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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2012, 10:54:50 AM »
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  • hoping that this is one of those defeats for NWO......sort like Bush's half assed attempt tp get rid of Chavez, mess that he is, to be sure.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #31 on: August 09, 2012, 04:25:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: Starry Plough
    Brotherfrancis have you seen Syriangirl on YouTube?


    Sorry to take so long to respond.  I try not to follow the on-line blogging too efficiently.

    But I have watched her videos a little.  She seems sensible enough.  Frequently we Catholics need to be very careful about distinguishing between our own Catholic vocabulary and the vocabularies of non-Catholics.  Which means here that in the Middle East "secularism" isn't necessarily a bad thing because it may not mean the same as in our own Catholic vocabulary.  I think that "secular" Syria today is among the most virtuous and religious nations on earth.  Considering the dark times we're in, of course.

    Whatever her religion, I can only wish Syrian Girl well.

    May her Army prove victorious and protect her!

     :pray:



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    « Reply #32 on: August 12, 2012, 08:31:14 AM »
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  • The Bloodlust of Walter Russell Mead
    Syria and the regime-changers' credo of death

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/08/05/the-bloodlust-of-walter-russell-mead/

    by Justin Raimondo, August 06, 2012
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    Good news — the Syrian rebels are mellowing! McClatchy news agency reports from the front lines:

    “Abu Abdullah said that the [rebel military] council had ordered the executions of some 150 men since the beginning of the conflict, but that the rate had declined as the rebels feel the neighborhood is ‘cleaned’ of pro-regime elements.

    “’In the beginning, we would execute 10 or 15 men a week,’ he said. “Now it’s closer to one every 10 or 20 days.’”

    That’s what I call progress. Before you know it, they’ll go to monthly executions. Maybe they’ll even stop putting prisoners in cars rigged with explosives and then detonating the vehicle remotely when it approaches a government checkpoint — another charming practice noted by McClatchy. But don’t get your hopes up….

    So barbarous are these “rebels” that they record their atrocities for posterity by making videos and posting them on YouTube: they expect the world to applaud them rather than step back in horror. Over at the US State Department, they aren’t exactly applauding, but then again neither are they backing off their support for the “Free Syrian Army”: “We condemn actions like that,” said Jay Carney, former Obama shill at Time magazine and now the official White House spokesman, “but [he] quickly added that Syrian government forces have perpetrated “the overwhelming amount of violence in Syria.”

    Just wait until the rebels get in power: they’ll soon match — and perhaps outstrip — the atrocities the Assad family has committed in its decades of dictatorship. Summary executions, the “cleansing” of neighborhoods, the car bombs, the imposition of Sharia law on the “liberated” areas — the Islamist reign of terror in Syria has just begun, and you are paying for it with your tax dollars. Remember that when tax time comes along.

    Yes, the US government “condemns” these monsters, but they’re footing the bill for the ιnѕυrrєcтισn, championing the rebels in international diplomatic forums, and sending aid directly to these monsters. What does a condemnation out of Carney’s mouth mean in this context?

    Next to nothing. After all, why should the US do anything more than lamely try to distance themselves from the rebels’ bloodthirsty jihad — when our own military does much worse as a routine matter? We launch cowardly drone attacks on distant targets, raining death on women, children, donkeys, and anyone or anything that gets in our way, killing thousands of civilians. We lock up prisoners — most of whom are innocent — without charges and keep them for years. Our decades-long campaign to carry out regime-change in Iraq resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians, not only in the course of the fighting but also in the run-up to the shooting: sanctions murdered many thousands of children and old folks. And we justify it all with a barrage of lying propaganda — and brazen arrogance — which is lapped up by the “mainstream” media.

