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Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Matthew on October 01, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Taken from another thread:


The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier (1894-1959)

The visions or dreams of Alois Irlmaier were after World War II.

 
On this page statements of Alois Irlmaier are listed, which refer to a big war in the future. Conrad Adlmaier got these statements when discussing with Alois Irlmaier and published them later. In addition also statements are listed, which Conrad Adlmaier did not publish in his books, but indicated to a third person orally. In these statements Alois Irlmaier shows an almost precise description of a large battle in the future.

"Everything calls peace, Schalom! Then it will occur - a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostiley in the Mediterranean - the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a "large one" falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him - then impact is on impact. ..."

I see three spearheads coming ... Immediately the revenge comes from across the large water. However the yellow dragon invade in Alaska and Canada at the same time. But he comes not far..."

" I see the earth like a ball before me, on whom now the white pigeons fly near, a very large number coming up from the sand. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line. When the golden city is destroyed, it begins. Like a yellow line it goes up to the city in the bay. It will be a clear night, when they begin to throw it. The tanks are still driving, but those who sit in these tanks became quite black. Where it falls down, everything will be dead, no tree, no bush, no cattle, no grass, this becomes withered and black. The houses still exist. I don't know, what it is and so I cannot tell it. It is a long line. Who goes over this line, dies. The ones, who are on the one side cannot go over to the other side. Then everything at the spearheads breaks down. They all must go to the north. What they have with them, they throw away. Nobody will come back anymore... "

"The airplanes drop a yellow powder between the Black Sea and the North Sea. Thus a death strip is created, straight from the Black Sea to the North Sea, as wide as half Bavaria. In this zone no more grass can grow, let alone humans live. The Russian supply is interrupted... "

"Swarms of pigeons ascend from the sand. Two herds achieve the combat area from the west to southwest... The squadrons turn towards the north and cut off the course of the third army. From the east there are many caterpillars. But in the caterpillars everybody is already dead, although the vehicles keep rolling on, in order to gradually stop automatic. Here, the pilots also throw off their small black boxes. They do explode, before they touch the soil, and spread a yellow or green smoke or dust. What comes in contact with this becomes dead, whether it is a human, an animal or a plant. For one year no organism is allowed to enter this area, otherwise it will expose itself to the largest mortal danger. At the Rhine the attack is finally repelled. From the three spearheads no soldier will come home anymore... "

"These boxes are satanic. When they explode, a yellow and green dust or smoke arises, everything that comes in contact to it, is dead, it is a human, an animal or a plant. The humans become quite black and the meat fall off their bones, so sharply is the poison."

"... By a natural catastrophe or something similar the Russians suddenly evade to the north. Around Cologne the last battle has started. ..."

"... At the Rhine I see a half-moon, which wants to devour everything. [The cresent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is on the flags of several Islamic countries including: Algeria, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, and Turkey.] The horns of the sickle want to close. What this means, I do not know. ..."

"Then they are flying to the north. In the center there is a mark, there lives nothing anymore, no human, no animal, no grass. They fly to the quite north, where the third spearhead had come in, and do cut off everything. So they will all be murdered, nobody from these three armies will come back home anymore. ...But then I see someone flying, coming from the east, who drops something into the large water, so that something strange will happen. The water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down, then everything is inundated (flooded). There is an earthquake and the half of the big island will sink. The whole action will not last long, I see three lines - three days, three weeks, three months, I don't know exactly, but it won't last long!"

"A single airplane, which comes from the east, throws something into the large water. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. Everything is inundated. There is an earthquake. The southern part of England slips into the water. Three large cities will be ruined: one will be destroyed by the water, the second is located so high in the Sea, that you can only see the church tower and the third falls in."

"One part of England disappears, when the thing falls into the sea, which the pilot drops. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. What this thing is, I do not know..."

"The countries at the sea are endangered of the water heavily, the sea is very unrest, the waves go high as a house; it foams, as if it would cook/boil in the underground. Islands disappear, and the climate changes. A part of the proud island sinks, if the thing falls into the sea, which the pilot drops. Then the water lifts itself as high as a tower and falls down. What this thing is, I do not know. When it comes, I do not know."

"The January will be so warm at some time that the mosquitos will dance. It can be that we already come into a time, when there won't be a normal winter at all, like we do know him now."

