Quote from: rowsofvoices9

What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.

I knew it when I read the first line : " In my humble and pious opinion as a faithful Roman Catholic theologian, the following claims of private revelation..." - Ron Conte. He is anything but... He wouldn't know a false prophet anymore than anyone else.

He ought to list himself as a false prophet. He's made more than one prediction that hasn't come true. The "warning and the miracle" has been predicted more than 3 times in successive years. He claims he is humble and pious and is neither. He bases just about everything on Medjugorje , that satanic cult following "apparition" that is uncatholic is almost every way.
So, take this loser with a grain of salt.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/blog.cfm?id=331

http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2008/07/medjugorje-prognostications.html


 

I admit I agree completely with your assessment of Ronald Conte.  He says a lot of really goofy stuff and he also promotes apparitions that have been condemned.  However, I cannot find any information that states affirmatively that the Church has ever given any recognition to the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  There is a brief statement on Wikipedia indicating that these prophecies have never received approval by the Church.  There are plenty of private revelations from approved sources that speak about Western Europe being invaded by both the Russians and Muslims and the three days of darkness which brings the minor chastisement to an end.  There is no reason to pay any heed to dubious prophecies such as these.  I suggest you read the book "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch if you are interested in knowing possible future events.  At least Mr. Birch only uses throughly approved messages.    I only mention this because it can be sinful to promote condemned apparitions and private revelations.  

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm

It is forbidden, as well as sinful, to propagate private revelations which have received a negative judgement from the local Bishop, the conference of Bishops, or the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Some people say, "I’m going to follow it until the Pope says it’s false." This is a useless guide for action in this matter - very rarely does the Pope make a pronouncement for or against a revelation.

Quote from: Rowsofvoices9

What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?

As far as I know there's no Church's official stand on the visions of Alois Irlmaier, because they've never been examined before the Church fell into paralysis mode due to Vatican II.

What Irlmaier foresaw are no private revelations in a strict sense but "just" pictures i.e. visions. I'm sure they're from above but I can't quote an official Church stand, just some traditional priests' judgement.

I don't know the website or authors' names you quoted. If they claim the Church had examined Alois Irlmaier's visions I'd be surprised and interested to see their proof.

You can always take Irlmaier's timetable and compare it to our time and its signs with your reason. Step 1 to 4 came to pass "successfully" and clearly we're in the middle of step 5 right now. I've no doubt that steps 6 and 7 will come to pass, too. But there's no need to convince anybody with Irlmaier. We will see soon for ourselves.

Ethelred,  

  Would it be wrong to say the church has never made a pronoucement on Irlmaier's predictions because they were never about the church per se but about major war situations?

Thank you for sharing this, very insightful.

In one of my previous posts I linked to the website http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm.  Once again I apologize for this.  

Although there is some useful information contained on this website, there is also a lot that that is downright wrong and dangerous for those new to Catholic tradition.   The sections on the New Mass and Vatican II are highly problematical.  Among the most glaring errors suggested is that Paul VI had no right to reform the Sacraments and by doing so they were rendered illicit and of doubtful validity.   This is just one example of the many errors, there are a lot more.  The opinions expressed in many of the articles tends to foster a schismatic attitude which could cause some to separate themselves from the Church.

BTW, I'm still having a problem believing these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  I'm going to stick to the ones that have received full approval from the Church.

Interesting perspective.

Just a thought: it seems to be a recurring notion of the Pope having to flee Rome and take refuge somewhere in the Americas.  I wouldn't get too wrapped up in this since 'across the sea' could mean Nome, Alaska or Tierra del Fuego- or Long Beach Island, New Jersey.

If I had to make a snap guess, the Great Monarch will be an American of French and German ancestry.  We know that as a boy he will have been a great sinner but latter embraces the Faith and performs many penances.  Clearly, he will be able to lead armies in strange areas.  

Implicit in this is that he will be one of the few Catholics remaining loyal to the old rites and the spirit of the Faith as it always was.  Probably, he is hidden from the world, more or less.  And we can speculate from here.

The most important thing each of us can do is have a well-ordered Catholic life, remain in a state of grace, and know that for each of us the End might well come like a thief in the night.

As long as we are leading proper Catholic lives, which is not easy by any stretch, all things will order themselves.

Bumping this thread...for the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.

In the meantime .........  https://twitter.com/AloisIrlmaier

Here's an obscure point Ethered uncovered, which is unfolding now, right before our eyes:


Alois told to a young woman in the 1950'ies who, however only passed it on in 1992. It's from the book on page 90, translated by an Internet-translator-website and me:

Girl, you will experience the great change that is about to come:

• 1.First, a prosperity like never comes.
• 2. Then an apostasy follows as never before.
• 3. Then an unprecedented moral depravity.
• 4. Then a large number of strangers come into the country.
• 5. There is high inflation.
• 6. The money will lose more and more value.
• 7. Soon afterwards follows the Revolution.
• 8. Then the Russians invade the West overnight

This is what Irlmaier said:

“Everything calls peace, Shalom! Then it will occur – a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostility in the Mediterranean – the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a “large one” falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him – then impact is on impact. …”

The US is brokering a " Deal of the Century" supposedly for the good of the Palestinians ....

This is what RT said today:



Hope Irlmaier doesn't turn out to be right!