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Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Matthew on October 01, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Taken from another thread:


The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier (1894-1959)

The visions or dreams of Alois Irlmaier were after World War II.

 
On this page statements of Alois Irlmaier are listed, which refer to a big war in the future. Conrad Adlmaier got these statements when discussing with Alois Irlmaier and published them later. In addition also statements are listed, which Conrad Adlmaier did not publish in his books, but indicated to a third person orally. In these statements Alois Irlmaier shows an almost precise description of a large battle in the future.

"Everything calls peace, Schalom! Then it will occur - a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostiley in the Mediterranean - the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a "large one" falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him - then impact is on impact. ..."

I see three spearheads coming ... Immediately the revenge comes from across the large water. However the yellow dragon invade in Alaska and Canada at the same time. But he comes not far..."

" I see the earth like a ball before me, on whom now the white pigeons fly near, a very large number coming up from the sand. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line. When the golden city is destroyed, it begins. Like a yellow line it goes up to the city in the bay. It will be a clear night, when they begin to throw it. The tanks are still driving, but those who sit in these tanks became quite black. Where it falls down, everything will be dead, no tree, no bush, no cattle, no grass, this becomes withered and black. The houses still exist. I don't know, what it is and so I cannot tell it. It is a long line. Who goes over this line, dies. The ones, who are on the one side cannot go over to the other side. Then everything at the spearheads breaks down. They all must go to the north. What they have with them, they throw away. Nobody will come back anymore... "

"The airplanes drop a yellow powder between the Black Sea and the North Sea. Thus a death strip is created, straight from the Black Sea to the North Sea, as wide as half Bavaria. In this zone no more grass can grow, let alone humans live. The Russian supply is interrupted... "

"Swarms of pigeons ascend from the sand. Two herds achieve the combat area from the west to southwest... The squadrons turn towards the north and cut off the course of the third army. From the east there are many caterpillars. But in the caterpillars everybody is already dead, although the vehicles keep rolling on, in order to gradually stop automatic. Here, the pilots also throw off their small black boxes. They do explode, before they touch the soil, and spread a yellow or green smoke or dust. What comes in contact with this becomes dead, whether it is a human, an animal or a plant. For one year no organism is allowed to enter this area, otherwise it will expose itself to the largest mortal danger. At the Rhine the attack is finally repelled. From the three spearheads no soldier will come home anymore... "

"These boxes are satanic. When they explode, a yellow and green dust or smoke arises, everything that comes in contact to it, is dead, it is a human, an animal or a plant. The humans become quite black and the meat fall off their bones, so sharply is the poison."

"... By a natural catastrophe or something similar the Russians suddenly evade to the north. Around Cologne the last battle has started. ..."

"... At the Rhine I see a half-moon, which wants to devour everything. [The cresent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is on the flags of several Islamic countries including: Algeria, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, and Turkey.] The horns of the sickle want to close. What this means, I do not know. ..."

"Then they are flying to the north. In the center there is a mark, there lives nothing anymore, no human, no animal, no grass. They fly to the quite north, where the third spearhead had come in, and do cut off everything. So they will all be murdered, nobody from these three armies will come back home anymore. ...But then I see someone flying, coming from the east, who drops something into the large water, so that something strange will happen. The water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down, then everything is inundated (flooded). There is an earthquake and the half of the big island will sink. The whole action will not last long, I see three lines - three days, three weeks, three months, I don't know exactly, but it won't last long!"

"A single airplane, which comes from the east, throws something into the large water. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. Everything is inundated. There is an earthquake. The southern part of England slips into the water. Three large cities will be ruined: one will be destroyed by the water, the second is located so high in the Sea, that you can only see the church tower and the third falls in."

"One part of England disappears, when the thing falls into the sea, which the pilot drops. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. What this thing is, I do not know..."

"The countries at the sea are endangered of the water heavily, the sea is very unrest, the waves go high as a house; it foams, as if it would cook/boil in the underground. Islands disappear, and the climate changes. A part of the proud island sinks, if the thing falls into the sea, which the pilot drops. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. What this thing is, I do not know. When it comes, I do not know."

"The January will be so warm at some time that the mosquitos will dance. It can be that we already come into a time, when there won't be a normal winter at all, like we do know him now."

"...During the war the big darkness comes, which lasts 72 hours." "It will become dark at a day during the war. Then a hail impact, consisting of lightning and thunder, breaks out and an earthquake vibrates the earth. Please do not go out of the house at that time. The lights do not burn, except candle light, the current stops. Who inhales the dust, gets a cramp and dies. Do not open the windows, cover it completely with black paper. All open-standing water become poisonous and also all open-standing meals, which are not in locked doses. Also no meals in glasses, because they would not cover it up completely. Outside the death by dust goes around, many humans die. After 72 hours everything is over. But again: Do not go out of the house, do not look out of the windows, and keep the candle light burning. And pray. Overnight there will die more humans than in the two world wars before."

"...Do not open a window during during the 72 hours. The rivers will have so few water that you can easily pass them. The cattle falls, the grass becomes yellow and dry, the dead humans will become quite yellow and black. The wind drives the clouds of death off to the east."

"...The city with the iron tower becomes the victim of the own people. They ignite everything. Revolution is, and everything is going wildly. The islands before the coast sink, because the water is quite wild. I see large holes in the sea, which will be filled, when the enormous waves return. The beautiful city at the blue sea sinks almost completely in the sea and in the dirt and sand, which the sea ejects. I see three cities sinking in the south, in the northwest and in the west."

"The large city with the high iron tower is on fire. But this has been done by the own people, not by those, which came from the east. And I can exactly see that the city is made equal to the ground. And in Italy it is going wildly too. They kill many people there and the Pope flees, but many clergymen will be killed, many churches collapse. "

"In Russia a revolution breaks out and a cινιℓ ωαr. The corpses are so much that you cannot remove them off the roads anymore. The cross comes to honours anew. The Russian people believe in God anew. The large ones among the party leaders commit ѕυιcιdє and in the blood the great gulity is washed off. I see a red mass, mixed with yellow faces, it is a general riot and horrable killing. Then they sing the Easter song and burn candles in front of sacral pictures. By the prayer of the Christianity the monster of hell dies; also the young people believe anew in the intercession of the God's mother."

"After the victory an emperor is crowned by the fleeing Pope. How long all this lasts, I do not know. I see three nines. The third nine brings the peace. If everything is over, a part of the inhabitants have died, and the people are frightened of God anew. The laws, which bring death to the children, become invalid after the clearing. Then peace will be. A good time. I see three crowns flashing, and a gaunt old man will be our King. Also the very old crown in the south comes to honours again."

"The Pope, who had not to flee across the water for a long period of time, returns. When the flowers bloom on the meadows, he will return and mourn for his murdered brothers."

" . . .After these events a long, lucky time comes. Those, who will experience it, will be very happy and can praise themselves lucky. But the people have to begin there, where their grandfathers began."
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Roman Catholic on October 07, 2011, 10:52:39 PM
Ethelred,

I am mildly interested in hearing a bit more about Alois Irlmaier. I had never heard of him before seeing a post you made recently.

Where did he reside post WWII, was he a practicing Catholic in good stead with the Church and local clergy? When he was alive did the Church know he was prophesying, and if so what was the Church’s reaction?

Is there a bio or autobio in English on Alois?

BTW, how was Conrad related to him?   
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 09, 2011, 09:35:27 AM
Roman Catholic, I'm going to try to answer your questions soon.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Roman Catholic on October 09, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
Thank you, Ethelred.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 18, 2011, 07:21:54 AM
This is really interesting. I can't seem to find any information on this guy anywhere! Is he a Catholic? What is the Catholic Church's view on him?

Is he a psychic or a mystic, because there's a big difference. LOL

What he says does line up with dozens of Catholic Prophecies I've read, three days of darkness etc.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 18, 2011, 07:22:51 AM
sorry, I didn't read the above post asking the same questions, more info on him would be greatly appreciated!
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 19, 2011, 04:40:40 AM
Well, difficult topic to discuss in detail in English for me. Let's try to answer some of the above poster's questions. I'm not aware of English books about Irlmaier. I only know a few in German language, and I recommend a newer one available for example at Amazon Germany (http://www.amazon.de/Alois-Irlmaier-Mann-sagt-sieht/dp/3941435019/).
The author is unfortunately not catholic, but very accurate in his investigations and inspection of sources.

My subjective, incomplete and partly maybe incorrect summary is as following. (I re-use some paragraphs which I earlier posted in the threads Elenin, the 3 day darkness comet? (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=16073&min=21) and Great Catholic Monarch Prophecies (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15970&min=12).)



I. The roman-catholic Irlmaier

Alois Irlmaier (1894 - 1959) was a simple roman-catholic craftsman in the province Bavaria (Bayern) in the catholic south of Germany, near to the Austrian border.
One day when he waited in a client's house for his client, Irlmaier watched a drawn picture of Our Lady in the room and suddenly he saw Our Lady leaning out of the picture. "Since then I was a foreseer" Irlmaier said.

Basically he just foresaw things, and so was a visionary. Maybe you could call him a psychic. For example from this moment he also identified water veins wherever he passed them, and so he concentrated his craftsmanship on building wells. This was handy and worked well. He however always kept down to earth and never became wealthy.