"...During the war the big darkness comes, which lasts 72 hours." "It will become dark at a day during the war. Then a hail impact, consisting of lightning and thunder, breaks out and an earthquake vibrates the earth. Please do not go out of the house at that time. The lights do not burn, except candle light, the current stops. Who inhales the dust, gets a cramp and dies. Do not open the windows, cover it completely with black paper. All open-standing water become poisonous and also all open-standing meals, which are not in locked doses. Also no meals in glasses, because they would not cover it up completely. Outside the death by dust goes around, many humans die. After 72 hours everything is over. But again: Do not go out of the house, do not look out of the windows, and keep the candle light burning. And pray. Overnight there will die more humans than in the two world wars before."

"...Do not open a window during during the 72 hours. The rivers will have so few water that you can easily pass them. The cattle falls, the grass becomes yellow and dry, the dead humans will become quite yellow and black. The wind drives the clouds of death off to the east."

"...The city with the iron tower becomes the victim of the own people. They ignite everything. Revolution is, and everything is going wildly. The islands before the coast sink, because the water is quite wild. I see large holes in the sea, which will be filled, when the enormous waves return. The beautiful city at the blue sea sinks almost completely in the sea and in the dirt and sand, which the sea ejects. I see three cities sinking in the south, in the northwest and in the west."

"The large city with the high iron tower is on fire. But this has been done by the own people, not by those, which came from the east. And I can exactly see that the city is made equal to the ground. And in Italy it is going wildly too. They kill many people there and the Pope flees, but many clergymen will be killed, many churches collapse. "

"In Russia a revolution breaks out and a civil war. The corpses are so much that you cannot remove them off the roads anymore. The cross comes to honours anew. The Russian people believe in God anew. The large ones among the party leaders commit suicide and in the blood the great gulity is washed off. I see a red mass, mixed with yellow faces, it is a general riot and horrable killing. Then they sing the Easter song and burn candles in front of sacral pictures. By the prayer of the Christianity the monster of hell dies; also the young people believe anew in the intercession of the God's mother."

"After the victory an emperor is crowned by the fleeing Pope. How long all this lasts, I do not know. I see three nines. The third nine brings the peace. If everything is over, a part of the inhabitants have died, and the people are frightened of God anew. The laws, which bring death to the children, become invalid after the clearing. Then peace will be. A good time. I see three crowns flashing, and a gaunt old man will be our King. Also the very old crown in the south comes to honours again."

"The Pope, who had not to flee across the water for a long period of time, returns. When the flowers bloom on the meadows, he will return and mourn for his murdered brothers."

" . . .After these events a long, lucky time comes. Those, who will experience it, will be very happy and can praise themselves lucky. But the people have to begin there, where their grandfathers began."
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Roman Catholic on October 07, 2011, 10:52:39 PM
Ethelred,

I am mildly interested in hearing a bit more about Alois Irlmaier. I had never heard of him before seeing a post you made recently.

Where did he reside post WWII, was he a practicing Catholic in good stead with the Church and local clergy? When he was alive did the Church know he was prophesying, and if so what was the Church’s reaction?

Is there a bio or autobio in English on Alois?

BTW, how was Conrad related to him?   
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 09, 2011, 09:35:27 AM
Roman Catholic, I'm going to try to answer your questions soon.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Roman Catholic on October 09, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
Thank you, Ethelred.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 18, 2011, 07:21:54 AM
This is really interesting. I can't seem to find any information on this guy anywhere! Is he a Catholic? What is the Catholic Church's view on him?

Is he a psychic or a mystic, because there's a big difference. LOL

What he says does line up with dozens of Catholic Prophecies I've read, three days of darkness etc.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 18, 2011, 07:22:51 AM
sorry, I didn't read the above post asking the same questions, more info on him would be greatly appreciated!
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 19, 2011, 04:40:40 AM
Well, difficult topic to discuss in detail in English for me. Let's try to answer some of the above poster's questions. I'm not aware of English books about Irlmaier. I only know a few in German language, and I recommend a newer one available for example at Amazon Germany (http://www.amazon.de/Alois-Irlmaier-Mann-sagt-sieht/dp/3941435019/).
The author is unfortunately not catholic, but very accurate in his investigations and inspection of sources.

My subjective, incomplete and partly maybe incorrect summary is as following. (I re-use some paragraphs which I earlier posted in the threads Elenin, the 3 day darkness comet? (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=16073&min=21) and Great Catholic Monarch Prophecies (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15970&min=12).)