    The real military heft of the rebel army is provided by Al Qaeda and its affiliates, while the “Free Syrian Army” is basically a myth: the reality is that the FSA is just a name, while the rebels’ military assets are located in a myriad of local militias under the control of radical Islamists. When Syrian newscaster Mohammed al-Saeed was kidnapped from his home in Damascus by rebel forces, his execution was publicized in a video with the Al Qaeda flag flying in the background. “May this be a lesson to all who support the regime,” the kidnappers declared. If this isn’t terrorism, then there is no real meaning attached to the term. The murder was claimed by the “Al Nusra Front,” a local gang of jihadists who openly support Al Qaeda. Al Nusra has been behind most of the really spectacular successes pulled off by the rebels: the ѕυιcιdє bombing in Damascus that killed top Ba’ath party officials, including the minister of defense; a raid on the heavily fortified Syrian Air Force building in Damascus and numerous other attacks on targets throughout the country.

    Of course, no Westerner who supports the rebels could actually defend these atrocities, which is why Carney and his bosses are issuing empty “condemnations. Oh, but wait: we haven’t taken into account Walter Russell Mead, the noted foreign policy analyst and neocon-par-excellence, who writes:

    “We think the human rights crusaders calling for the arrest of the rebels after these executions are barking up the wrong tree. Revolutionary Syria has no courts and no law at the moment. To speak of ‘crimes’ in circuмstances like this is to make rhetorical noise, not to enunciate valid principles of law. Aleppo is in a state of nature, where there can be no crimes and the law of the jungle is pretty much all that applies.”

    To warmongers of Mead’s ilk, who glories in his “hard-headed” invocation of the Law of the Jungle, the idea of moral law — a law above states, courts, and the apparatus of coercion — is just “rhetorical noise.” Glorious “revolutionary Syria,” where US tax dollars are going to fuel Washington’s regime-change operation in the Middle East, exists in “a state of nature” — a condition that underscores the real nature and goal of our policy in the region.

    What the Americans are doing in Syria goes way beyond mere “war crimes.” In the past, acts deemed “war crimes” mostly consisted of random incidents, rather than pre-planned efforts to, say, exterminate an entire people. The nαzιs are recalled with universal loathing precisely because of the exceptional character of their horrific crimes. The Communists, although less loathed, engaged in similarly large-scale atrocities. What is happening in Syria is the planned extermination of a nation, rather than a people. While it’s true US support for the rebels is a dagger aimed at the heart of Syria’s Christian and Alawite minorities, the effective elimination of these groups isn’t the goal of our regime-changers: their purpose is to atomize the Syrian state and produce a region in chaos. To divide, smash up, and remake the Muslim world — that’s the long-range goal. In the short term, however, they’ll settle for a blow struck at their principal enemy in the region. The rebels are but a lure, which this administration is hoping will reel in a really big catch: the Iranians.

    The kidnapping of dozens of Iranian religious pilgrims in Syria — also claimed by Al Nusra — and the rebels’ contention that the pilgrims are in reality “Iranian Revolutionary Guards” sent in to aid the regime, is a clear provocation. Adding fuel to the fire, the rebels proclaim their intention to target any and all Iranians on Syrian soil: just the sort of tactic one might expect of a terrorist group, which murders indiscriminately. Note that in this account, Al Nusra is wearing its “Free Syrian Army” hat, another clue to the interchangeability of these supposedly separate groups.

    The FSA/Al Nusra terrorist ethos is the perfect instrument for carrying out the Western agenda of regional chaos. While Jay Carney can issue all the condemnations he wants, the atrocities committed by America’s Syrian sock-puppets are the key to the success of our strategy in the Middle East. And as thousands die, Mead can effectively tell us to look the other way. After all, Syria is in a “state of nature” — thanks to US government support for the rebels — and the laws of man and God are suspended. Those laws will “return” if and when our sock puppets take Damascus.

