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Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
« on: November 16, 2010, 08:01:38 AM »
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  • Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd, Says Bush Just Did “What We Would Expect Him To Do”
     

    By John Lofton
    Editor, TheAmericanView.com

    Well, now. For-the-record, as just one American citizen, and a Christian, as Bachmann claims to be, I do not “expect” any President to order the torture of anybody. In any event, here’s some of what Bachmann had to say on Fox News (O’Reilly, 11/9/10). The topic being George Bush’s new book , and some recent interviews, in which Bush admits and defends his ordering and approving the use of torture:

    BACHMANN (re: why some on the “Left” think we’re bad because we torture): Well, it almost seems as though they need to come up with some sort of a case to defend the people who are making this action, the radical terrorist. And here, take a look at the terrorist, who have beheaded people like Daniel Pearl. They don’t think twice about that….they’re trying to find some sort of a defense here, because it seems that America is always wrong. America is always the bad guy in their scenario…We’re not.

    COMMENT: Huh? To denounce torture is really about trying to make a case for the “terrorists?!” Yep, that’s what the lady said — which is ridiculous. No, I think some on the “Left” think we’re bad people because people who torture people are bad people!

    BACHMANN (still on topic of anti-torture people on the “Left”): And, they continue to take the side that is always running America into the ground.

    COMMENT: When President Bush approved and ordered torture, it was Bush who was the one “running America into the ground.”

    BACHMANN: But, there is no commonality between American soldiers and what American soldiers do and terrorists, who would blow up buildings and kill 3,000 innocent people and then proclaim that they want to continue to take acts of violence like that forward. There is no moral equality if you will between what our American soldiers are doing and the terrorists. And, we need to stand clearly with the side of common sense and national security.

    COMMENT: Bachmann here rushes into a topic where angels should fear to tread, that is our atrocities versus their atrocities. **First, torture itself is terrorism! So, when Bachmann defends torture then she is a terrorist! In addition, we’ve acted as “terrorists” in our current two unGodly, unConstitutional wars. In Iraq, “shock and awe,” remember? What is that other than, in apart, an attempt to “terrorize?” Napalming villages/people in Vietnam War was “terror.” Two atom bombs on open Japanese cities was “terror.” The entire Allied bombing campaign in WW2 that killed/murdered hundreds of thousands was “terror.” No, Bachmann does not want to go there**.

    BACHMANN (re: Bush ordering, approving torture): The president was only doing what we would expect him to do.

    COMMENT: And, presumably, Osama bin Laden & Al-Qaeda are just doing what millions of Muslims expect them to do when they terrorize us!

    BACHMANN: Had he not garnered that information? Had some terrible tragic accident occurred? The president would have been blamed, I dare say, by the same people who are accusing him.

    COMMENT: Maybe. Most likely true. But, so what?! The prospect of being criticized for not torturing is not a rationale for torturing!

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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 08:12:41 AM »
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  • From 1988 to 1993, Bachmann was a U.S. Treasury Department attorney in the US Federal Tax Court located in St. Paul. According to Bachmann, she represented the Internal Revenue Service "in hundreds of cases"[7] (both civil and criminal) prosecuting people who underpaid or failed to pay their taxes.[8] She left her government position to become a full-time mother.[9]
    Bachmann has openly embraced the practice of witchcraft.


    (comment, not sure how accurate the last statement is on Wikipedia, no citation given, would be leery of repeating that. Of note, she prosecuted people based on a illegal income tax statute, maybe someone should send her Russo’s movie, then again, likely she would not get “it”. Sad she spent millions and ruined lives for an illegal, unconstitutional tax.)

    Bachmann had grown up in a Democratic family, but says she became a Republican during her senior year at Winona State. She told the (Minneapolis) Star Tribune that she was reading Gore Vidal's 1973 novel, Burr: "He was kind of mocking the Founding Fathers and I just thought, 'I just remember reading the book, putting it in my lap, looking out the window and thinking, 'You know what? I don't think I am a Democrat. I must be a Republican.


    (comment-so, this is the informed decision to switch from one wing of the Same Party to the other?? Wiki entry notes she is prolife but oddly, is pro torture)


    Bachmann introduced the Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act, to repeal the ban on conventional light bulbs in favor of compact fluorescent light bulbs.

    (wow, sure the Founders would be proud the Feds got involved in your light bulbs)

    In 2006, Bachmann stated that she would vote to permit abortion in cases of rape and incest.[113

    (she is pro-death, with exceptions)
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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 11:42:24 AM »
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  • Why would she care about torture on Muslims when she thinks a baby should be sliced and diced for the crimes of it's father. Still watch the "Trad Catholic" groups defend the Tea Party and the Republicans.

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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 12:59:04 PM »
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  • True, like they do Palin, who also has exceptions ot abortion....

    pray for me tonight, having dinner w/parents....normally, nice, but they can bebig time Neocons....
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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 01:41:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
    From 1988 to 1993, Bachmann was a U.S. Treasury Department attorney in the US Federal Tax Court located in St. Paul. According to Bachmann, she represented the Internal Revenue Service "in hundreds of cases"[7] (both civil and criminal) prosecuting people who underpaid or failed to pay their taxes.[8]



    So much for being a member of the "Tea Party". Man I tell you, people have no idea who the hell they're voting for.
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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 03:04:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
    True, like they do Palin, who also has exceptions ot abortion....

    pray for me tonight, having dinner w/parents....normally, nice, but they can bebig time Neocons....


    Oh I will. Just pretend you are and little MK Ulta Cultie and say, wow did you see how much clearer the sky is with the Republicans sweeping congress. And, my cakes rise like never before, dust does not fall in my house anymore  and then say, gosh darn it I forgot to set record for Sarah Palin's Alaska!!! :roll-laugh2:

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    Tea Party Queen Michelle Bachmann Joins Pro-Torture Crowd
    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 03:09:35 PM »
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  • I usually practice a lot of moderation and switch subjects much....
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