So this is not comparable to catholic private appearances, like when Our Lady appears and talks to people like in Fatima. Irlmaier had never obtained messages from heaven but was just a foreseer of events.
That's why the Church didn't officially care or examine his visions, because these were not strictly religious but more practical about what would happen to the people and country around Irlmaier (and sometimes beyond that). With his elder local parish priest he lived in good terms. When Irlmaier was about to die in 1959, three years before Vaticanum II (which Archbishop Lefebvre called the spiritual "Third World War" sometimes), Irlmaier told his then adult children: Stay catholic! For the love of God stay catholic!

That's a wonderful last word, isn't it?
Irlmaier was catholic buried by the parish priest.



II. Legally attested visionary

During his life the people and the press were quite interested in his visions. (In the apostate today they wouldn't. Also most of the modern (SSPX) laity isn't interested anymore in topics like Irlmaier, just the elder ones know him.) Virtually thousands visited Irlmaier. A few times he talked also about USA and Russia, and indeed some US Generals visited him after 1945 in occupied Germany.

This also attracted not so good people who defamed Irlmaier or even published wrong things in his name. So he had several battles in court. One of the most famous one was when he was charged with "illegally telling the fortune for money" and then in court foresaw an event happening at this very moment in the house of the judge. The good point is this way Irlmaier demonstrated his foreseeing competence several times "legally attested" and in front of the public, i.e. his visionary gift was actually true.
But during the years he became tired of the many quarrels and retired from publicly telling his visions.

In the beginning Conrad Adlmaier who run a regional newspaper supported Irlmaier and published several of his visions, but later on they were disunited with each other. Irlmaier said that Adlmaier would be interested in making money with his visions.



III. Smaller and bigger visions

Of Irlmaier's countless smaller visions most already took shape, including him helping the police to solve thefts, murders, missing persons and other things.
During World War II countless mothers visited him to ask if their sons on the front were still alive, and in nearly all cases his "yes" or "no" was accurate. Since there were so many no's to say and seeing the despaired mothers face to face, he finally had to stop with telling them the status of their sons because of his reasons of health.

Irlmaier's biggest vision which he underlined the most was however the very detailed one about a terrible World War III which would be ended by even much more terrible Three Dark Days, and around then a huge sign in the sky in the form of a cross would be visible to all people who then would know what it means and where they stand.

Why should his biggest vision be inaccurate when nearly all of his other foreseen events came true? Also so many other visionaries and foreseers tell basically the same about those Three Dark Days.
Irlmaier also said in detail how to behave during the Three Dark Days, like to seal all windows in the house, and that no natural light would shine (from other foreseers we know: except consecrated candles and similar).



IV. Russian invasion

Since Irlmaier was German his focus was mainly Germany and the countries around it. He foresaw the movements of the Russian invaders and the main battle places. According to Irlmaier the World War III will mainly be happening in central Europe and in Germany in particular, but the Russian invasion would happen with several of their armies attacking in parallel: one moving trough Austria (from Vienna), one coming from Northern Italy to the Alps (Genoa, like St. Pius X. foresaw), and the others Germany.

This is not so different from what we know from East European renegade militaries.

In Germany the entire area northern of the river Donau and eastern of the Rhine would be the main battlefield of the Russian attack... which is the biggest part of the country!

According to Irlmaier the biggest tank battle in this World War III would happen to the right of Cologne with the wonderful catholic cathedral, with another big tank battle happening in Ulm in South Germany with another wonderful catholic cathedral.
Since the German army which today is called Bundeswehr wouldn't generally fight the Russians according to Irlmaier (and indeed the Bundeswehr is basically neutered by now), the South-Germans, Austrians and Swiss would halt the Russians in these tank battles.

Also according to Irlmaier the Russians would drop an atom bomb into the English Channel flooding the southern part of England, parts of Holland and North Germany, etc. See the Russian politician Schirinowski.

One detail I remember is that when the Russians and "the Yellow Dragon" (probably Chinese) attack the USA, according to Irlmaier they would not be very successful. But due to the world war the USA would lose all its military bases in the world and hence become insignificant afterwards.



V. After the war -- Reconquista

According to Irlmaier after the war the remaining Germans and Europeans would be catholic again and good people. Everybody would greet other people with "Praise to Jesus Christus!", like in our former times.
He foresaw the prohibition of democracy (lovely) and the "removal of the law which killed the small children in masses". When he foresaw this nobody could imagine that Germany and virtually all other Western countries would do mass abortions!

Also he foresaw several catholic monarchs coming to power in European countries, and the crowning of a German emperor by the fled pope in a cathedral (very probably Cologne). However, this emperor would be a very humble person wearing Lederhosen (leather trousers) like the Bavarian and Austrian Germans do. So the new catholic monarchs won't be pompous ones.

To a few younger people who are now about 80 years old, Irlmaier told that they would still live when the World War III and the Three Dark Days come. So according to Irlmaier this even won't in 30 years...



VI. Irlmaier's famous timetable from the early 1950's

1. First there's an economic vitality like never before.
2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before.
3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.
4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.
5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.
6. Soon follows the revolution.
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)


In Irlmaier's original German words:

1. Zuerst kommt ein Wohlstand wie noch nie!
2. Dann folgt ein Glaubensabfall wie noch nie zuvor.
3. Darauf eine Sittenverderbnis wie noch nie.
4. Alsdann kommt eine große Zahl fremder Leute ins Land.
5. Es herrscht eine große Inflation. Das Geld verliert mehr und mehr an Wert.
6. Bald darauf folgt die Revolution.
7. Dann überfallen die Russen über Nacht den Westen.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 19, 2011, 08:14:23 AM
That is absolutely fascinating! I really appreciate you  getting the Info on him!

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Catholic Samurai on October 19, 2011, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from: IMPERATOREBT

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.


Actually that's not correct. God promised St.Patrick that He would destroy Ireland 7 years before the antichrist would come. If it does happen now, then we are going to have a very very short triumph.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 20, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: IMPERATOREBT

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.


Actually that's not correct. God promised St.Patrick that He would destroy Ireland 7 years before the antichrist would come. If it does happen now, then we are going to have a very very short triumph.


Indeed Irlmaier foresaw the flooding of just the southern part of England including a  big town (probably London). I re-read his paragraph because in another thread I initially wrongly quoted Irlmaier of having foreseen the flooding of the entire England. But he foresaw the flooding of England's southern part which means the rest would be save including Ireland.


Also Irlmaier foresaw that after World War III and the 72 dark hours there's a huge triumph of Our Lord. He said there would be a period of peace.

This would match pretty well with Fatima. Because Irlmaier also foresaw that ... :
- the Russian invasion would fail in the end because the Russian soldiers who just ravaged Germany and other countries would be frightened by "something" so much that they try to flee northwards in wild panic,
- that their stampede would fail and the invaded people would be so angry that they would strike dead any Russian soldier, so that not a single one would return to Russia,  
- that a "wild Eastern tribe" would raid the unprotected Russia and that the blood of these Russians who stayed at home would compensate for Russia's sins (probably communism?)
- that after the victory the German army would occupy Russia for a short time (one or two years IIRC) and pacify it,
- that Russia would be converted which means become roman-catholic again.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 20, 2011, 06:03:30 AM
From what I've read, that is when the Great Monarch rises and restores order who restores the Holy Roman Empire, is a Frank with the symbol of the Fleur de Lis and fights with the zeal of El Cid. He then marches his armies from the Iberian Peninsula all the way to Russia and converts them along with the Chinese to Roman Catholicism and recaptures Jerusalem.


Is there a rough timeline as to when these things were  to pass? Because I personally think that these things are around the corner.

This war against Iran might push these things into effect. Russia and China have diplomatic and military alliances with Iran and have threatened to retaliate against the West if US NATO/UN and Israel attack Iran.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 20, 2011, 07:52:55 AM
There's a topic about The Great Monarch (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15970) in particular, here on Cathinfo where you can find some interesting texts.

I didn't find anything in Irlmaier's visions about the great monarch who's a French Frank uniting the entire Europe and even recapturing Jerusalem. What you mention sounds like a certain Emperor with divine help at the end of time, whilst Irlmaier foresaw a period which is not the end of time.

Irlmaier foresaw an humble and ordinary German-speaking man coming from Austria (or Bavaria which is NOT Franken) who would be crowned by the pope (so be an emperor or at least a very important king) but wear his national costume Lederhosen! :-)  Irlmaier suggests that this emperor doesn't originate in the nobility but in the ordinary folk which doesn't surprise if we look at the massive corruption of the remaining nobility. So Irlmaier's emperor is an unspectacular man with Lederhosen, but still a good catholic man, and I think this is great.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on October 20, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: chaz89 on October 21, 2011, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.


I knew it when I read the first line : " In my humble and pious opinion as a faithful Roman Catholic theologian, the following claims of private revelation..." - Ron Conte. He is anything but... He wouldn't know a false prophet anymore than anyone else.

He ought to list himself as a false prophet. He's made more than one prediction that hasn't come true. The "warning and the miracle" has been predicted more than 3 times in successive years. He claims he is humble and pious and is neither. He bases just about everything on Medjugorje , that satanic cult following "apparition" that is uncatholic is almost every way.
So, take this loser with a grain of salt.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/blog.cfm?id=331

http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2008/07/medjugorje-prognostications.html


 
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: sedetrad on October 21, 2011, 10:19:49 AM
Ethereld,


Thank you for your information in this man.

Andy
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on October 21, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
Quote from: chaz89
Quote from: rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.