I. The roman-catholic Irlmaier

Alois Irlmaier (1894 - 1959) was a simple roman-catholic craftsman in the province Bavaria (Bayern) in the catholic south of Germany, near to the Austrian border.
One day when he waited in a client's house for his client, Irlmaier watched a drawn picture of Our Lady in the room and suddenly he saw Our Lady leaning out of the picture. "Since then I was a foreseer" Irlmaier said.

Basically he just foresaw things, and so was a visionary. Maybe you could call him a psychic. For example from this moment he also identified water veins wherever he passed them, and so he concentrated his craftsmanship on building wells. This was handy and worked well. He however always kept down to earth and never became wealthy.

So this is not comparable to catholic private appearances, like when Our Lady appears and talks to people like in Fatima. Irlmaier had never obtained messages from heaven but was just a foreseer of events.
That's why the Church didn't officially care or examine his visions, because these were not strictly religious but more practical about what would happen to the people and country around Irlmaier (and sometimes beyond that). With his elder local parish priest he lived in good terms. When Irlmaier was about to die in 1959, three years before Vaticanum II (which Archbishop Lefebvre called the spiritual "Third World War" sometimes), Irlmaier told his then adult children: Stay catholic! For the love of God stay catholic!

That's a wonderful last word, isn't it?
Irlmaier was catholic buried by the parish priest.



II. Legally attested visionary

During his life the people and the press were quite interested in his visions. (In the apostate today they wouldn't. Also most of the modern (SSPX) laity isn't interested anymore in topics like Irlmaier, just the elder ones know him.) Virtually thousands visited Irlmaier. A few times he talked also about USA and Russia, and indeed some US Generals visited him after 1945 in occupied Germany.

This also attracted not so good people who defamed Irlmaier or even published wrong things in his name. So he had several battles in court. One of the most famous one was when he was charged with "illegally telling the fortune for money" and then in court foresaw an event happening at this very moment in the house of the judge. The good point is this way Irlmaier demonstrated his foreseeing competence several times "legally attested" and in front of the public, i.e. his visionary gift was actually true.
But during the years he became tired of the many quarrels and retired from publicly telling his visions.

In the beginning Conrad Adlmaier who run a regional newspaper supported Irlmaier and published several of his visions, but later on they were disunited with each other. Irlmaier said that Adlmaier would be interested in making money with his visions.



III. Smaller and bigger visions

Of Irlmaier's countless smaller visions most already took shape, including him helping the police to solve thefts, murders, missing persons and other things.
During World War II countless mothers visited him to ask if their sons on the front were still alive, and in nearly all cases his "yes" or "no" was accurate. Since there were so many no's to say and seeing the despaired mothers face to face, he finally had to stop with telling them the status of their sons because of his reasons of health.

Irlmaier's biggest vision which he underlined the most was however the very detailed one about a terrible World War III which would be ended by even much more terrible Three Dark Days, and around then a huge sign in the sky in the form of a cross would be visible to all people who then would know what it means and where they stand.

Why should his biggest vision be inaccurate when nearly all of his other foreseen events came true? Also so many other visionaries and foreseers tell basically the same about those Three Dark Days.
Irlmaier also said in detail how to behave during the Three Dark Days, like to seal all windows in the house, and that no natural light would shine (from other foreseers we know: except consecrated candles and similar).



IV. Russian invasion

Since Irlmaier was German his focus was mainly Germany and the countries around it. He foresaw the movements of the Russian invaders and the main battle places. According to Irlmaier the World War III will mainly be happening in central Europe and in Germany in particular, but the Russian invasion would happen with several of their armies attacking in parallel: one moving trough Austria (from Vienna), one coming from Northern Italy to the Alps (Genoa, like St. Pius X. foresaw), and the others Germany.

This is not so different from what we know from East European renegade militaries.

In Germany the entire area northern of the river Donau and eastern of the Rhine would be the main battlefield of the Russian attack... which is the biggest part of the country!

According to Irlmaier the biggest tank battle in this World War III would happen to the right of Cologne with the wonderful catholic cathedral, with another big tank battle happening in Ulm in South Germany with another wonderful catholic cathedral.
Since the German army which today is called Bundeswehr wouldn't generally fight the Russians according to Irlmaier (and indeed the Bundeswehr is basically neutered by now), the South-Germans, Austrians and Swiss would halt the Russians in these tank battles.

