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Offline St Giles

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Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2024, 05:31:32 PM »
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  • I think prepping is prudent if you are capable, just like you should prep for winter and spring when there will be little to no harvesting going on. Just don't rely on it as your salvation, because it can spoil and be stolen. So few people garden enough to rarely rely on grocery stores such that they'd need to save up a couple season's worth of food. What happens when disaster strikes and the stores run out and you only have 2 weeks of store bought food in the pantry/freezer in winter?
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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #16 on: May 13, 2024, 05:49:53 AM »
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  • I think prepping is prudent if you are capable, just like you should prep for winter and spring when there will be little to no harvesting going on. Just don't rely on it as your salvation, because it can spoil and be stolen. So few people garden enough to rarely rely on grocery stores such that they'd need to save up a couple season's worth of food. What happens when disaster strikes and the stores run out and you only have 2 weeks of store bought food in the pantry/freezer in winter?

    Great points.  According to a paraphrase of the old adage, you can prepare as though everything depends on you while realizing that everything, including any ability / inclination you have to prep now, depends on God.  I've thought about what it would be like during a truly SHTF scenario.  If I have chickens in my backyard, and the general population are starving, how long before they're stolen?  Would I be willing to shoot desperate/starving people trying to steal them?  Do I have enough ammo?  Would they then come in a mob and simply attack and overwhelm me and my family?  If I'm running a generator while everyone else is without power, I will be noticed.  So, unless someone has some large acreage in the middle of nowhere, it would be prudent to find some low-key types of preps that would not be noticed and which could be hidden well.  I believe that gold/money would be worthess, since you can't eat them, and people would trade pounds of gold (if they had it) for a loaf of bread.  Cigarettes, IMO, would become the closest thing to a "currency" during such times.  In addition, the government has been known to outlaw "hoarding", to make gold illegal (confiscate it), etc.  So if things get bad enough, preps might be worthless.  You'd probably even have desperate starving crowds going out into the country looking for farm animals to kill.  I think that many preppers underestimate the amount of violence and "mob rule" that will come about when millions of people have missed a few days' worth of meals in a row.  I also believe that whatever scenario comes about will have been engineered by the government, and the government will set up some food distribution centers (after a lengthy period of mob rule), making it so that only those who have complied with various mandates (taking another jab) or social credit requirements are eligible to receive food.  Our perception about how people would behave when many millions are starving are probably not correct.  It'll probably look like the BLM/Antifa riots ... except they'll be ubiquitous and not just taking place in little pockets as they did before.  And if you have anything, you're much more likely to be targetted than if you're starving like everyone else.  Others have these fantasies that if they have enough guns and ammo they can fight off the crowds, but enough people coming at you at the same time, people desperate enough to risk their lives for food, will quickly overwhelm you, and if that doesn't work, they'll set your home on fire out of spite.  So the best thing would be to remain as hidden and "low-key" as possible with your preps.


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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #17 on: May 13, 2024, 08:08:14 AM »
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  • What happens when disaster strikes and the stores run out and you only have 2 weeks of store bought food in the pantry/freezer in winter?

    That's how a regular practice of Catholic fasting can be thought of as a form of prepping too. The Holy Ghost's gift of fortitude is in part for times like these. ;)
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #18 on: May 13, 2024, 09:37:25 AM »
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  • Our Lady of LaSallette said:

    If they are converted, the stones and rocks will change into mounds of wheat, and the potatoes will be self-sown in the land.

    (BTW  I am planting potatoes in my backyard  garden today)

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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #19 on: May 13, 2024, 02:09:50 PM »
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  • I think prepping is prudent if you are capable, just like you should prep for winter and spring when there will be little to no harvesting going on. Just don't rely on it as your salvation, because it can spoil and be stolen. So few people garden enough to rarely rely on grocery stores such that they'd need to save up a couple season's worth of food. What happens when disaster strikes and the stores run out and you only have 2 weeks of store bought food in the pantry/freezer in winter?

    Thank you for putting in the caveat: if you are capable. I find it takes money, but even more it takes space. Where to put the stuff? I try to keep water in the house and canned meat is, I think, the best overall option. But I don't have room for months' and months' worth. Also I think it takes training. No one in their right mind would presuppose that he will be left alone to enjoy his stash. What could a person without training do amidst the chaos that would certainly ensue if the stores really did run out of money? No prepper will be left to himself. And if he is prepared to shoot to kill to defend his goods, how long could he hole up if people came in gangs? 

    If it comes to this, then it is a Divine intervention, and the good will suffer with the bad. 





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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #20 on: May 13, 2024, 02:18:16 PM »
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  • That's how a regular practice of Catholic fasting can be thought of as a form of prepping too. The Holy Ghost's gift of fortitude is in part for times like these. ;)

    Indeed.  People who aren't used to fasting could break down into violence within a day or two of going without food.

    On the other hand, perhaps the best form of prepping is to put on weight.  If I were to put on an extra 200 pounds, I could probably go a year without eating.  :laugh1:  That is in fact the body's own prepping system.  AND, unless they want to cook you, carve you up, and eat you, they can't really take those preps away.  Not that I would normally want to live like that.