I knew it when I read the first line : " In my humble and pious opinion as a faithful Roman Catholic theologian, the following claims of private revelation..." - Ron Conte. He is anything but... He wouldn't know a false prophet anymore than anyone else.

He ought to list himself as a false prophet. He's made more than one prediction that hasn't come true. The "warning and the miracle" has been predicted more than 3 times in successive years. He claims he is humble and pious and is neither. He bases just about everything on Medjugorje , that satanic cult following "apparition" that is uncatholic is almost every way.
So, take this loser with a grain of salt.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/blog.cfm?id=331

http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2008/07/medjugorje-prognostications.html


 


I admit I agree completely with your assessment of Ronald Conte.  He says a lot of really goofy stuff and he also promotes apparitions that have been condemned.  However, I cannot find any information that states affirmatively that the Church has ever given any recognition to the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  There is a brief statement on Wikipedia indicating that these prophecies have never received approval by the Church.  There are plenty of private revelations from approved sources that speak about Western Europe being invaded by both the Russians and Muslims and the three days of darkness which brings the minor chastisement to an end.  There is no reason to pay any heed to dubious prophecies such as these.  I suggest you read the book "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch if you are interested in knowing possible future events.  At least Mr. Birch only uses throughly approved messages.    I only mention this because it can be sinful to promote condemned apparitions and private revelations.  

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm

It is forbidden, as well as sinful, to propagate private revelations which have received a negative judgement from the local Bishop, the conference of Bishops, or the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Some people say, "I’m going to follow it until the Pope says it’s false." This is a useless guide for action in this matter - very rarely does the Pope make a pronouncement for or against a revelation.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 22, 2011, 04:31:51 AM
Quote from: Rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?

As far as I know there's no Church's official stand on the visions of Alois Irlmaier, because they've never been examined before the Church fell into paralysis mode due to Vatican II.

What Irlmaier foresaw are no private revelations in a strict sense but "just" pictures i.e. visions. I'm sure they're from above but I can't quote an official Church stand, just some traditional priests' judgement.

I don't know the website or authors' names you quoted. If they claim the Church had examined Alois Irlmaier's visions I'd be surprised and interested to see their proof.

You can always take Irlmaier's timetable and compare it to our time and its signs with your reason. Step 1 to 4 came to pass "successfully" and clearly we're in the middle of step 5 right now. I've no doubt that steps 6 and 7 will come to pass, too. But there's no need to convince anybody with Irlmaier. We will see soon for ourselves.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: chaz89 on October 22, 2011, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: Ethelred
Quote from: Rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?

As far as I know there's no Church's official stand on the visions of Alois Irlmaier, because they've never been examined before the Church fell into paralysis mode due to Vatican II.

What Irlmaier foresaw are no private revelations in a strict sense but "just" pictures i.e. visions. I'm sure they're from above but I can't quote an official Church stand, just some traditional priests' judgement.

I don't know the website or authors' names you quoted. If they claim the Church had examined Alois Irlmaier's visions I'd be surprised and interested to see their proof.

You can always take Irlmaier's timetable and compare it to our time and its signs with your reason. Step 1 to 4 came to pass "successfully" and clearly we're in the middle of step 5 right now. I've no doubt that steps 6 and 7 will come to pass, too. But there's no need to convince anybody with Irlmaier. We will see soon for ourselves.


Ethelred,  

  Would it be wrong to say the church has never made a pronoucement on Irlmaier's predictions because they were never about the church per se but about major war situations?
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 22, 2011, 09:06:42 AM
Chaz89, I think you could say this.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ascetik on August 23, 2012, 07:21:48 PM
Thank you for sharing this, very insightful.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: brainglitch on May 19, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
Interesting prophecies.

I wonder if the yellow "line of death" refers to chemical weapons.

During  the Cold War the US military had a number of defense plans in the event of a Soviet invasion. The majority of scenarios focused on a massive tank battle that would take place in the Fulda Gap.

Were the Soviets able to rout the NATO forces, a "nuclear tripwire" would be activated. The plan called for using tactical nukes on the leading Russian spearheads, and then following up with chemical weapons.

I have no idea if the plan is still in place, but I suppose it is certainly possible.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on June 10, 2013, 07:16:41 PM
In one of my previous posts I linked to the website http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm.  Once again I apologize for this.  

Although there is some useful information contained on this website, there is also a lot that that is downright wrong and dangerous for those new to Catholic tradition.   The sections on the New Mass and Vatican II are highly problematical.  Among the most glaring errors suggested is that Paul VI had no right to reform the Sacraments and by doing so they were rendered illicit and of doubtful validity.   This is just one example of the many errors, there are a lot more.  The opinions expressed in many of the articles tends to foster a schismatic attitude which could cause some to separate themselves from the Church.

BTW, I'm still having a problem believing these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  I'm going to stick to the ones that have received full approval from the Church.

Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Capt McQuigg on June 12, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Rows,

Why do you think Paul VI "reformed the Sacraments"?

I think even Paul VI tried to play off the whole laughable "there are no intrinsic changes" to the Mass.

I remember reading about how the Sacraments were "signals, instituted by Christ, to bring Grace."  

So, why did Paul VI feel the need to alter what Christ had established?
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: KingTheoden on July 04, 2013, 09:14:53 PM
Interesting perspective.

Just a thought: it seems to be a recurring notion of the Pope having to flee Rome and take refuge somewhere in the Americas.  I wouldn't get too wrapped up in this since 'across the sea' could mean Nome, Alaska or Tierra del Fuego- or Long Beach Island, New Jersey.

If I had to make a snap guess, the Great Monarch will be an American of French and German ancestry.  We know that as a boy he will have been a great sinner but latter embraces the Faith and performs many penances.  Clearly, he will be able to lead armies in strange areas.  

Implicit in this is that he will be one of the few Catholics remaining loyal to the old rites and the spirit of the Faith as it always was.  Probably, he is hidden from the world, more or less.  And we can speculate from here.

The most important thing each of us can do is have a well-ordered Catholic life, remain in a state of grace, and know that for each of us the End might well come like a thief in the night.

As long as we are leading proper Catholic lives, which is not easy by any stretch, all things will order themselves.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Pax Vobis on June 10, 2019, 12:31:59 AM
Bumping this thread...for the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: AJNC on June 10, 2019, 01:46:05 AM
Bumping this thread...for the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.
In the meantime .........  https://twitter.com/AloisIrlmaier
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on June 10, 2019, 08:36:27 AM
In one of my previous posts I linked to the website http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm.  Once again I apologize for this.  

Although there is some useful information contained on this website, there is also a lot that that is downright wrong and dangerous for those new to Catholic tradition.   The sections on the New Mass and Vatican II are highly problematical.  Among the most glaring errors suggested is that Paul VI had no right to reform the Sacraments and by doing so they were rendered illicit and of doubtful validity.   This is just one example of the many errors, there are a lot more.  The opinions expressed in many of the articles tends to foster a schismatic attitude which could cause some to separate themselves from the Church.

BTW, I'm still having a problem believing these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  I'm going to stick to the ones that have received full approval from the Church.


Like the French mystic Bl. Marie Julie Jahenny, Alois is extremely obscure, but wonderfully Catholic.

He even saw past WWIII, the Three Days of Darkness and into the "6th Age of the Church", as explained by Ven. Bartholmew Holzhauser of the 1500's.

One of his last warnings was to his children and grandchildren.
He advised them that whatever happens during the years of tribulations he foresaw, they must remain Catholics.

In Germany, he was described as "the best seer in 400 years" and was never wrong.

How can we trust this?   We're just flying on our Catholic intuition.



Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on June 10, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Here's an obscure point Ethered uncovered, which is unfolding now, right before our eyes:


Alois told to a young woman in the 1950'ies who, however only passed it on in 1992. It's from the book on page 90, translated by an Internet-translator-website and me:

Girl, you will experience the great change that is about to come:




Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Pax Vobis on June 10, 2019, 09:20:49 AM
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4. Then a large number of strangers come into the country.

Exactly, Incredulous!  This thread was going between 2011-2013.  Even back then, it wasn't clear what point #4 meant.  Now we know with extreme clarity.
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5. There is high inflation.
6. The money will lose more and more value.
  • 7. Soon afterwards follows the Revolution.
  • 8. Then the Russians invade the West overnight


Points 5, 6 and 7 are all related and the coming global depression could happen at any time.  The US-China "trade talks" will be ongoing, as this is a negotiation concerning the upcoming change from the petro-dollar centric economic system to a china-led, gold-yuan economic system.  China and Russia (and India) hold the most gold of any countries.  China is the world's largest manufacturer.  They will be the new economic superpower in the world.  When this transition to a gold-backed global currency happens, the US dollar (and the Euro and many other currencies) will take a huge hit.  This will cause points 5, 6 and 7.  I don't know when this will all "go live" but the transition is inevitable now.  I'd bet a LOT of money that in the next 5 years for sure.  It will probably be much sooner.  It will probably happen in phases, which is what is being discussed in the "trade talks".
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When high inflation comes, there will be shortages of many things!  Store food, people!  LOTS of food!  Many, many prophecies predict people will die of starvation...
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: AJNC on June 13, 2019, 09:24:34 AM
This is what Irlmaier said:

“Everything calls peace, Shalom! Then it will occur – a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostility in the Mediterranean – the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a “large one” falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him – then impact is on impact. …”

The US is brokering a " Deal of the Century" supposedly for the good of the Palestinians ....