Also according to Irlmaier the Russians would drop an atom bomb into the English Channel flooding the southern part of England, parts of Holland and North Germany, etc. See the Russian politician Schirinowski.

One detail I remember is that when the Russians and "the Yellow Dragon" (probably Chinese) attack the USA, according to Irlmaier they would not be very successful. But due to the world war the USA would lose all its military bases in the world and hence become insignificant afterwards.



V. After the war -- Reconquista

According to Irlmaier after the war the remaining Germans and Europeans would be catholic again and good people. Everybody would greet other people with "Praise to Jesus Christus!", like in our former times.
He foresaw the prohibition of democracy (lovely) and the "removal of the law which killed the small children in masses". When he foresaw this nobody could imagine that Germany and virtually all other Western countries would do mass abortions!

Also he foresaw several catholic monarchs coming to power in European countries, and the crowning of a German emperor by the fled pope in a cathedral (very probably Cologne). However, this emperor would be a very humble person wearing Lederhosen (leather trousers) like the Bavarian and Austrian Germans do. So the new catholic monarchs won't be pompous ones.

To a few younger people who are now about 80 years old, Irlmaier told that they would still live when the World War III and the Three Dark Days come. So according to Irlmaier this even won't in 30 years...



VI. Irlmaier's famous timetable from the early 1950's

1. First there's an economic vitality like never before.
2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before.
3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.
4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.
5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.
6. Soon follows the revolution.
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)


In Irlmaier's original German words:

1. Zuerst kommt ein Wohlstand wie noch nie!
2. Dann folgt ein Glaubensabfall wie noch nie zuvor.
3. Darauf eine Sittenverderbnis wie noch nie.
4. Alsdann kommt eine große Zahl fremder Leute ins Land.
5. Es herrscht eine große Inflation. Das Geld verliert mehr und mehr an Wert.
6. Bald darauf folgt die Revolution.
7. Dann überfallen die Russen über Nacht den Westen.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 19, 2011, 08:14:23 AM
That is absolutely fascinating! I really appreciate you  getting the Info on him!

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Catholic Samurai on October 19, 2011, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from: IMPERATOREBT

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.


Actually that's not correct. God promised St.Patrick that He would destroy Ireland 7 years before the antichrist would come. If it does happen now, then we are going to have a very very short triumph.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 20, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: IMPERATOREBT

What he says makes a loooottt of connections with other prophecies i've read, especially the "nuke in the English channel" which explains St Patrick and St Malachys prophecies of Ireland being inundated before the end.


Actually that's not correct. God promised St.Patrick that He would destroy Ireland 7 years before the antichrist would come. If it does happen now, then we are going to have a very very short triumph.


Indeed Irlmaier foresaw the flooding of just the southern part of England including a  big town (probably London). I re-read his paragraph because in another thread I initially wrongly quoted Irlmaier of having foreseen the flooding of the entire England. But he foresaw the flooding of England's southern part which means the rest would be save including Ireland.


Also Irlmaier foresaw that after World War III and the 72 dark hours there's a huge triumph of Our Lord. He said there would be a period of peace.

This would match pretty well with Fatima. Because Irlmaier also foresaw that ... :
- the Russian invasion would fail in the end because the Russian soldiers who just ravaged Germany and other countries would be frightened by "something" so much that they try to flee northwards in wild panic,
- that their stampede would fail and the invaded people would be so angry that they would strike dead any Russian soldier, so that not a single one would return to Russia,  
- that a "wild Eastern tribe" would raid the unprotected Russia and that the blood of these Russians who stayed at home would compensate for Russia's sins (probably communism?)
- that after the victory the German army would occupy Russia for a short time (one or two years IIRC) and pacify it,
- that Russia would be converted which means become roman-catholic again.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: IMPERATOREBT on October 20, 2011, 06:03:30 AM
From what I've read, that is when the Great Monarch rises and restores order who restores the Holy Roman Empire, is a Frank with the symbol of the Fleur de Lis and fights with the zeal of El Cid. He then marches his armies from the Iberian Peninsula all the way to Russia and converts them along with the Chinese to Roman Catholicism and recaptures Jerusalem.


Is there a rough timeline as to when these things were  to pass? Because I personally think that these things are around the corner.

This war against Iran might push these things into effect. Russia and China have diplomatic and military alliances with Iran and have threatened to retaliate against the West if US NATO/UN and Israel attack Iran.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 20, 2011, 07:52:55 AM
There's a topic about The Great Monarch (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=15970) in particular, here on Cathinfo where you can find some interesting texts.

