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Suspicious fire guts largest counterintelligence operation
« on: October 26, 2006, 09:02:51 AM »
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  • NSA Facility that Houses U.S. Army's Largest Counterintelligence Unit Destroyed by Fire


    What was "The Deuce" up to? Did they find something that they weren't supposed to find? Worse, maybe they were going to do something about it.

    Also, in 9/11 Mysteries - Demolitions, remember all the bits about construction in the days before the attacks. Hale Hall had "minor construction" underway when it burst into flames.

    Someone could make a career out of researching this incident:

    Nicknamed "The Deuce" and led by Col. Christopher L. Winne who took command in July, the 902nd is the Army's largest counterintelligence unit with more than 1,000 people.

    According to the its Web site, the group "conducts counterintelligence activities in support of Army commanders and to protect Army forces, secrets and technologies by detecting, identifying, neutralizing and exploiting foreign intelligence services and international terrorist threats."

    Its "core competencies" include espionage, computer forensics, surveillance and polygraph, the Web site states.

    NBC's Dateline program reported last December that members of the 902nd infiltrated an anti-war Quaker group in Florida called the Truth Project.

    The Truth Project was deemed to be a threat, NBC reported.

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    Suspicious fire guts largest counterintelligence operation
    « Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 11:18:17 AM »
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  • Wait, CounterIntelligence?  What's their job?
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    Suspicious fire guts largest counterintelligence operation
    « Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 01:16:11 PM »
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  • That's what I was thinking --

    Just like some of our Intelligence agencies knew there were Al-Qaeda cells in the US, etc. but Bush FORBID anyone to touch them...

    You sometimes have government workers doing their jobs, and run up against the plans of "them" and something has to be done.

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    Suspicious fire guts largest counterintelligence operation
    « Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 01:18:17 PM »
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  • Yeah, but I didn't think they'd bother keeping CounterIntelligence after they "fused" all of our intelligence agencies together.

    "Bush FORBID anyone to touch him"
    Is that a typo?
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    Suspicious fire guts largest counterintelligence operation
    « Reply #4 on: October 26, 2006, 10:03:25 PM »
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  • Yes, I meant "them".

    Here is the definition of "Counter-intelligence":

    Counter-intelligence is the activity of preventing the enemy from obtaining secret information, such as careful classification and control of sensitive information and spreading disinformation.

    Counter-espionage is spying directed against an enemy's spy system, such as by recruiting agents in foreign intelligence organs.

    Most governments and militaries have organizations which specifically fulfill this role. Methods include surveillance of suspects and their communications, undercover agents, monitoring the behavior of legally accredited 'diplomatic personnel' (some of whom are sometimes actually spies or spy handlers), and similar means.

    When spying is discovered, counter-intelligence agencies are usually formally legally empowered to arrest espionage suspects, but it is often more productive to keep a careful eye on them to see what they know, where they go, and whom they talk to. Furthermore, disinformation can be used to deceive inimical organizations' (such as terrorist groups) or hostile countries' spies and their sponsors, or make them cease their activities if they learn their information has become unreliable and/or their secrecy has been compromised. Intelligence and counterintelligence activities occur not only between governments but between industries as well as criminal and, as stated before, terrorist groups.


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