    This is the credo of the War Party, in all its insane Bizarro World glory: in articulating it so bluntly, the role of people like Mead is to justify mass murder — but is he really up to the job? He concludes his apologia for the jihadists with a call to escalate the slaughter:

    “More blood must now flow in Syria. Peace will come when the winners are tired of killing and the losers are ready to submit. There will likely be more horrendous footage uploaded to the internet. It’s as if the infamous women knitting in the shadow of the guillotine during the French Revolution had cell phones and streamed the bloody pictures to a waiting world. This revolution, at least in part, is going to be televised, and we aren’t going to like what we see.”

    It’s the War Party’s credo of death in a nutshell:

    “More blood must flow”!

    It must flow like a great river, “cleansing” pro-Assad neighborhoods in Syria, driving everything before it and welling up to break the dam of the Shi’ite regime in Iran, flooding the streets of Tehran in a scarlet rain. What’s interesting here is that Mead openly invokes the Jacobin spirit that animates the regime-changers, including himself. This is a development most of us will find a bit surprising, and maybe even shocking — except for the conservative philosopher Claes Ryn, who early on detected the Jacobin spirit in the previous administration’s foreign policy:

    “Today communism has collapsed, but another universalist ideology, the new Jacobinism, has taken its place. A difference between the French and the new Jacobinism is that the latter has chosen not France but America as mankind’s savior.”

    As Uncle Sam drags one nation after another to the guillotine, while the neocon Madame Defarges of the Twitterverse celebrate videos of summary executions, the real nature of the neocons’ “historic mission” — as professor Ryn puts it — becomes all too readily apparent.


    The danger posed by the US to the rest of the world is more than the equivalent of the threat once posed by the totalitarian ideologies of National Socialism and its Communist blood brother. Like the Communists, the warlords of Washington have their paid agents in every country, who are hard at work carrying out their orders to pulverize entire nations and leave them drenched in rivers of blood. We see them at work in Syria, and, soon we will see them in Iran.

    Onward, ever onward pushes the American juggernaut, with our Lilliputian allies following in our wake as we chart a course set for nothing less than world domination. Relentlessly aggressive, ruthless in its methods, and merciless when it comes to systematically targeting and eliminating its enemies, American imperialism is the main danger to peace and liberty on earth. None of us is safe until it is put out of business — no, not even American citizens, who can be killed by order of our commander in chief, a death sentence against which there is no defense, no trial, and no possibility of appeal.


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    « Reply #33 on: August 12, 2012, 08:33:31 AM »
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  • Moving Toward War in Syria

    by Ron Paul


    Last week the House passed yet another bill placing sanctions on Iran and Syria, bringing us closer to another war in the Middle East. We are told that ever harsher sanctions finally will force the targeted nations to bend to our will. Yet the ineffectiveness of previous sanctions teaches us nothing; in truth sanctions lead to war more than they prevent war.

    Until last year, Libyan sanctions were touted as a great success story. The regime would change its behavior. Yet NATO bombed the country anyway.

    Last week we learned that President Obama signed an intelligence "finding" directing the CIA to covertly assist rebels in Syria. The administration seems determined to fight yet another war in Syria that has nothing to do with American national interests.

    We already know that a similar "finding" was signed under the latest Bush administration directing US intelligence to undermine the Iranian government and promote regime change there. Neoconservatives have long demanded that we overthrow the Syrian government before moving on to war against Iran. This bellicosity continues regardless of which party is in the White House.

    In Syria we see once again how our interventionist policies backfire and make us less secure. Recent news reports point to ties between the Syrian opposition and al-Qaeda (and other extremist groups). A recent article in the Guardian, a British newspaper, exclaimed that, "Al-Qaida turns tide for rebels in battle for eastern Syria." The article quotes an al-Qaeda leader in Syria saying that he meets with the main US-backed Syrian rebel organization, the Free Syrian Army, "almost every day." So by promoting cινιℓ ωαr in Syria we end up fueling al-Qaeda.

