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Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2023, 06:13:55 PM »
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.
Well that's interesting, I had not heard that.
I recall hearing from an SSPX priest around 1990 that Archbishop Lefebvre's sister had this gift - I can't recall whether Mother Marie Gabriel or Mother Marie Christiane the Carmelite, however I think it was Mother Gabriel the cofounder of the Society nuns, as I seem to recall the story was in relation to finding water at the Society's newly aquired property in Albano.

Pseudoscience or natural gift? Wikipedia would say pseudoscience, but hearing the above story gave me reason to think otherwise.

Here is some interesting history from Wiki:

Early divination and religion

 
Dowsing originated in ancient times, when it was treated as a form of divination. The Catholic Church, however, banned the practice completely.[12]

Reformer Martin Luther perpetuated the Catholic ban, in 1518 listing divining for metals as an act that broke the first commandment (i.e., as occultism).[12][13]

Old texts about searching for water do not mention using the divining twig, and the first account of this practice was in 1568.[14][15] Sir William F. Barrett wrote in his 1911 book Psychical Research that:
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...in a recent admirable Life of St. Teresa of Spain, the following incident is narrated: Teresa in 1568 was offered the site for a convent to which there was only one objection, there was no water supply; happily, a Friar Antonio came up with a twig in his hand, stopped at a certain spot and appeared to be making the sign of the cross; but Teresa says, "Really I cannot be sure if it were the sign he made, at any rate he made some movement with the twig and then he said, ' Dig just here '; they dug, and lo ! a plentiful fount of water gushed forth, excellent for 'drinking, copious for washing, and it never ran dry.' " As the writer of this Life remarks: "Teresa, not having heard of dowsing, has no explanation for this event", and regarded it as a miracle. This, I believe, is the first historical reference to dowsing for water.[16][17]
In 1662, divining with rods was declared to be "superstitious, or rather satanic" by a Jesuit, Gaspar Schott, though he later noted that he was not sure that the devil was always responsible for the movement of the rod.[18] In southern France in the 17th century, it was used to track criminals and heretics. Its abuse led to a decree of the inquisition in 1701, forbidding its employment for purposes of justice.[19]




Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2023, 07:23:25 PM »
Seems to work well for finding water, not so much heretics.

There's nothing superstitious involved. Water creates a magnetic field underground. It's absurd to consider it a sin to use them for the location of wells, which Alois Irlmaier did, and people still do to this day with great success.



Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2023, 08:47:35 PM »

Here are some introductory talks on Alois.

He was a Catholic mystic and his visions of WWIII are supported by other reputable Catholic mystics.

Alois (Part I)


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Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2023, 06:46:12 AM »
I do know he was using divining rods, which is a superstitious practice that the Church has condemned.

It's easy to write something off as "superstition" when modern "science" has no explanation for it.  One could go through hundreds of different medical practices by various cultures that modern science claim were superstition, only to LATER discover that there was something to them.  As some else posted here, there could be various scientific causes, and simply because we don't know what these are doesn't mean the practice is superstitious.  These "divining" rods have been used for so long and by so many different cultures that there has to be something to it.  They must have had a good amount of success with it, or the practice would not have survived.

Re: The Prophecies Of Alois Irlmaier
« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2023, 08:47:40 AM »
It's easy to write something off as "superstition" when modern "science" has no explanation for it.  One could go through hundreds of different medical practices by various cultures that modern science claim were superstition, only to LATER discover that there was something to them.  As some else posted here, there could be various scientific causes, and simply because we don't know what these are doesn't mean the practice is superstitious.  These "divining" rods have been used for so long and by so many different cultures that there has to be something to it.  They must have had a good amount of success with it, or the practice would not have survived.

It was told by several older SSPX priests that Archbishop Lefebvre's sister, a nun, had a talent for using the "divining" rod.