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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #21 on: May 13, 2024, 03:05:12 PM »
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  • Great points.  According to a paraphrase of the old adage, you can prepare as though everything depends on you while realizing that everything, including any ability / inclination you have to prep now, depends on God.  I've thought about what it would be like during a truly SHTF scenario.  If I have chickens in my backyard, and the general population are starving, how long before they're stolen?  Would I be willing to shoot desperate/starving people trying to steal them?  Do I have enough ammo?  Would they then come in a mob and simply attack and overwhelm me and my family?  If I'm running a generator while everyone else is without power, I will be noticed.  So, unless someone has some large acreage in the middle of nowhere, it would be prudent to find some low-key types of preps that would not be noticed and which could be hidden well.  I believe that gold/money would be worthess, since you can't eat them, and people would trade pounds of gold (if they had it) for a loaf of bread.  Cigarettes, IMO, would become the closest thing to a "currency" during such times.  In addition, the government has been known to outlaw "hoarding", to make gold illegal (confiscate it), etc.  So if things get bad enough, preps might be worthless.  You'd probably even have desperate starving crowds going out into the country looking for farm animals to kill.  I think that many preppers underestimate the amount of violence and "mob rule" that will come about when millions of people have missed a few days' worth of meals in a row.  I also believe that whatever scenario comes about will have been engineered by the government, and the government will set up some food distribution centers (after a lengthy period of mob rule), making it so that only those who have complied with various mandates (taking another jab) or social credit requirements are eligible to receive food.  Our perception about how people would behave when many millions are starving are probably not correct.  It'll probably look like the BLM/Antifa riots ... except they'll be ubiquitous and not just taking place in little pockets as they did before.  And if you have anything, you're much more likely to be targetted than if you're starving like everyone else.  Others have these fantasies that if they have enough guns and ammo they can fight off the crowds, but enough people coming at you at the same time, people desperate enough to risk their lives for food, will quickly overwhelm you, and if that doesn't work, they'll set your home on fire out of spite.  So the best thing would be to remain as hidden and "low-key" as possible with your preps.


    Can you recommend a generator?  I need one for the upcoming Hurricane season.   I  have checked into the Generac generators that power your entire your entire home and flip on automatically.  The cost is way over my budget with installation, it’s $10,000. 

    I have also investigated some of the solar panel generators and the gas-fueled ones, especially the ones made by Honda. They are quite noisy and need to run outside. The thought of going 10 ten days or two weeks during the Florida summer is unbearable.



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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #22 on: May 13, 2024, 04:30:36 PM »
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  • The thought of going 10 ten days or two weeks during the Florida summer is unbearable.
    My heart bleeds for you!!!!
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #23 on: May 13, 2024, 05:35:25 PM »
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  • My heart bleeds for you!!!!

    Another useless post by you. When you a friend or family of yours dies from carbon monoxide poisoning because they don't know how to operate one of these generators then you can use as much sarcasm as you would like.

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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #24 on: May 13, 2024, 09:54:13 PM »
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  • Can you recommend a generator?  I need one for the upcoming Hurricane season.  I  have checked into the Generac generators that power your entire your entire home and flip on automatically.  The cost is way over my budget with installation, it’s $10,000. 

    I have also investigated some of the solar panel generators and the gas-fueled ones, especially the ones made by Honda. They are quite noisy and need to run outside. The thought of going 10 ten days or two weeks during the Florida summer is unbearable.

    I like the flexibility of the dual fuel propane/gasoline generators and try to store propane.  Benefit of propane is that it can store forever without degrading like gasoline would.  You could get a large propane tank that's big enough to provide for an entire home, but I've opted for 30-lb tanks because they're portable and can be moved around.  Of course, generators are noisy ... unless you get a solar-charged battery bank with an inverter, but the solar panels needed to keep those charged can be prohibitively expensive.  I would mostly use the propane for hot water, cooking, and heating in emergencies, dealing without electricity for scenarios where the attention from the noise would be not be desirable.  Yes, Florida could be tough without A/C, but short of having a $20K solar setup, your only option would be a generator (and those are all noisy).

    There are some that advertise being very quiet ... but I'm not sure what that means, and if people see that you have lights when everyone else is in the dark, that could be a giveaway.

    https://www.harborfreight.com/5000-watt-dual-fuel-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-remote-start-and-co-secure-technology-70143.html

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pulsar-9-500-Watt-Super-Quiet-Dual-Fuel-Inverter-Generator-with-CO-Alert-and-Remote-Start-PGD95BISCO/323778414

    They claim to be around 70 decibels, which they say is about the sound of an average washing machine.

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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #25 on: May 14, 2024, 12:23:39 PM »
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  • I like the flexibility of the dual fuel propane/gasoline generators and try to store propane.  Benefit of propane is that it can store forever without degrading like gasoline would.  You could get a large propane tank that's big enough to provide for an entire home, but I've opted for 30-lb tanks because they're portable and can be moved around.  Of course, generators are noisy ... unless you get a solar-charged battery bank with an inverter, but the solar panels needed to keep those charged can be prohibitively expensive.  I would mostly use the propane for hot water, cooking, and heating in emergencies, dealing without electricity for scenarios where the attention from the noise would be not be desirable.  Yes, Florida could be tough without A/C, but short of having a $20K solar setup, your only option would be a generator (and those are all noisy).

    There are some that advertise being very quiet ... but I'm not sure what that means, and if people see that you have lights when everyone else is in the dark, that could be a giveaway.

    https://www.harborfreight.com/5000-watt-dual-fuel-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-remote-start-and-co-secure-technology-70143.html

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pulsar-9-500-Watt-Super-Quiet-Dual-Fuel-Inverter-Generator-with-CO-Alert-and-Remote-Start-PGD95BISCO/323778414

    They claim to be around 70 decibels, which they say is about the sound of an average washing machine.

    Thanks, Lads. I was looking at the first one you sent, the Predator has excellent reviews. I'll be running it for Fans, fridge, microwave, stove, some lights and maybe to power the water heater temporarily.   The solar generator I was looking at is below. 

    https://4patriots.com/products/super-charged-solar-generator-bundle


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    Re: So are ((they)) planning an EMP this weekend?
    « Reply #26 on: May 15, 2024, 08:23:10 AM »
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  • Check out Jackery.com as well- They are running a 15% off sale and they might have something comparable to the Patriot. We have a cheaper model and it is a good product.