I didn't find anything in Irlmaier's visions about the great monarch who's a French Frank uniting the entire Europe and even recapturing Jerusalem. What you mention sounds like a certain Emperor with divine help at the end of time, whilst Irlmaier foresaw a period which is not the end of time.

Irlmaier foresaw an humble and ordinary German-speaking man coming from Austria (or Bavaria which is NOT Franken) who would be crowned by the pope (so be an emperor or at least a very important king) but wear his national costume Lederhosen! :-)  Irlmaier suggests that this emperor doesn't originate in the nobility but in the ordinary folk which doesn't surprise if we look at the massive corruption of the remaining nobility. So Irlmaier's emperor is an unspectacular man with Lederhosen, but still a good catholic man, and I think this is great.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on October 20, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: chaz89 on October 21, 2011, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.


I knew it when I read the first line : " In my humble and pious opinion as a faithful Roman Catholic theologian, the following claims of private revelation..." - Ron Conte. He is anything but... He wouldn't know a false prophet anymore than anyone else.

He ought to list himself as a false prophet. He's made more than one prediction that hasn't come true. The "warning and the miracle" has been predicted more than 3 times in successive years. He claims he is humble and pious and is neither. He bases just about everything on Medjugorje , that satanic cult following "apparition" that is uncatholic is almost every way.
So, take this loser with a grain of salt.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/blog.cfm?id=331

http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2008/07/medjugorje-prognostications.html


 
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: sedetrad on October 21, 2011, 10:19:49 AM
Ethereld,


Thank you for your information in this man.

Andy
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on October 21, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
Quote from: chaz89
Quote from: rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?  I can't find anything on the internet saying that the local bishop ever gave approval.  In fact I can only find the opposite.  There are a couple of websites that have Mr. Irlmaier listed as being a false prophet who made false statements about the three days of darkness and the war which precedes it.  This is entirely possible seeing that several other approved visionaries have made predictions about these events.  

http://forumarchedemarie.forumperso.com/t2775-liste-de-faussaires-de-dieu

There are ample private revelations from fully approved sources that give a clear indication of what we can expect in the near future without chasing after ones that have never received any approbation from the Church.  I personally would only give credence to the approved ones.


I knew it when I read the first line : " In my humble and pious opinion as a faithful Roman Catholic theologian, the following claims of private revelation..." - Ron Conte. He is anything but... He wouldn't know a false prophet anymore than anyone else.

He ought to list himself as a false prophet. He's made more than one prediction that hasn't come true. The "warning and the miracle" has been predicted more than 3 times in successive years. He claims he is humble and pious and is neither. He bases just about everything on Medjugorje , that satanic cult following "apparition" that is uncatholic is almost every way.
So, take this loser with a grain of salt.

http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/blog.cfm?id=331

http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2008/07/medjugorje-prognostications.html


 


I admit I agree completely with your assessment of Ronald Conte.  He says a lot of really goofy stuff and he also promotes apparitions that have been condemned.  However, I cannot find any information that states affirmatively that the Church has ever given any recognition to the prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  There is a brief statement on Wikipedia indicating that these prophecies have never received approval by the Church.  There are plenty of private revelations from approved sources that speak about Western Europe being invaded by both the Russians and Muslims and the three days of darkness which brings the minor chastisement to an end.  There is no reason to pay any heed to dubious prophecies such as these.  I suggest you read the book "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch if you are interested in knowing possible future events.  At least Mr. Birch only uses throughly approved messages.    I only mention this because it can be sinful to promote condemned apparitions and private revelations.  

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm

It is forbidden, as well as sinful, to propagate private revelations which have received a negative judgement from the local Bishop, the conference of Bishops, or the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Some people say, "I’m going to follow it until the Pope says it’s false." This is a useless guide for action in this matter - very rarely does the Pope make a pronouncement for or against a revelation.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 22, 2011, 04:31:51 AM
Quote from: Rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?

As far as I know there's no Church's official stand on the visions of Alois Irlmaier, because they've never been examined before the Church fell into paralysis mode due to Vatican II.

What Irlmaier foresaw are no private revelations in a strict sense but "just" pictures i.e. visions. I'm sure they're from above but I can't quote an official Church stand, just some traditional priests' judgement.

I don't know the website or authors' names you quoted. If they claim the Church had examined Alois Irlmaier's visions I'd be surprised and interested to see their proof.