This is what RT said today:

https://youtu.be/aRciQZ79ruE (https://youtu.be/aRciQZ79ruE)

Hope Irlmaier doesn't turn out to be right!
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on June 13, 2019, 10:26:55 AM

That's just it!
His fellow villagers from Altotting, claimed he was never wrong.

And that spiritual "pedigree" is Catholic.

(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cdn.tripadvisor.com%2Fmedia%2Fphoto-s%2F01%2F9b%2F5a%2F8e%2Fchapel-of-mercy-in-altotting.jpg&f=1)

Altötting is a town in Bavaria, capital of the district Altötting.
For 500 years it has been the scene of religious pilgrimages by Catholics in honor of Mother Mary.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: King Wenceslas on June 17, 2019, 12:06:28 PM
Obviously Trump is not really in control:


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The New York Times has published an anonymously sourced report titled “U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid (http://archive.is/aFVzg)” about the “placement of potentially crippling malware inside the Russian system at a depth and with an aggressiveness that had never been tried before” which could potentially “plunge Russia into darkness or cripple its military,” with one anonymous official reporting that “We are doing things at a scale that we never contemplated a few years ago.”

Obviously this is yet another serious escalation in the continually mounting series of steps (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/responses-to-this-tweet-show-how-people-fixate-on-narrative-over-fact-b43925719952) that have been taken into a new cold war between the planet’s two nuclear superpowers. Had a report been leaked to Russian media from anonymous Kremlin officials that Moscow was escalating its cyber-aggressions against America’s energy grid, this would doubtless be labeled an act of war by the political/media class of the US and its allies with demands for immediate retaliation.

“Two administration officials said they believed Mr. Trump had not been briefed in any detail about the steps to place ‘implants’ — software code that can be used for surveillance or attack — inside the Russian grid.

“Pentagon and intelligence officials described broad hesitation to go into detail with Mr. Trump about operations against Russia for concern over his reaction — and the possibility that he might countermand it or discuss it with foreign officials, as he did in 2017 when he mentioned a sensitive operation in Syria to the Russian foreign minister.

“Because the new law defines the actions in cyberspace as akin to traditional military activity on the ground, in the air or at sea, no such briefing would be necessary, they added.”

In an article titled “Pentagon Keeps Trump in the Dark About its Cyber Attacks on Russia (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pentagon-trump-cyber-attacks-on-russia-848695/)”, Rolling Stone’s Peter Wade described this jarring revelation as follows:


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“New laws, enacted by Congress last year, allow such ‘clandestine military activity’ in cyberspace to go ahead without the president’s approval. So, in this case, those new laws are protecting American interests… by keeping the sitting president out of the loop. What a (scary) time to be alive.”
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Pentagon Keeps Trump in the Dark About its Cyber Attacks on Russia https://t.co/CJLFjbkR6x (https://t.co/CJLFjbkR6x) pic.twitter.com/TFYkTAcD0g (https://t.co/TFYkTAcD0g)
— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) June 15, 2019 (https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1140025721936580608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

So Trump is in a bit of a bind now. The escalation has already been put in place, which will likely see an equal response from Moscow if it isn’t scaled back. But scaling it back would mean a whole new wave of shrieking alarmism from the political/media class about the conspiracy theory that just won’t die no matter how much evidence is mounted against it: that Trump is a controlled puppet of the Kremlin. All as he’s working to build the case for re-election in 2020.


My conclusion about all of this is that war with Russia is now inevitable. Especially with the full support of sodomy by Trump and the US government. God is going to lower the boom on the West within the next 5 or 6 years.

The West is now fully committed to Sodomy. The hand of God will soon be upon the nations.

All the signs are clearly pointing to a catastrophic outcome. Get out of all major metropolitan areas now!
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: King Wenceslas on June 17, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
People rarely take time to deeply reflect on the uniquely important fact that our species came within a hair’s breadth of total annihilation during the Cuban missile crisis. We learned long after it was all over that the only reason a nuclear-armed Soviet submarine didn’t discharge its payload on the US Navy and set off a full-scale nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR was because one of the three men in the sub needed to authorize the weapon’s use stood against the other two and refused. That man’s name was Vasili Arkhipov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov_%28vice_admiral%29), and he’s responsible for the fact that you and everyone you love exists today.

good PBS docuмentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr_WkfOMx4c&t=2s)

I was just a shave tail runt in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains while this was going on. Scary. I remember the adults talking about something that they were seriously worried about.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: jvk on June 17, 2019, 01:29:00 PM
What's amazing to me is that the Great Monarch could be alive right now...maybe a small boy, or an adolescent young man.  And the good Pope that will lead the Church in its renewal.

Interesting prophecies, thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: AJNC on December 20, 2019, 01:36:55 AM
The man whose Twitter handle is "Alois-Irlmaier" has not posted for 7 months. He was always a prolific poster. Irlmaier told the nurse who attended him during his fatal illness in 1959 that she would live to see WWIII. Some years ago this lady was already in her nineties. It could well be that she has died and like the death of Joey Lomangino of Garabandal fame, her "premature" death has cast doubt on the whole Irlmaier prophecy thing.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on December 20, 2019, 06:04:31 AM
The man whose Twitter handle is "Alois-Irlmaier" has not posted for 7 months. He was always a prolific poster. Irlmaier told the nurse who attended him during his fatal illness in 1959 that she would live to see WWIII. Some years ago this lady was already in her nineties. It could well be that she has died and like the death of Joey Lomangino of Garabandal fame, her "premature" death has cast doubt on the whole Irlmaier prophecy thing.


Joey Lomangino wasn’t a German “Certified mystic” as was Alois.
Alois has a docuмented track record of no misses.


And what he has forecasted is exactly what’s happening, such as the human wave of Soros immigrants coming into America.  You’ll never get an accurate statistic as to the numbers of invaders coming into our country.


The Jєωs use this technique to engineer social disorder.

But let’s wait and see.  Alois’s next prediction is high inflation followed by hyper inflation. Another Judaic specialty.


Any part time student of economics knows we are ripe for this.  The Jєωs demonstrated their ability to drop the world economy in 2009.

Who on this forum doubts they can do it again?
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Cera on March 16, 2022, 04:46:32 PM
BTT
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 16, 2022, 05:32:41 PM
But let’s wait and see.  Alois’s next prediction is high inflation followed by hyper inflation. Another Judaic specialty.

Already starting, with hyper-inflation well on the way.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 16, 2022, 05:38:50 PM

VI. Irlmaier's famous timetable from the early 1950's

1. First there's an economic vitality like never before. [CHECK] prosperity worldwide for several generations after WW2
2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before. [CHECK] Vatican II->Bergoglio
3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.  [CHECK] 1960s->Amoris Laetitia->widespread sodomy & transgenderism
4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.  [CHECK] immigrants flooding Europe and the US and everywhere else
5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.  [STARTING NOW]
6. Soon follows the revolution.
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)

my comments in Bold above (excepting the title)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 16, 2022, 05:41:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ChristoThurston/status/1500840524323999750 (https://twitter.com/ChristoThurston/status/1500840524323999750)

https://twitter.com/Jesse_Tradr/status/1499805268729012225 (https://twitter.com/Jesse_Tradr/status/1499805268729012225)

https://twitter.com/TheNewAmerica77/status/1500096164305289220 (https://twitter.com/TheNewAmerica77/status/1500096164305289220)

https://twitter.com/RebeccaTig/status/1498130733000536065 (https://twitter.com/RebeccaTig/status/1498130733000536065)

https://twitter.com/MakingMoneyFast/status/1499773616048807936 (https://twitter.com/MakingMoneyFast/status/1499773616048807936)

https://twitter.com/leeroden7/status/1500464984593207298 (https://twitter.com/leeroden7/status/1500464984593207298)

https://twitter.com/TomMapfumo/status/1499382930623373320 (https://twitter.com/TomMapfumo/status/1499382930623373320)

https://twitter.com/billyquaide2/status/1500932378881003520 (https://twitter.com/billyquaide2/status/1500932378881003520)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: DigitalLogos on March 16, 2022, 05:59:31 PM
VI. Irlmaier's famous timetable from the early 1950's

5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more. Started after 9/11 and emerged in 2008
6. Soon follows the revolution. Started 2020 with the global COVID lie
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)

my comments in Bold above (excepting the title)
My take: the massive inflation started a couple of decades ago with 9/11 and the revolution towards global Communism (Great Reset) was started with Covid.

It kind of makes me think Chiesa Viva's timeline of 2025 being the Great Chastisement might be accurate.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 16, 2022, 06:01:51 PM
I started with "RED" also but it gets turned to black in qoted text.  :laugh1:
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 16, 2022, 06:04:25 PM
According to Irlmaier, what kicks off the sudden Russian invasion is when some "Great One" gets αssαssιnαtҽd in the Balkans.  Given that Russia reacts, and starts by wiping out Prague (the Golden City), I would venture to say it was a Russian diplomat (Putin himself?) murdered by someone from the Czech Republic (some diplomat?).

People don't know that there are many much HARDER-liners in the Russian Duma than Putin.  Putin is seen as a moderate.  Just yesterday, some members of the Duma were demanding reparations from the US over the sanctions, including returning Alaska to Russia and said that Russia should nuke the US if we don't comply.  So if Putin were taken out, I could see some of the right-wing radical types just blasting into Western Europe without warning.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: DigitalLogos on March 16, 2022, 06:04:50 PM
I started with "RED" also but it gets turned to black in qoted text.  :laugh1:
LOL right? I was wondering if I was doing something wrong myself.

