganda matrix is so large and all encompassing that people can't even see it, and American propaganda matrix infects the entire world, were Russia has very little effect compared.  If anyone is spreading their errors it's America.  If anyone is invading other nations, it's America.  If anyone is a force of chaos in the world, it's America.  The majority of the world's revolutions and protests are ran out of Washington.  I sometimes wonder if hypocrisy or delusion is now a defining American trait.