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The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
« on: June 05, 2021, 02:35:42 PM »
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  • This is pretty much my take as well.  

    The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-pentagon-is-behind-the-fake-alien-agenda/

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #1 on: June 05, 2021, 05:08:45 PM »
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  • The problem with this author is that he claims no such technology exists; it is just a plot to pretend that such technology exists -- as if the globalists are that stupid.

    He unfairly attacks Serge Montast in order to steer people away from looking into what he said that got him killed.

    He cites Jacque Vallee, but fails to mention that Vallee said such vehicles exists and are probably demonic in nature.

    He fails to out the fake staged alien invasion as demonic -- almost as if he himself it part of a controlled opposition. People who believe this author over Serge Montast are being set up to be completely frightened when the fake staged alien invasion plan is rolled out starting June 25.

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #2 on: June 05, 2021, 06:46:46 PM »
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  • I find his arguments quite reasonable.


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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 07:32:40 PM »
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  • He cites Jacque Vallee, but fails to mention that Vallee said such vehicles exists and are probably demonic in nature.
    Where does he state that? I've been meaning to read some of his work. After I get back to finishing American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka, of course.
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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 07:36:12 PM »
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  • Pentagram and their demonic agendas. 
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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 07:41:29 PM »
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  • This is pretty much my take as well.  

    The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-pentagon-is-behind-the-fake-alien-agenda/
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    This is a fantastic article. His logic is simple and compelling: The simplest, most likely explanation for the strange videos the military has released is that the military has faked them and trained those pilots to claim they saw strange objects in the sky.
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    There is nothing impossible or even difficult about any of them. And why should we believe anything they tell us, anyway?
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    If you believe our government telling you they have videos of objects moving around in the sky violating the laws of physics, because they showed you an easily-faked video to "prove" it, then I have a nice wine bar to sell you in Islamabad.

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #7 on: June 10, 2021, 04:00:52 PM »
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  • Where does he state that? I've been meaning to read some of his work. After I get back to finishing American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka, of course.
    Jacques Vallee relates,  I pointed out in Indivisible College That the structure of abduction stories was identical to that of occult initiation rituals. Several years before, I had shown in Passport to Magonia that contact with ufonauts was only a modern extension of the age-old tradition of contact with nonhuman consciousness in the form of angels, demons, elves, and sylphs. Such contact includes abduction, ordeal (including surgical operations), and sɛҳuąƖ intercourse with the aliens. It often leaves marks and scars on the body and the mind, as do UFO abductions.9)

    Other secular UFOlogists have concluded that demonology is a strange but obviously fitting theory for alien encounters. Jacques Vallee records, “I am also tempted to accept as a working hypothesis that in remote contact occurred between human consciousness and another consciousness, variously described as demonic, angelic, or simply alien.”21)

    http://truthwatchers.com/ufos-are-demons/
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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #8 on: June 10, 2021, 05:13:26 PM »
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  • Sounds like we need to get our data, references, and arguments in order for why there can't be aliens.

    There will probably be a lot of confused and deceived Catholics -- even in the world of Tradition, I fear.

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #9 on: June 10, 2021, 05:26:53 PM »
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  • Sounds like we need to get our data, references, and arguments in order for why there can't be aliens.

    There will probably be a lot of confused and deceived Catholics -- even in the world of Tradition, I fear.
    1#  The idea of aliens has been condemned by the church.
    2# God would not have created another race of "Intelligent" beings like humans because it uproots everything we know and believe in our religion. 
     If aliens are intelligent then that means they have reason and intellect, if they have these that means they have supernatural gifts and thus a supernatural life (a soul like ours).
     If they have a supernatural life that means they have the possibility of entering heaven or hell which means when you die you get to sit next to a 6 armed lizard from neptune. 
    So do all who live to see such times but it is not for them to decide, all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #10 on: June 10, 2021, 06:06:10 PM »
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  • 1#  The idea of aliens has been condemned by the church.
    2# God would not have created another race of "Intelligent" beings like humans because it uproots everything we know and believe in our religion.
     If aliens are intelligent then that means they have reason and intellect, if they have these that means they have supernatural gifts and thus a supernatural life (a soul like ours).
     If they have a supernatural life that means they have the possibility of entering heaven or hell which means when you die you get to sit next to a 6 armed lizard from neptune.
    Oh, I was more or less hoping for Station from Bill and Ted...