According to Irlmaier, what kicks off the sudden Russian invasion is when some "Great One" gets αssαssιnαtҽd in the Balkans.  Given that Russia reacts, and starts by wiping out Prague (the Golden City), I would venture to say it was a Russian diplomat (Putin himself?) murdered by someone from the Czech Republic (some diplomat?).
In the auspices of Irlmaier, Putin is the only "Great One" I can think of in the current political charade. Zelensky doesn't quite fit the bill, BUT, given his recent popularity, maybe he is another candidate for the "Great One" as well.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Mark 79 on March 16, 2022, 06:07:17 PM
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Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: DigitalLogos on March 21, 2022, 07:21:54 PM
I came across this little bit of information:
https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/russian-elites-planning-to-overthrow-putin-ukrainian-intelligence/ (https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/russian-elites-planning-to-overthrow-putin-ukrainian-intelligence/)


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“Poisoning, sudden illness, accident – Russia’s elite is considering removing Putin,” declared a Sunday Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

The ministry claimed that a group of “influential people” has been forming in Russia who want to “remove Putin from power as soon as possible and restore economic ties with the West, which were destroyed by the war in Ukraine.”


It reminded me of what Alois Irlmaier said about the death of a "large one" which kicks things off towards the Chastisement:

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I see a "large one" falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him - then impact is on impact. ..."

"Two men kill a third (who is) high ranked. They were paid by other people (to kill him). ..."

"The third murder occurred. Then the war starts. ..." (NOTE: / OBSERVATIONS: it must be a very high ranking world leader who is knifed to death that will start the war.  Some accounts say this with be the third of three murders or three assasination attempts.)

"One of the murderers is a small black man, the other a little bit taller, with bright (light) colored hair. I think, it will be at the Balkans, but cannot say it exactly. ..."

Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 21, 2022, 09:18:00 PM
It reminded me of what Alois Irlmaier said about the death of a "large one" which kicks things off towards the Chastisement:

Just today there was a report that Biden would be going to Poland, and he was invited into Ukraine by Zelensky.  Perhaps "large one" is a reference in his native tongue to "Big Guy" :laugh1:
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Donachie on March 21, 2022, 11:25:53 PM
The Afrikaners are Presbyterians I guess, so I don't put much stock by this but it's a clip with a good soundtrack, good narrator and music. The narrator would be a good audiobook reader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsbTHSPturg 
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: pokazukaperestroika on March 22, 2022, 12:35:47 PM
note what is said about the Balkans on Russian State TV either today or yesterday
https://files.catbox.moe/jhr982.mp4 (https://files.catbox.moe/jhr982.mp4)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2022, 12:44:51 PM
note what is said about the Balkans on Russian State TV either today or yesterday

Well, the translations says Baltics, rather than Balkans, but it could be incorrect.

(https://hungrynomads.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Baltics-vs-Balkans-with-a-map.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: pokazukaperestroika on March 22, 2022, 12:55:48 PM
Well, the translations says Baltics, rather than Balkans, but it could be incorrect.

(https://hungrynomads.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Baltics-vs-Balkans-with-a-map.jpg)
oh yes you are right, I misread it.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 22, 2022, 01:02:14 PM
oh yes you are right, I misread it.

or the translation / caption could be incorrect.  I'd have to listen in context which one he means.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Comrade on March 22, 2022, 03:14:52 PM
I guess Alois Irlmaier was NOT a Flat Earther. Interesting....very interesting. :cowboy:

" I see the earth like a ball before me, on whom now the white pigeons fly near, a very large number coming up from the sand. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line. When the golden city is destroyed, it begins. Like a yellow line it goes up to the city in the bay. It will be a clear night, when they begin to throw it. The tanks are still driving, but those who sit in these tanks became quite black. Where it falls down, everything will be dead, no tree, no bush, no cattle, no grass, this becomes withered and black. The houses still exist. I don't know, what it is and so I cannot tell it. It is a long line. Who goes over this line, dies. The ones, who are on the one side cannot go over to the other side. Then everything at the spearheads breaks down. They all must go to the north. What they have with them, they throw away. Nobody will come back anymore... "

Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: DigitalLogos on March 22, 2022, 03:43:04 PM
I guess Alois Irlmaier was NOT a Flat Earther. Interesting....very interesting. :cowboy:

" I see the earth like a ball before me, on whom now the white pigeons fly near, a very large number coming up from the sand. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line. When the golden city is destroyed, it begins. Like a yellow line it goes up to the city in the bay. It will be a clear night, when they begin to throw it. The tanks are still driving, but those who sit in these tanks became quite black. Where it falls down, everything will be dead, no tree, no bush, no cattle, no grass, this becomes withered and black. The houses still exist. I don't know, what it is and so I cannot tell it. It is a long line. Who goes over this line, dies. The ones, who are on the one side cannot go over to the other side. Then everything at the spearheads breaks down. They all must go to the north. What they have with them, they throw away. Nobody will come back anymore... "
----> https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 25, 2022, 09:21:39 AM

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5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.
6. Soon follows the revolution.
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)
Was thinking about this yesterday….the events leading up to WW3.  There is a missing piece here because when Alois talks about the start of WW3 and the graphic details, he says that right before the war starts “All calls peace, Shalom!”


This obviously means there is peace in the Middle East because he says war suddenly breaks out in the Middle East. So this means that somewhere between pt 5 and 6 above (or between 6 and 7), there will be some earthly peace of some kind.  

Questions I have:
1.  Does this “peace” come after the “consecration”?  Is this peace an attempt to usher in the NWO in a positive light (ie through the new-age/Protestant/enlightenment model, where there is peace, security and a universal religion of “love”?)

2.  Does this Middle East peace come before a global economic crash?  (ie between pts 5 and 6)

3.  Or does this Middle East peace come in the aftermath of economic chaos, and new satanic antipope, a global religion and new digital currencies?  (ie between pts 6 and 7, which means the “peace” is the effect of the “revolution” that Alois mentions.  

4.  I’m leaning towards #3 above (unfortunately) because a) I don’t see how we can avoid economic chaos and b) though the events of WW3 are horrific they also lead to conversions of Russia and the destruction of evil.  So in a sense, WW3 is where the elites (ironically) win and lose, which lines up with other prophecies.  WW3 gives the blood-thirsty elites the chaos they want but it causes Russia to convert and then, eventually Europe and the rise of the Great Monarch.  

So, ultimately the elites have their short-term victory in pt 6, the “revolution”, which also lines up with many prophecies.  I’m just not sure where the “peace in the Middle East” and economic collapse fits in, in the timeline.  

Would love to hear theories.  Shalom!  (a joke)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ascetik on March 25, 2022, 09:41:35 AM
How I understand it is the revolutions will kick off because of hyperinflation caused by the Russia/Ukraine conflict, bad harvests, supply chain breakdown, business destruction from govt policy from Covid. After the revolutions have kicked off for awhile, there will be a call for peace and then boom.

Maybe I'm off here, but not sure where you're getting the middle-east from, unless I missed it in the longer prophecies.

This was translated 5 years ago by a German guy. There are some prophecies that are still untranslated into English.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TraditionalCatholics/comments/4u1yur/alois_irlmaiers_prophecies_source_and_translation/
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on March 25, 2022, 10:27:07 AM
Was thinking about this yesterday….the events leading up to WW3.  There is a missing piece here because when Alois talks about the start of WW3 and the graphic details, he says that right before the war starts “All calls peace, Shalom!”

I think that the "Shalom peace" referred to suggests the Jєω World Order peace, not necessarily JUST in the Middle East.  But the spark of WW3 is a bit ambiguous.  He says it has something to do with the Middle East, but then it's actually kicked off by an assassination in the Balkans, for which the Russians seek revenge by destroying Prague and blitz-krieging into Europe.  So I'm not sure what the Middle East has to do with it except that the Globalists are seeking a peace of the Jєω World Order, the Globohomo.  That's why Putin's incursion into Ukraine threatens them.

Could the reference to "Shalom peace" actually be to the Bergoglian consecration today, which is little more than a petition for peace, a Jєω World Order peace, not a Reign of Christ the King peace?
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Jaycie on March 25, 2022, 10:51:45 AM
Was thinking about this yesterday….the events leading up to WW3.  There is a missing piece here because when Alois talks about the start of WW3 and the graphic details, he says that right before the war starts “All calls peace, Shalom!”


This obviously means there is peace in the Middle East because he says war suddenly breaks out in the Middle East. So this means that somewhere between pt 5 and 6 above (or between 6 and 7), there will be some earthly peace of some kind. 

Questions I have:
1.  Does this “peace” come after the “consecration”?  Is this peace an attempt to usher in the NWO in a positive light (ie through the new-age/Protestant/enlightenment model, where there is peace, security and a universal religion of “love”?)

2.  Does this Middle East peace come before a global economic crash?  (ie between pts 5 and 6)

3.  Or does this Middle East peace come in the aftermath of economic chaos, and new satanic antipope, a global religion and new digital currencies?  (ie between pts 6 and 7, which means the “peace” is the effect of the “revolution” that Alois mentions. 