    According to another recent press report, German intelligence services estimate that nearly 100 terrorist attacks have been committed by al-Qaeda or related organizations in Syria over the past six months. Last month a ѕυιcιdє bomber in Syria killed a defense minister and several top government officials. The US government, which has been fighting a "War on Terror" for more than a decade now, refused to condemn that act of terrorism.

    This raises the question of whether the US administration is supporting the same people in Syria that we have been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed these same concerns earlier this year when asked whether the US has been reluctant to arm the Syrian rebels. She answered, "To whom are you delivering them? We know al-Qaida. Zawahiri is supporting the opposition in Syria. Are we supporting al-Qaida in Syria?"

    That is a very good question. It clearly demonstrates that the United States has no business at all being involved in the Syrian cινιℓ ωαr. In the 1980s we supported a resistance movement in Afghanistan that later gave birth to elements of al-Qaeda and the Taliban. When will we learn our lesson and stop intervening in conflicts we don't truly understand, conflicts that have nothing to do with American national interests?

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul818.html
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    « Reply #34 on: August 12, 2012, 08:37:57 AM »
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  • Syria troops kill foreign-sponsored insurgents in Deir al-Zour

    Syrian security forces have killed several insurgents during clashes in the eastern city of Deir al-Zour as fighting continues between government troops and terrorists in the country.


    The Syrian forces engaged the insurgents in Deir al-Zour on Saturday.

    Fighting has continued in the city over the past few days.

    On May 19, nine people were killed and about 100 others injured in a car bombing carried out outside the security headquarters in Deir al-Zour.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/11/255706/syria-insurgents-killed-in-deir-alzour/


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    « Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 08:39:02 AM »
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  • Largest nations on Earth converge to support embattled Syrian government.
    by Tony Cartalucci

    August 11, 2012 - Iran has recently hosted 30 nations including Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Ecuador, Afghanistan, Algeria, Iraq, Oman, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Cuba, Jordan, Tunisia, Palestine, and many others in Tehran this week in efforts to support the Syrian government against foreign destabilization. Upon the agenda were calls to end foreign arms currently flowing into terrorist hands inside Syria, proposals to broker a meaningful ceasefire, the coordination of humanitarian aid, and supporting the Syrian people's right to reform without foreign interference.

    The unique conference featured representatives of over half of the world's population, and signals that indeed, Syria's government is not as "isolated" as portrayed by Western neo-imperialists.
    The meeting comes as revelations emerge that the United States, United Kingdom, NATO-member Turkey, and members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) are supplying weapons, cash, and other assistance to foreign militants with direct links to Al Qaeda. These include Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) militants who are in fact listed by both the US State Department and the UK Home Office (page 5, .pdf) as a foreign terrorist organization and a proscribed terrorist organization respectively.

    As foreign militants continue to flow over Syria's borders bolstered with an increase in foreign aid, sectarian violence has spiraled out of control. The UN has categorically failed to condemn the West's state sponsorship of international terrorism now ravaging Syria. It appears that nations around the world, including shareholders in the Anglo-American establishment, may be having second thoughts about the increasingly untenable enterprise the West has chosen to pursue.

    Earlier this month, during a Saudi-Qatari sponsored, US-UK-backed UN resolution, a large number of nations either voted no, abstained, or failed to attend the vote, indicating slipping support for what is sometimes called the "Washington consensus."

    US, GCC, and NATO actions in Libya in support of sectarian militants to install a stable of Western-created proxies into power has stripped away much of the "primacy" of "international law" and left the willfully abused geopolitical tenant of "responsibility to protect" (R2P) irrevocably in tatters. With the West's attempted destabilization of Syria stalled, global public opinion has grown aware of the true nature of Syria's so-called "rebels," and that many are foreign fighters committing an array of abhorrent atrocities. The UN's failure to act, or even worse, its role in facilitating what equates to military aggression couched in "humanitarian" pretenses, jeopardizes international law all together.