You can always take Irlmaier's timetable and compare it to our time and its signs with your reason. Step 1 to 4 came to pass "successfully" and clearly we're in the middle of step 5 right now. I've no doubt that steps 6 and 7 will come to pass, too. But there's no need to convince anybody with Irlmaier. We will see soon for ourselves.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: chaz89 on October 22, 2011, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: Ethelred
Quote from: Rowsofvoices9
What is the Church's official stand on these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier?  Have they been approved or condemned?

As far as I know there's no Church's official stand on the visions of Alois Irlmaier, because they've never been examined before the Church fell into paralysis mode due to Vatican II.

What Irlmaier foresaw are no private revelations in a strict sense but "just" pictures i.e. visions. I'm sure they're from above but I can't quote an official Church stand, just some traditional priests' judgement.

I don't know the website or authors' names you quoted. If they claim the Church had examined Alois Irlmaier's visions I'd be surprised and interested to see their proof.

You can always take Irlmaier's timetable and compare it to our time and its signs with your reason. Step 1 to 4 came to pass "successfully" and clearly we're in the middle of step 5 right now. I've no doubt that steps 6 and 7 will come to pass, too. But there's no need to convince anybody with Irlmaier. We will see soon for ourselves.


Ethelred,  

  Would it be wrong to say the church has never made a pronoucement on Irlmaier's predictions because they were never about the church per se but about major war situations?
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: Ethelred on October 22, 2011, 09:06:42 AM
Chaz89, I think you could say this.
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Post by: Ascetik on August 23, 2012, 07:21:48 PM
Thank you for sharing this, very insightful.
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Post by: brainglitch on May 19, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
Interesting prophecies.

I wonder if the yellow "line of death" refers to chemical weapons.

During  the Cold War the US military had a number of defense plans in the event of a Soviet invasion. The majority of scenarios focused on a massive tank battle that would take place in the Fulda Gap.

Were the Soviets able to rout the NATO forces, a "nuclear tripwire" would be activated. The plan called for using tactical nukes on the leading Russian spearheads, and then following up with chemical weapons.

I have no idea if the plan is still in place, but I suppose it is certainly possible.
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: rowsofvoices9 on June 10, 2013, 07:16:41 PM
In one of my previous posts I linked to the website http://www.catholicapologetics.info/catholicteaching/privaterevelation/apparitions.htm.  Once again I apologize for this.  

Although there is some useful information contained on this website, there is also a lot that that is downright wrong and dangerous for those new to Catholic tradition.   The sections on the New Mass and Vatican II are highly problematical.  Among the most glaring errors suggested is that Paul VI had no right to reform the Sacraments and by doing so they were rendered illicit and of doubtful validity.   This is just one example of the many errors, there are a lot more.  The opinions expressed in many of the articles tends to foster a schismatic attitude which could cause some to separate themselves from the Church.

BTW, I'm still having a problem believing these prophecies of Alois Irlmaier.  I'm going to stick to the ones that have received full approval from the Church.

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Post by: Capt McQuigg on June 12, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Rows,

Why do you think Paul VI "reformed the Sacraments"?

I think even Paul VI tried to play off the whole laughable "there are no intrinsic changes" to the Mass.

I remember reading about how the Sacraments were "signals, instituted by Christ, to bring Grace."  

So, why did Paul VI feel the need to alter what Christ had established?
Title: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
Post by: KingTheoden on July 04, 2013, 09:14:53 PM
Interesting perspective.

Just a thought: it seems to be a recurring notion of the Pope having to flee Rome and take refuge somewhere in the Americas.  I wouldn't get too wrapped up in this since 'across the sea' could mean Nome, Alaska or Tierra del Fuego- or Long Beach Island, New Jersey.

If I had to make a snap guess, the Great Monarch will be an American of French and German ancestry.  We know that as a boy he will have been a great sinner but latter embraces the Faith and performs many penances.  Clearly, he will be able to lead armies in strange areas.  

Implicit in this is that he will be one of the few Catholics remaining loyal to the old rites and the spirit of the Faith as it always was.  Probably, he is hidden from the world, more or less.  And we can speculate from here.

The most important thing each of us can do is have a well-ordered Catholic life, remain in a state of grace, and know that for each of us the End might well come like a thief in the night.

As long as we are leading proper Catholic lives, which is not easy by any stretch, all things will order themselves.