4.  I’m leaning towards #3 above (unfortunately) because a) I don’t see how we can avoid economic chaos and b) though the events of WW3 are horrific they also lead to conversions of Russia and the destruction of evil.  So in a sense, WW3 is where the elites (ironically) win and lose, which lines up with other prophecies.  WW3 gives the blood-thirsty elites the chaos they want but it causes Russia to convert and then, eventually Europe and the rise of the Great Monarch. 

So, ultimately the elites have their short-term victory in pt 6, the “revolution”, which also lines up with many prophecies.  I’m just not sure where the “peace in the Middle East” and economic collapse fits in, in the timeline. 

Would love to hear theories.  Shalom!  (a joke)
This is probably a bit of a stretch but could the revolutions Alois Irlmaeir speak of be the big demonstrations in European cities against the jab mandates along with the blm/Antifa riots in the U.S. and the trucker protests in Canada and elsewhere? Russia invading the West could be Russia invading  Ukraine right now. So WW3  has already started and the hot part of the war will begin with the assassination of one or more 'big ones' which could happen after a short time of false peace supposedly brought about by 'pope Francis's'  'consecration'. This may all be a little far fetched I know.!  ::)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 25, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
All fair points.  My first thought when hearing peace/Shalom was the Middle East because the elites have tried for decades to make this happen.  If Israel/Palestine have peace, then necessarily it will spread globally = NWO. I see these events inseparable.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: dxcat40 on September 11, 2023, 12:00:44 AM
" I see the earth like a ball before me, on whom now the white pigeons fly near, a very large number coming up from the sand. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line. When the golden city is destroyed, it begins. Like a yellow line it goes up to the city in the bay. It will be a clear night, when they begin to throw it. The tanks are still driving, but those who sit in these tanks became quite black. Where it falls down, everything will be dead, no tree, no bush, no cattle, no grass, this becomes withered and black. The houses still exist. I don't know, what it is and so I cannot tell it. It is a long line. Who goes over this line, dies. The ones, who are on the one side cannot go over to the other side. Then everything at the spearheads breaks down. They all must go to the north. What they have with them, they throw away. Nobody will come back anymore... "

In 1981, the Soviet Union purportedly unleashed a fungal chemical weapon dubbed "Yellow Rain." The Wikipedia article has the basic info, but here is a bit more:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/yellow-rain

https://sciencehistory.org/stories/magazine/the-mystery-of-yellow-rain/

https://cen.acs.org/articles/91/i4/Yellow-Rain.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1984/04/13/yellow-rain-in-asia/84f2f086-7477-4dc6-b7d5-8059d2fbf0c7/

And if you keep looking, you will come across more of the same. The Department of Defense claimed that chemical weapons were being used, but "Yellow Rain" ran into trouble with "bee theory." There were scientists who claimed that "Yellow Rain" was really bee excrement, but the victims were discovered to be afflicted by mycotoxin. Allegedly it is a mystery to this day, but I wonder if anyone else knows more about it? Or more current research? That said, it doesn't seem like this could be as lethal as described by Irlmaier, but it is an interesting connection. Perhaps something better exists now than was allegedly used in the 80s.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on September 11, 2023, 07:35:22 AM
In 1981, the Soviet Union purportedly unleashed a fungal chemical weapon dubbed "Yellow Rain." The Wikipedia article has the basic info, but here is a bit more:

Well, the problem is that Irlmaier says that it's the adversaries of the Russians who use this yellow/green powder ... to cut off the spearheads from their supply lines.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: dxcat40 on September 11, 2023, 10:15:43 AM
Well, the problem is that Irlmaier says that it's the adversaries of the Russians who use this yellow/green powder ... to cut off the spearheads from their supply lines.

I wasn't trying to claim Russia would cut itself off using this old Soviet weapon, but sharing something similar to what Irlmaier described. Admittedly, there are a lot of problems with the comparison, because it is not thought possible for a fungal chemical weapon to operate as quickly as described by Irlmaier's "yellow dust" weapon. He might have actually been referring to a more effective nerve agent, but of course, we can't really know. Some supposed (unverifiable) whistleblowers have claimed that the U.S. government attempted to reverse engineer the technology of the Soviet Union, including that of the gravely immoral type. It could be that the U.S. government secretly possesses a better version through these past efforts.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on September 11, 2023, 11:10:38 AM
I wasn't trying to claim Russia would cut itself off using this old Soviet weapon, but sharing something similar to what Irlmaier described. Admittedly, there are a lot of problems with the comparison, because it is not thought possible for a fungal chemical weapon to operate as quickly as described by Irlmaier's "yellow dust" weapon. He might have actually been referring to a more effective nerve agent, but of course, we can't really know. Some supposed (unverifiable) whistleblowers have claimed that the U.S. government attempted to reverse engineer the technology of the Soviet Union, including that of the gravely immoral type. It could be that the U.S. government secretly possesses a better version through these past efforts.

Right.  I found the "yellow rain" stuff some time ago after reading Irlmaier, but it didn't quite seem to fit what he's describing, and I'm sure all sides have weapons we know nothing about.  Effects kindof sound like what we'd see from a neutron bomb, where you have physical structures untouched, say vehicles, continuing to move, but the drivers inside dead ... except is sure looks more like some kind of chemical agent.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: dxcat40 on September 11, 2023, 01:14:35 PM
Right.  I found the "yellow rain" stuff some time ago after reading Irlmaier, but it didn't quite seem to fit what he's describing, and I'm sure all sides have weapons we know nothing about.  Effects kindof sound like what we'd see from a neutron bomb, where you have physical structures untouched, say vehicles, continuing to move, but the drivers inside dead ... except is sure looks more like some kind of chemical agent.

In agreement with the first two sentences. As for the rest, the neutron bomb part doesn't fit with "yellow dust" and a line of death that causes people to be "quite dark." Instant death and blackened (?) bodies only really fits with nuclear detonations when it comes to CBRN, but both the delivery system and line of death description fits better with a chemical weapon over a radiological one. I think we come to the same conclusion with your final clause concerning chemical agents.

Irlmaier's "quite black" and "withered and black" present difficulties if we take what he says literally. The weapon apparently kills instantaneously, can be spread along a line, seemingly does not spread from the line once dispersed, and causes both humans and other living things to blacken in appearance.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on September 11, 2023, 01:46:06 PM
In agreement with the first two sentences. As for the rest, the neutron bomb part doesn't fit with "yellow dust" and a line of death that causes people to be "quite dark." Instant death and blackened (?) bodies only really fits with nuclear detonations when it comes to CBRN, but both the delivery system and line of death description fits better with a chemical weapon over a radiological one. I think we come to the same conclusion with your final clause concerning chemical agents.

Irlmaier's "quite black" and "withered and black" present difficulties if we take what he says literally. The weapon apparently kills instantaneously, can be spread along a line, seemingly does not spread from the line once dispersed, and causes both humans and other living things to blacken in appearance.

Yes, that's why I added that last part, that it look more like some kind of chemical weapon.  Really the only overlap with neutron is killing living beings without harming non-living matter.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: trad123 on October 17, 2023, 06:05:46 PM
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"Everything calls peace, Schalom! Then it will occur - a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostility in the Mediterranean - the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a "large one" falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him - then impact is on impact. ..."




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQs8QoJvkHM
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on October 18, 2023, 07:43:22 AM
What about yellow cake uranium?  The yids could use that and blame it on Iran/Iraq to cause confusion.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Mendel on November 02, 2023, 12:33:36 PM
This is really interesting. I can't seem to find any information on this guy anywhere! Is he a Catholic? What is the Catholic Church's view on him?

Is he a psychic or a mystic, because there's a big difference. LOL

What he says does line up with dozens of Catholic Prophecies I've read, three days of darkness etc.

I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned. (https://i.imgur.com/T2G7LIE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ascetik on November 02, 2023, 12:36:33 PM
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.

Citation please. Dowsing rods rely on the earth's magnetism, not black magic.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: trad123 on November 02, 2023, 05:47:51 PM
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.


Explicitly condemned the use dowsing rods or rather divining in general?

If someone uses such a device based on pseudoscience rather than some kind of spiritualism, then I doubt there is any sin involved.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Edler_von_Graeve


Quote
In 1914, as part of an interview and demonstration given to The Sun in New York von Graeve explained dowsing as follows:

"So far as it can be determined now I am susceptible to radioactivity to the alpha, beta and gamma rays discovered by Herz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Hertz) [sic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic)]... Our present guess is that there is a continuous current of these alpha, beta, gamma and other rays—radioactive waves—flowing up from underground. Where there is water, oil, gold, silver, or other mineral under the earth’s surface the flow up of the radioactive waves is disturbed. Either it is stopped entirely, or the waves are swung out of their course. That is because water, oil and the minerals are nonconductors of these waves."[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Edler_von_Graeve#cite_note-dowser-1)


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Edler_von_Graeve#cite_note-dowser-1)
I doubt pseudoscience is a sin.


Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Plenus Venter on November 02, 2023, 06:13:55 PM
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.
Well that's interesting, I had not heard that.
I recall hearing from an SSPX priest around 1990 that Archbishop Lefebvre's sister had this gift - I can't recall whether Mother Marie Gabriel or Mother Marie Christiane the Carmelite, however I think it was Mother Gabriel the cofounder of the Society nuns, as I seem to recall the story was in relation to finding water at the Society's newly aquired property in Albano.