    The West has ungracefully faced this quandary of its own creation by simultaneously attempting to use the presence of Al Qaeda terrorists as a causus belli to militarily intervene while also rebranding Al Qaeda as champions of freedom in Syria. One breathtaking account was given by the Fortune 500-funded Council on Foreign Relations in their article, "Al-Qaeda's Specter in Syria," claiming:

    "The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now."

    Clearly, no nation in good conscience, or at least interested in self-preservation, could condone the overt destabilization of Syria by foreign powers with disingenuous motives, using listed-terrorist organizations to do so. The potential of this same ploy then being turned against other nations including members of Iran's 30 nation conference, or even the US and UK's "Friends of Syria" confabs, becomes increasingly more likely if such tactics are not condemned and altogether balked.

    While US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton talks of "no-fly zones" with NATO-member Turkey this week, the successful conference in Tehran illustrates that any such act of aggression will be carried out unilaterally, further undermining the West's own contrived "international order" with a growing number of nations standing in direct opposition, not in support of, Wall Street and London's next move.

    Iran plans to hold another such conference later this month.


    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/...-isolated.html

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    « Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 08:46:59 AM »
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  • The Irish Times - Monday, August 13, 2012

    Media coverage of Syrian violence partial and untrue, says nun

    PATSY McGARRY, Religious Affairs Correspondent

    A NUN who has been superior at a Syrian monastery for the past 18 years has warned that media coverage of ongoing violence in that country has been “partial and untrue”. It is “a fake”, Mother Agnes Mariam said, which “hides atrocities committed in the name of liberty and democracy”.

    Superior of the Melkite Greek Catholic monastery of St James the Mutilated in Qara, in Syria’s diocese of Homs, which is in full communion with Rome, she left Ireland yesterday after a three-day visit during which she met representatives of the Irish Catholic Bishops’ Conference in Maynooth.

    She told The Irish Times she was in Ireland “not to advocate for the (Assad) regime but for the facts”. Most news reports from Syria were “forged, with only one side emphasised”, she said. This also applied to the UN, whose reports were “one-sided and not worthy of that organisation”.

    UN observers in Syria had been “moderate with the rebels and covered for them in taking back positions after the withdrawal of heavy equipment, as seen so tragically in Homs”, she said.

    When it was put to her this suggested the whole world was out of step except for Syria, Russia and China, she protested: “No, no, there are 20 countries, including some in Latin America” of the same view.

    The reason the media was being denied easy access to Syria currently was because in the Libyan conflict journalists placed electronic devices for Nato in rooms used at press conferences in that country, she said. “So Syria didn’t want journalists,” she said.

    Christians make up about 10 per cent of Syria’s population, dispersed throughout the country, she said. The Assad regime “does not favour Christians”, she said. “It is a secular regime based on equality for all, even though in the constitution it says the Koran is the source of legislation.”

    But “Christians are less put aside [in Syria] than in other Islamic countries, for example Saudi Arabia,” she said. “The social fabric of Syria is very diverse, so Christians live in peace.”

    The “Arab ιnѕυrrєcтισn” under way in that country included “sectarian factions which promote fundamentalist Islam, which is not genuine Islam”, she said.

    The majority of Muslims in Syria are moderate and open to other cultural and interfaith elements, she said. “Wahhabism (a fundamentalist branch of Islam) is not open,” she added.

    Christians in Syria were “doubtful about the future if the project to topple the regime succeeded”. The alternative was “a religious sectarian state where all minorities would feel threatened and discriminated against”, she said.

    There was “a need to end the violence”, she said. “The West and Gulf states must not give finance to armed ιnѕυrrєcтισnists who are sectarian terrorists, most of whom are from al-Qaeda, according to a report presented to the German parliament,” she said.

    “We don’t want to be invaded, as in Aleppo, by mercenaries, some of whom think they are fighting Israel. They bring terror, destruction, fear and nobody protects the civilians,” she said. There were “very few Syrians among the rebels”, she said. “Mercenaries should go home,” she said.