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2021, 06:47:19 PM »
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  • Also I want to throw out that if they are humanlike in soul that would mean they will be either a pre-fall Adam (never have sinned, infused knowledge, etc...) or like us and had a first parents situation in which they would have needed a redeemer.
    So do all who live to see such times but it is not for them to decide, all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #12 on: June 10, 2021, 07:28:03 PM »
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  • 1#  The idea of aliens has been condemned by the church.
    2# God would not have created another race of "Intelligent" beings like humans because it uproots everything we know and believe in our religion.
     If aliens are intelligent then that means they have reason and intellect, if they have these that means they have supernatural gifts and thus a supernatural life (a soul like ours).
     If they have a supernatural life that means they have the possibility of entering heaven or hell which means when you die you get to sit next to a 6 armed lizard from neptune.
    Good post, can you give me the reference for the Church condemnation?
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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #13 on: June 10, 2021, 08:12:36 PM »
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  • Good post, can you give me the reference for the Church condemnation?
    Cassini posted here on this:
     https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/israel-'trump-knows-aliens-exist'/msg725234/#msg725234 
    Reply #25, Dec. 13, 2020:
    Catholics today should know that the heresy of aliens has long been condemned by the Church. It is not out of the question that demons will present themselves as aliens in order to undermine Catholicism. Here are some examples of early Catholic teaching on the aliens.
    In 748AD Pope Zachary I declared heretical the belief that stars were suns with similar worlds like Earth and that on these planets are other intelligent beings. In 1459 Pope Pius II condemned the doctrine ‘that God created another world than this one.’
    When the ex nihilo creation of Genesis was abandoned and the endless Big Bang evolutionary ‘creation’ theology took over, it compromised the dogma of ‘created things’ as certain witness to His existence and that mankind was special, with all life placed on a self-sufficient Earth at the very centre of the universe. Our Earth is now recast as a mere planet. If the Earth is an evolved planet with evolved life then why couldn’t other evolved planets evolve life, even intelligent life like mankind? If such life exists elsewhere one could then ask did all that God applied to human beings also pertain to aliens. This in turn leads to the idea of other Christs, another heresy long condemned by the Church.
    Long forgotten now are all the other Pythagorean heresies condemned by the Fathers over the first three centuries of the Catholic Church; an era recalled in a new book researched and written by Professor Alberto. A. Martinez.[1] In this excellent detailed and referenced book, Martinez tells us ‘St Hippolytus [170-235AD, a martyred Christian theologian] ridiculed the doctrine of infinitely many suns, moons and worlds, some inhabited.’ The Professor tells us: ‘around 260CE Pope Dionysus of Alexandria wrote a tract against the Epicureans mainly to criticize their theory that all things were composed of atoms without divine Providence.’ Martinez explains this was directed against the [Big Bang] theory that atoms clash and combine by chance ‘and thus gradually form this world and all objects in it; and more, that they construct infinite worlds.’ The book also tells us there were many Church Fathers who condemned the claim that there are many worlds like ours. He records that ‘in 384CE’ Philaster, Bishop of Brescia condemned the ‘heresy that says worlds are infinite and innumerable…whereas Scripture says that the world is one and that it teaches us that it is one.’ In 402 St Jerome complained that one of the most heretical claims of all was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’ St. Augustine even composed a list of 88 such heresies; the 77th was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’
    ‘Other theologians too cited this heresy for centuries. They explained the problem: “we cannot assert that there exist two or many worlds, since neither do we assert two or many Christs [the only begotten son]”’ --- Prof. A. A. Martinez.
    In 1600 Bruno was burned at the stake for spreading such beliefs, but by 2009 the Vatican was hosting a conference with scientists, astronomers and religious leaders discussing the implications for religion and human consciousness if the discovery of extraterrestrial life is found. One statement was that aliens would be part of God’s Creation and be regarded as our ‘extraterrestrial brothers.’ With Rome now entertaining what was long condemned as heresy, are we to accept we could find ourselves sharing Heaven with aliens? This leads us back to a modern version of another old heresy condemned in 748 AD, the existence of the ‘Antipodes,’ intelligent beings supposedly living beyond the reach of the Church, but this time in the form of extra-terrestrials from ‘other worlds.’
    ‘Father Funes described the discovery as ‘great news.’ Writing in the Vatican’s daily newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, he said: ‘Our galaxy contains more than a hundred billion stars. ‘Considering the number of exoplanets discovered, it seems that the vast majority of stars in our galaxy, at least potentially, can have planets where life could develop.’ He said that if there is intelligent life found on another planet, he does not see it as a contradiction to the Christian faith. He said: ‘The Bible is not a scientific book. If we look for scientific responses to our questions in the Bible, we are making a mistake. It is just over 380 years since the Catholic Church condemned Galileo for arguing that the Earth was not the centre of the universe. But it seems the Vatican has relaxed its view of mankind’s place in the cosmos and even believes there may be intelligent alien life out there. Astronomers at the Vatican Observatory, which has been studying the heavens since 1582, have said discoveries of new Earth like planets have strengthened their belief that there could be life on other planets.’ ---Mailonline, 8th Feb, 2018.      
    In 2014, the Christian Post reported that the Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno president of the Vatican Observatory, proposed the eventual discovery of alien life forms after Pope Francis (2013-), mouthing about alien life forms during Mass at the Vatican, used the analogy that even Martians, should they ever visit Earth, would be welcome to be baptised. Baptism of course is a sacrament that erases Original Sin inherited only by all the descendants of Adam and Eve. Why then would a pope offer to baptise a Martian? To subject this sacrament to science-fiction and heresy shows us a rotten fruit of the Galilean reformation
    [1] Alberto A. Martinez: Burned Alive, Reaktion Books, London, 2018, p.61
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/israel-'trump-knows-aliens-exist'/15/