Pseudoscience or natural gift? Wikipedia would say pseudoscience, but hearing the above story gave me reason to think otherwise.

Here is some interesting history from Wiki:

Early divination and religion

 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Curious_Myths_p_81_rod.jpg) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Curious_Myths_p_81_rod.jpg)
Dowsing originated in ancient times, when it was treated as a form of divination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination). The Catholic Church (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church), however, banned the practice completely.[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-inglis246-12)

Reformer Martin Luther (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther) perpetuated the Catholic ban, in 1518 listing divining for metals as an act that broke the first commandment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_the_Lord_your_God) (i.e., as occultism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism)).[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-inglis246-12)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-ogD4W-13)

Old texts about searching for water do not mention using the divining twig, and the first account of this practice was in 1568.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-spooky-14)[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-15-credibility-15) Sir William F. Barrett (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Barrett) wrote in his 1911 book Psychical Research that:
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...in a recent admirable Life of St. Teresa of Spain, the following incident is narrated: Teresa in 1568 was offered the site for a convent to which there was only one objection, there was no water supply; happily, a Friar Antonio came up with a twig in his hand, stopped at a certain spot and appeared to be making the sign of the cross; but Teresa says, "Really I cannot be sure if it were the sign he made, at any rate he made some movement with the twig and then he said, ' Dig just here '; they dug, and lo ! a plentiful fount of water gushed forth, excellent for 'drinking, copious for washing, and it never ran dry.' " As the writer of this Life remarks: "Teresa, not having heard of dowsing, has no explanation for this event", and regarded it as a miracle. This, I believe, is the first historical reference to dowsing for water.[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-Barrett_Psychical_Research_p171-16)[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-LaCEG-17)
In 1662, divining with rods was declared to be "superstitious (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition), or rather satanic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan)" by a Jesuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus), Gaspar Schott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Schott), though he later noted that he was not sure that the devil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil) was always responsible for the movement of the rod.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-IrMOB-18) In southern France in the 17th century, it was used to track criminals and heretics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy). Its abuse led to a decree of the inquisition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition) in 1701, forbidding its employment for purposes of justice.[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#cite_note-EB1911-19)



Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ascetik on November 02, 2023, 07:23:25 PM
Seems to work well for finding water, not so much heretics.

There's nothing superstitious involved. Water creates a magnetic field underground. It's absurd to consider it a sin to use them for the location of wells, which Alois Irlmaier did, and people still do to this day with great success.

Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on November 02, 2023, 08:47:35 PM

Here are some introductory talks on Alois.

He was a Catholic mystic and his visions of WWIII are supported by other reputable Catholic mystics.

Alois (Part I) (https://youtu.be/Ftzf9GPTTZ4?list=PL86-5i91FJOdmFJous_ajHFkXGpXYpc5A)

Alois Part II (https://youtu.be/vf98LtWEiA4)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 03, 2023, 06:46:12 AM
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.

It's easy to write something off as "superstition" when modern "science" has no explanation for it.  One could go through hundreds of different medical practices by various cultures that modern science claim were superstition, only to LATER discover that there was something to them.  As some else posted here, there could be various scientific causes, and simply because we don't know what these are doesn't mean the practice is superstitious.  These "divining" rods have been used for so long and by so many different cultures that there has to be something to it.  They must have had a good amount of success with it, or the practice would not have survived.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Motorede on November 03, 2023, 08:47:40 AM
It's easy to write something off as "superstition" when modern "science" has no explanation for it.  One could go through hundreds of different medical practices by various cultures that modern science claim were superstition, only to LATER discover that there was something to them.  As some else posted here, there could be various scientific causes, and simply because we don't know what these are doesn't mean the practice is superstitious.  These "divining" rods have been used for so long and by so many different cultures that there has to be something to it.  They must have had a good amount of success with it, or the practice would not have survived.

It was told by several older SSPX priests that Archbishop Lefebvre's sister, a nun, had a talent for using the "divining" rod. 
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: OABrownson1876 on November 03, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events. 

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.
Irlmaier died in 1959.  Are you waiting for these heretical modern popes to approve an apparition which goes completely against the Novus Ordo narrative?  Remember, Papa Francis converted Russia and we are living in the era of PEACE!  For the Church to approve Irlmaier is to imply that the Consecration of Russia was a giant sham.  That's the way I see it. 
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 03, 2023, 12:10:03 PM
Yeah, non-approved doesn't necessarily mean illegitimate.  There's almost nothing related to the faith in his predictions, so it's not like someone could somehow get bad doctrine from reading his predictions.  He was not silenced by the Church either.  But the Church is very cautious about giving approbation to anything, and especially when the prophecies / visions / locutions have little or no bearing on the faith.  It would be quite another thing if there was any theological content in the messages.  Given that there isn't, the Church probably saw no value in even investigating.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on November 04, 2023, 11:40:55 AM
Yeah, non-approved doesn't necessarily mean illegitimate.  There's almost nothing related to the faith in his predictions, so it's not like someone could somehow get bad doctrine from reading his predictions.  He was not silenced by the Church either.  But the Church is very cautious about giving approbation to anything, and especially when the prophecies / visions / locutions have little or no bearing on the faith.  It would be quite another thing if there was any theological content in the messages.  Given that there isn't, the Church probably saw no value in even investigating.

Catholic clerical support, does seem to be the missing part of Alois's story?

German protestants have picked up on him and made the most books and videos about his, life, but of course have edited and put their own interpretation on it. 

No way would the acknowledge his discussion of the Three Days of Darkness.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on November 04, 2023, 12:15:10 PM
Seems to work well for finding water, not so much heretics.

There's nothing superstitious involved. Water creates a magnetic field underground. It's absurd to consider it a sin to use them for the location of wells, which Alois Irlmaier did, and people still do to this day with great success.

Here's a Brit tutorial on dowsing for water.   

Water dowsing (https://youtu.be/042N05bmlL4)

In the intro, he states the first recorded use of dowsing rods was by Queen Elizabeth I, in preparing for battle against Catholic Spain.  England needed to find copper & silver mines so they commissioned German dowsers to find them and they did. 

But, there is a preternatural side to it that is scary.  In this Cockney Brit tutorial, he speaks of creating an "association" between yourself and the divining rods to look for silver.  It requires that one ask the rods a series of questions.

Dowsing for silver (https://youtu.be/bbwo0YCpV3E)

Note: Per above, little mention is ever made of the Queen's witch, John Dee and his curses used to overturn the Spanish Armada.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: EWPJ on November 04, 2023, 12:41:57 PM
Here's a Brit tutorial on dowsing for water. 

Water dowsing (https://youtu.be/042N05bmlL4)

In the intro, he states the first recorded use of dowsing rods was by Queen Elizabeth I, in preparing for battle against Catholic Spain.  England needed to find copper & silver mines so they commissioned German dowsers to find them and they did.

But, there is a preternatural side to it that is scary.  In this Cockney Brit tutorial, he speaks of creating an "association" between yourself and the divining rods to look for silver.  It requires that one ask the rods a series of questions.

Dowsing for silver (https://youtu.be/bbwo0YCpV3E)

Note: Per above, little mention is ever made of the Queen's witch, John Dee and his curses used to overturn the Spanish Armada.

Interesting.  Yeah, you never really hear about how witches/warlocks/etc. are used in war but they are.  

Don't know the exact source, but a guy was telling me about some of these based on a video he watched so take the info with a grain of salt but apparently they were also used in the cινιℓ ωαr that lead to the souths defeat.  
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Incredulous on November 04, 2023, 01:09:59 PM
Interesting.  Yeah, you never really hear about how witches/warlocks/etc. are used in war but they are. 

Don't know the exact source, but a guy was telling me about some of these based on a video he watched so take the info with a grain of salt but apparently they were also used in the cινιℓ ωαr that lead to the souths defeat. 

I'll bet Albert Pike was involved in the plot.


(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51GQKuazxkL._AC_SR300,300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Mendel on November 05, 2023, 09:41:46 AM
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned. (https://i.imgur.com/T2G7LIE.jpg)
It appears I spoke too soon, and that I clearly do not know what I am talking about. I had read some conflicting things about some prelates condemning it's use. Forgive my ignorance.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 05, 2023, 11:38:43 AM
It appears I spoke too soon, and that I clearly do not know what I am talking about. I had read some conflicting things about some prelates condemning it's use. Forgive my ignorance.

Don't be so hard on yourself.  That's what this forum is for.  I'm sure it's a condemnable practice if one attributes some kind of "superstition" to it, but there are more things under heaven and earth that are dreamt of in the philosophy of "modern science".  There's probably some scientific explanation for how / why this works ... even if we don't know what that is yet.  We see that all the time where, if modern science can't figure out how or why something happens, they dismiss it as fake or fraudulent or superstitious.  I doubt that modern science understand 1% of our physical reality, and probably understand at least 50% wrong or incorrectly.  They do that constantly in the medical field, where the deride some of the medical practices of past generations or past civilizations as stupid ... only to find out that they were onto something.  Those old Farmers' Almanacs made better predictions about the weather (using whatever methods of prognostication they employed) than modern meteorologists.  There's probably some simple farmer out there that can smell the air and thereby accurately predict the weather for days or weeks out, whereas I can't trust "AccuWeather" to be even close more than 2 days out.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Mendel on November 05, 2023, 11:59:46 AM
Don't be so hard on yourself.  That's what this forum is for.  I'm sure it's a condemnable practice if one attributes some kind of "superstition" to it, but there are more things under heaven and earth that are dreamt of in the philosophy of "modern science".  There's probably some scientific explanation for how / why this works ... even if we don't know what that is yet.  We see that all the time where, if modern science can't figure out how or why something happens, they dismiss it as fake or fraudulent or superstitious.  I doubt that modern science understand 1% of our physical reality, and probably understand at least 50% wrong or incorrectly.  They do that constantly in the medical field, where the deride some of the medical practices of past generations or past civilizations as stupid ... only to find out that they were onto something.  Those old Farmers' Almanacs made better predictions about the weather (using whatever methods of prognostication they employed) than modern meteorologists.  There's probably some simple farmer out there that can smell the air and thereby accurately predict the weather for days or weeks out, whereas I can't trust "AccuWeather" to be even close more than 2 days out.
Yeah I think it's only condemnable too when it's used to contact "spirits" instead of for searching for water or minerals.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 05:29:45 AM
Here's an interesting potential Irlmaier development.