    What she and others sought in Syria was “reform, no violence, no foreign intervention.” She hoped for “a new, third way, a new social pact where the right to autodetermination without outside interference” would be respected.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...322099930.html

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    « Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 08:59:26 AM »
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  • Syria: Western-backed filth on the run...zenga zenga


    Despite being assailed on all fronts by marauding gangs of terrorists, many foreigners, pouring into the country across borders secured by NATO forces, Damascus has been officially sterilised of terrorist filth and while the largest city, Aleppo, is surrounded, the scourge are shaving off their beards.

    The western-backed filth in Syria - foreign mercenaries, terrorist groups, FUKUS Axis (France UK US) special forces and local misfits, criminals and agents provocateurs - is on the run. Damascus has been officially cleansed of this filth, as the last district infested by the darlings of Obama, Cameron, Clinton and Hague (the worst two leaders of diplomacy in the history of their countries) and now the new self-styled wannabe Napoleon with a Dutch name, Hollande, is sterilised.

    Zenga, zenga.

    Filth? Yes, filth. The crud from the bottom of the barrel, the human excrement scraped from the very dregs of society across Libya, the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) and the FUKUS Axis murderers, set loose in what has now become a crystal-clear policy of destabilising countries by proxy, sparking off colour revolutions by finding the disaffected on the fringe of society, arming and training them and then turning them into Mujaheddin.

    It worked in Afghanistan, sort of, until the Mujaheddin morphed into the Talebaan and 9/11 was the thank-you note in a city famous for its support of "activists". Anyone heard of NORAID? In Iraq it did not, because despite funding the Sunni "insurgents" the country suffers civilian death rates through militant action the wrong side of cινιℓ ωαr statistics.

    Libya? The country has been destroyed, it is now a failed State, the lot of the people changed from peace and prosperity, free housing, free education, free healthcare, all their needs catered for and replaced with what? Thank you William Hague, thank you Hillary Clinton. Great job...great job...

    And once again in Syria what do we see? These days ladies and gentlemen, we see the west is clearly linked to terrorism. We all know how social networks are controlled and hacked, we all know how inconvenient videos and articles and pieces of information disappear. True, new networks will soon replace the existing ones, new networks which practise the precepts of freedom of speech and freedom of expression, instead of just expounding them.

    In Syria what we see is Western-backed terrorist groups, masterfully out-manoeuvred by the Syrian Armed Forces. And for those who are about to launch howls of derision at this article, here we go: What is Fatah al-Islam doing in Syria, the group described by the USA as a terrorist group with connections to al-Qaeda (2007.08.09)? What is LIFG doing in Syria, the group proscribed by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office as a terrorist group, then supported in Libya and now transported to Syria? And what are Libyan terrorists doing in Syria? What are British, French, US and Turkish military assets doing in Syria? They don't tell you about that one do they? What is a Turkish General doing in Syria? And French military personnel?

    And what about the Western-backed MeK? State Department terrorist list then delisted. All you have to do to get delisted is to play the game, meaning you take your orders from Washington or its agencies. Basically a terrorist is an activist that does not buy weapons from the NATO arms lobby; an activist is a terrorist who does. An insurgent is somewhere in the middle

    Ask Hillary "War Zone" Clinton or William "Jefferson" Hey! Murdering the Gaddafi grandkids was soooo cool...Hague. These two people have done more to destroy the credibility of their countries for decades to come than any other cabal of disease-ridden criminals. The credibility of the external policy of the FUKUS-Axis is zero and that means the external policy of the USA, UK and France.

    They are terrorist supporters and then run crying like ninnies when their terrorists turn against them. He who lives by the sword dies by the sword. Their policy might have disrupted the Jamahiriya in Libya (temporarily) but it has met its measure in Syria.