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    Re: The Pentagon Is Behind the Fake Alien Agenda
    « Reply #14 on: June 10, 2021, 08:22:36 PM »
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  • Cassini posted here on this:
     https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/israel-'Tɾυmρ-knows-aliens-exist'/msg725234/#msg725234
    Reply #25, Dec. 13, 2020:
    Catholics today should know that the heresy of aliens has long been condemned by the Church. It is not out of the question that demons will present themselves as aliens in order to undermine Catholicism. Here are some examples of early Catholic teaching on the aliens.
    In 748AD Pope Zachary I declared heretical the belief that stars were suns with similar worlds like Earth and that on these planets are other intelligent beings. In 1459 Pope Pius II condemned the doctrine ‘that God created another world than this one.’
    When the ex nihilo creation of Genesis was abandoned and the endless Big Bang evolutionary ‘creation’ theology took over, it compromised the dogma of ‘created things’ as certain witness to His existence and that mankind was special, with all life placed on a self-sufficient Earth at the very centre of the universe. Our Earth is now recast as a mere planet. If the Earth is an evolved planet with evolved life then why couldn’t other evolved planets evolve life, even intelligent life like mankind? If such life exists elsewhere one could then ask did all that God applied to human beings also pertain to aliens. This in turn leads to the idea of other Christs, another heresy long condemned by the Church.
    Long forgotten now are all the other Pythagorean heresies condemned by the Fathers over the first three centuries of the Catholic Church; an era recalled in a new book researched and written by Professor Alberto. A. Martinez.[1] In this excellent detailed and referenced book, Martinez tells us ‘St Hippolytus [170-235AD, a martyred Christian theologian] ridiculed the doctrine of infinitely many suns, moons and worlds, some inhabited.’ The Professor tells us: ‘around 260CE Pope Dionysus of Alexandria wrote a tract against the Epicureans mainly to criticize their theory that all things were composed of atoms without divine Providence.’ Martinez explains this was directed against the [Big Bang] theory that atoms clash and combine by chance ‘and thus gradually form this world and all objects in it; and more, that they construct infinite worlds.’ The book also tells us there were many Church Fathers who condemned the claim that there are many worlds like ours. He records that ‘in 384CE’ Philaster, Bishop of Brescia condemned the ‘heresy that says worlds are infinite and innumerable…whereas Scripture says that the world is one and that it teaches us that it is one.’ In 402 St Jerome complained that one of the most heretical claims of all was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’ St. Augustine even composed a list of 88 such heresies; the 77th was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’
    ‘Other theologians too cited this heresy for centuries. They explained the problem: “we cannot assert that there exist two or many worlds, since neither do we assert two or many Christs [the only begotten son]”’ --- Prof. A. A. Martinez.
    In 1600 Bruno was burned at the stake for spreading such beliefs, but by 2009 the Vatican was hosting a conference with scientists, astronomers and religious leaders discussing the implications for religion and human consciousness if the discovery of extraterrestrial life is found. One statement was that aliens would be part of God’s Creation and be regarded as our ‘extraterrestrial brothers.’ With Rome now entertaining what was long condemned as heresy, are we to accept we could find ourselves sharing Heaven with aliens? This leads us back to a modern version of another old heresy condemned in 748 AD, the existence of the ‘Antipodes,’ intelligent beings supposedly living beyond the reach of the Church, but this time in the form of extra-terrestrials from ‘other worlds.’
    ‘Father Funes described the discovery as ‘great news.’ Writing in the Vatican’s daily newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, he said: ‘Our galaxy contains more than a hundred billion stars. ‘Considering the number of exoplanets discovered, it seems that the vast majority of stars in our galaxy, at least potentially, can have planets where life could develop.’ He said that if there is intelligent life found on another planet, he does not see it as a contradiction to the Christian faith. He said: ‘The Bible is not a scientific book. If we look for scientific responses to our questions in the Bible, we are making a mistake. It is just over 380 years since the Catholic Church condemned Galileo for arguing that the Earth was not the centre of the universe. But it seems the Vatican has relaxed its view of mankind’s place in the cosmos and even believes there may be intelligent alien life out there. Astronomers at the Vatican Observatory, which has been studying the heavens since 1582, have said discoveries of new Earth like planets have strengthened their belief that there could be life on other planets.’ ---Mailonline, 8th Feb, 2018.      
    In 2014, the Christian Post reported that the Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno president of the Vatican Observatory, proposed the eventual discovery of alien life forms after Pope Francis (2013-), mouthing about alien life forms during Mass at the Vatican, used the analogy that even Martians, should they ever visit Earth, would be welcome to be baptised. Baptism of course is a sacrament that erases Original Sin inherited only by all the descendants of Adam and Eve. Why then would a pope offer to baptise a Martian? To subject this sacrament to science-fiction and heresy shows us a rotten fruit of the Galilean reformation
    [1] Alberto A. Martinez: Burned Alive, Reaktion Books, London, 2018, p.61
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/israel-'Tɾυmρ-knows-aliens-exist'/15/
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