Yesterday, there was a rare Aurora Borealis seen in the Czech Republic and even in parts of the Balkans, rare on two counts, first because you rarely see them that far south, and second because it was red (a rare color for them).  This brings to mind ...

1) Our Lady of Fatima's warning about the light in the sky portending WW2
2) Irlmaier's reference to WW3 touching off in the Balkans and the first Russian response being the destruction of Prague.

Here are some pictures (from a Prague Morning site) ...
https://praguemorning.cz/northern-lights-czechia/

(https://praguemorning.cz/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Northern-Lights-czechia.jpg)

We know of course that Irmaier spoke of large fleets in the Mediterranean as a prelude to the kickoff of WW3, and now we have this rare red Aurora seen in Prague.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 05:34:38 AM
In Bulgaria, they're referring to it as Apocalyptic ...

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/bulgaria-northern-lights-aurora-borealis-first-time-viral-photos-reactions-what-is-the-cause-2458584-2023-11-06

In a first, northern lights turn sky red in Bulgaria, people call it ‘apocalyptic’

The captivating spectacle of the aurora borealis, commonly known as the northern lights, was witnessed for the first time in Bulgaria on Sunday.

(https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/2023-11/F-M7LX1WgAAdwb3.gif?VersionId=PUm8OygQBm9P0XDP6KMYSWPO8CZlBall)
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 05:47:24 AM
Our Lady at Fatima:
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When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its sins, by means of war, famine, and persecutions against the Church and of the Holy Father.

Irlmaier:
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Everything calls peace. Shalom! Then it will occur — a new Middle East war suddenly flares up, big naval forces are facing hostility in the Mediterranean — the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkans: I see a ‘large one’ falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him –then impact is on impact. Two men kill a third high-ranked. They were paid by other people. One of the murderers is a small black man, the other a little bit taller, with bright-colored hair. I think it will be at the Balkans, but I cannot say it exactly.  When the Golden City [Prague] is destroyed, it all begins ...

At a different time, Irlmaier said:  "It starts with the Jєωs and the Arabs. That’s where it starts."
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 05:58:14 AM
I found this elsewhere about Irlmaier ...
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Finally, an (alleged) Irlmaier statement should be mentioned in this context, which was published in 2002 in Magazine-2000/No. 171 by Bernhard Bouvier (pseudonym), according to which the victim of assassination number three would be a US president. B. Bouvier quotes there the Irlmaier-witness „Gärtner“, who in turn is said to quote Irlmaier:

„The spheres of influence and areas of interest of the USA and Russia collide; There are already minor skirmishes; USA/Russia peace conference in Bucharest; The American president is αssαssιnαtҽd, whereupon the vice-president immediately declares war. …“ […]

Irritating only that another author (Leo DeGard „Armageddon“, 2003) also interviewed the witness Gärtner, but clear differences to the Bouvier version emerged. DeGard changed the location of the assassination from Bucharest to Budapest. Also, the conference in Budapest is said to have been convened „at short notice“ after Russian troops had already advanced to Belgrade (!) – and thus already violated NATO territory. Then DeGard states:

The witness […] today thinks that the ‚high-ranking person‘ is a youthful-looking American president.

So, according to this version, there's a peace conference with USA/Russia in Bucharest or Budapest, convened on short notice.

We've recently had NATO quietly pushing Zelensky to strike a deal with Russia, and Zelensky just the other day was inviting Trump to come work a peace deal (though he said he would explain to Trump why it's not possible).

LOL ... I think that a "youthful-looking American president" would definitively rule out Biden.  This one seems a bit sketchy overall but I figured it's worth throwing out there.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ascetik on November 06, 2023, 07:36:35 AM
I found this elsewhere about Irlmaier ...
So, according to this version, there's a peace conference with USA/Russia in Bucharest or Budapest, convened on short notice.

We've recently had NATO quietly pushing Zelensky to strike a deal with Russia, and Zelensky just the other day was inviting Trump to come work a peace deal (though he said he would explain to Trump why it's not possible).

LOL ... I think that a "youthful-looking American president" would definitively rule out Biden.  This one seems a bit sketchy overall but I figured it's worth throwing out there.

I don't know if you're on twitter at all @Ladislaus, but this gentleman is a good Catholic https://twitter.com/AloisIrlmaier and he posts a lot of prophecies, and often digs up some I've never heard of. Worth checking out his post/reply history.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 08:48:22 AM
I don't know if you're on twitter at all @Ladislaus, but this gentleman is a good Catholic https://twitter.com/AloisIrlmaier and he posts a lot of prophecies, and often digs up some I've never heard of. Worth checking out his post/reply history.

Thank you.  Looks like he made a similar connection, except he was referring to Ukraine.  I tie the aurora more to Irlmaier not because it was seen in Ukraine, but also in the Czech Republic and the Balkans.  lrlmaier said that WW3 would be touched off (perhaps) in the Balkans, and the first Russia response would be to wipe out Prague (the Golden city).  So both Prague and the Balkans also saw this rare red aurora.  Coupled with Irlmaier's description of fleets in the Mediterranean due to a conflict (high tensions) between Israel and the Arabs, this is interesting.

Also, in 1938, WW2 did not being IMMEDIATELY after the aurora.  It was a couple months later that Hitler annexed Sudetenland, and WW2 didn't kick off in earnest until September 1, 1939 when he invaded Poland.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 06, 2023, 08:55:54 AM
In connection to WW3 being kicked off, Irlmaier said he saw 3 numbers:  8, 8, 9 but couldn't say what they meant.

He also felt that that war would be short, seeing the number 3, whether 3 weeks or 3 months.

Then he said the war would be over in either the early winter or the Spring, but not Summer, since he saw the trees being white ... couldn't determine whether it was snow or whether it was flowers blooming.

So if the war began on August 8 (8/8), and lasted 3 months, it would be over on November 8, so in the Winter.

I always looked for a 2029 timeframe due to Our Lady's request for the consecration of Russia on June 13, 1929.  So I would have guessed 8/8/2029 (Irlmaier's 8, 8, 9).

In the end, God only knows.

What's interesting is that the Ukraine war is winding down, and I could see some peace talks somewhere like Romania or Hungary (Bucharest or Budapest) and then have some leading figure αssαssιnαtҽd there.  One could see Zelensky, opposed to the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, sabotage them by plotting an assassination.  This, together with Irlmaier writing about the high tensions in the Middle East and fleets in the Mediterranean, it does seem to suggest that we're in that timeframe.

One other clue Irlmaier gave was that some mountain near him would no longer be covered in a snow cap (for the first time in memory) when the war breaks out.  We can try to dig into that one.
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Bl Alojzije Stepinac on November 07, 2023, 08:18:41 AM
This red light in the skies looked like aurora borealis, and has been seen in Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, even in Italy. It also reminded me on that light in the sky in 1938. It could be sign that this conflict in Middle East will become WWIII. There were many prophecies about WWIII, not just from Irlmaier. I think stigmytic Marie Julie Jahenny also predicted that during WWIII there will be 3 days of darkness. And 37 days before that in Brittany there will be 2 days of darkness, as a warning for coming of 3 days of darkness. Maybe some of that is in the hidden part of the third secret of Fatima. It must be terrible, Our Lady indicated annihilation of whole nations. 
Title: Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ladislaus on November 07, 2023, 08:31:20 AM
This red light in the skies looked like aurora borealis, and has been seen in Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, even in Italy. It also reminded me on that light in the sky in 1938. It could be sign that this conflict in Middle East will become WWIII. There were many prophecies about WWIII, not just from Irlmaier. I think stigmytic Marie Julie Jahenny also predicted that during WWIII there will be 3 days of darkness. And 37 days before that in Brittany there will be 2 days of darkness, as a warning for coming of 3 days of darkness. Maybe some of that is in the hidden part of the third secret of Fatima. It must be terrible, Our Lady indicated annihilation of whole nations.

Yes, the various prophecies, including Elena Aiello and Alois Irlmaier, seem to indicate a Russian incursion into Europe.  St. Pius X also saw an vision of Russians in Genoa, Italy.  I believe that this unusual Aurora might be a warning of what's about to happen.  It's unusual both for being visible as far south as the Balkans and for being red.  Of course, the red is also ominous due to it being reminiscent of blood .. and the blood-red moon of the Apocalypse.

What I find interesting is that Irlmaier said that the first stop for the Russian will be Prague and this was seen clearly in Prague.