    The western-backed terrorists are being slaughtered. Zenga zenga. They may complain that air power is being used against them, but then again...what the hell did NATO and the FUKUS-Axis do in Libya? What was that you were saying, Hillary "War Zone" Clinton and William, "if only they knew" Hague?

    And wow the choppers are making a lot of noise, almost as much as they made in 'Nam and in Sirt, eh what? Time for zenga zenga... Are Washington and its poodles now going to do what? Nuke someone, as they did before?

    Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

    Pravda.Ru



    PS: Careful with the cyber terrorist attacks. It kind of goes against the notion of freedom of expression and free speech, eh what?

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...syria_filth-0/


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    « Reply #38 on: August 26, 2012, 05:13:11 PM »
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  • Everyone knows, it seems, that Syria has a deadly arsenal of chemical weapons, but almost no one is curious about how Syria managed to obtain these weapons. Back in 2003, you might recall that after American troops failed to locate Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the mainstream media had a field day.

    Prior to that time, experts, security officials, United Nations inspectors and media elites were in unanimous agreement: Saddam had wmd, he had used them several times, and he had the means to continue building more. But the left-wing media didn’t seem to care about Saddam’s brutal track record. All that mattered was that a Republican president got it all wrong, supposedly.

    Yet not long after that, we read about a massive chemical weapons attack was narrowly averted in, of all places, Jordan! Despite the large-scale nature of this would-be attack, media coverage was scant.

    At the time Jordanian authorities said the weapons came from Syria. This was in 2004. At that same time, theTrumpet.com took it a step further. My father asked in an article back in 2004, “Have some of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction been found in Jordan?”

    There had been, after all, several reports in 2003 of significant truck movement between Iraq and Syria just prior to the U.S. invasion.  Additional evidence from seized Iraqi docuмents during the war indicated that Iraq received assistance from Russia in transporting weapons and missile components across the border to Syria. Even one of Saddam’s former generals said he was “absolutely certain” wmd were transferred to Syria just before the war started in 2003.


    Today, with Syria engulfed in cινιℓ ωαr and Bashar Assad’s regime teetering in the balance, there is an understandable degree of panic about what might happen to Syria’s chemical weapons in the event of a regime change.

    Hardly anyone, though, has bothered to ask about how Syria managed to acquire such a massive stockpile of chemical weapons in the first place.  Syria’s short-lived nuclear weapons program was obliterated by an Israeli airstrike in 2007. It hasn’t used wmd on its own people like Saddam did. And it certainly hasn’t had the reputation for being a large-scale manufacturer of wmd. Not like Iraq did before 2003.

    And yet last month, when Assad’s government acknowledged that it possessed a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, no one doubted the claim. There were no intelligence reports theorizing that Syria suspended its wmd program years ago—or saying that the stockpiles simply did not exist.

    Everyone knows they exist. But no one asks how they got there—because raising that question would expose the media’s shameful record of bias and deception.



    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/9787.19.0.0/how-did-syria-acquire-massive-stockpiles-of-wmd

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    « Reply #39 on: August 27, 2012, 01:33:58 PM »
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    Everyone knows, it seems, that Syria has a deadly arsenal of chemical weapons, but almost no one is curious about how Syria managed to obtain these weapons. Back in 2003, you might recall that after American troops failed to locate Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the mainstream media had a field day.

    Prior to that time, experts, security officials, United Nations inspectors and media elites were in unanimous agreement: Saddam had wmd, he had used them several times, and he had the means to continue building more. But the left-wing media didn’t seem to care about Saddam’s brutal track record. All that mattered was that a Republican president got it all wrong, supposedly.

    Yet not long after that, we read about a massive chemical weapons attack was narrowly averted in, of all places, Jordan! Despite the large-scale nature of this would-be attack, media coverage was scant.

    At the time Jordanian authorities said the weapons came from Syria. This was in 2004. At that same time, theTrumpet.com took it a step further. My father asked in an article back in 2004, “Have some of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction been found in Jordan?”

    There had been, after all, several reports in 2003 of significant truck movement between Iraq and Syria just prior to the U.S. invasion.  Additional evidence from seized Iraqi docuмents during the war indicated that Iraq received assistance from Russia in transporting weapons and missile components across the border to Syria. Even one of Saddam’s former generals said he was “absolutely certain” wmd were transferred to Syria just before the war started in 2003.


    Today, with Syria engulfed in cινιℓ ωαr and Bashar Assad’s regime teetering in the balance, there is an understandable degree of panic about what might happen to Syria’s chemical weapons in the event of a regime change.

    Hardly anyone, though, has bothered to ask about how Syria managed to acquire such a massive stockpile of chemical weapons in the first place.  Syria’s short-lived nuclear weapons program was obliterated by an Israeli airstrike in 2007. It hasn’t used wmd on its own people like Saddam did. And it certainly hasn’t had the reputation for being a large-scale manufacturer of wmd. Not like Iraq did before 2003.

    And yet last month, when Assad’s government acknowledged that it possessed a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, no one doubted the claim. There were no intelligence reports theorizing that Syria suspended its wmd program years ago—or saying that the stockpiles simply did not exist.

    Everyone knows they exist. But no one asks how they got there—because raising that question would expose the media’s shameful record of bias and deception.



    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/9787.19.0.0/how-did-syria-acquire-massive-stockpiles-of-wmd



    The U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia would not have to worry about Assad's purported chemical weapons if they would never have started their proxy war against the Assad regime in the first place. If Assad goes down, then he has every right to take down Israel and Saudi Arabia with him. They're the main pushers for these wars in the Middle East, N. Africa and Eurasia, and they both control American foreign policy.

    The U.S. has more chemical and biological weapons stored in Utah than all nations combined.  

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    « Reply #40 on: August 27, 2012, 02:19:34 PM »
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    Everyone knows, it seems, that Syria has a deadly arsenal of chemical weapons, but almost no one is curious about how Syria managed to obtain these weapons. Back in 2003, you might recall that after American troops failed to locate Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the mainstream media had a field day.[/color]



    So do we, plus nukes that we dropped 2x on innocent civilians........and?
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    « Reply #41 on: August 27, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »
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  • We gave Saddam WMD..so, what does that makes us? and he used them on Iran, so makes us accomplices.....
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    « Reply #42 on: August 27, 2012, 02:51:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: alaric
    Syria troops kill foreign-sponsored insurgents in Deir al-Zour

    Syrian security forces have killed several insurgents during clashes in the eastern city of Deir al-Zour as fighting continues between government troops and terrorists in the country.


    The Syrian forces engaged the insurgents in Deir al-Zour on Saturday.

    Fighting has continued in the city over the past few days.

    On May 19, nine people were killed and about 100 others injured in a car bombing carried out outside the security headquarters in Deir al-Zour.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/11/255706/syria-insurgents-killed-in-deir-alzour/


    They are having their own "war on terror", that we foster on them......who then are terrorists?
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    « Reply #43 on: August 27, 2012, 02:53:24 PM »
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    Everyone knows, it seems, that Syria has a deadly arsenal of chemical weapons, but almost no one is curious about how Syria managed to obtain these weapons. Back in 2003, you might recall that after American troops failed to locate Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the mainstream media had a field day.

    Prior to that time, experts, security officials, United Nations inspectors and media elites were in unanimous agreement: Saddam had wmd, he had used them several times, and he had the means to continue building more. But the left-wing media didn’t seem to care about Saddam’s brutal track record. All that mattered was that a Republican president got it all wrong, supposedly.

    Yet not long after that, we read about a massive chemical weapons attack was narrowly averted in, of all places, Jordan! Despite the large-scale nature of this would-be attack, media coverage was scant.

    At the time Jordanian authorities said the weapons came from Syria. This was in 2004. At that same time, theTrumpet.com took it a step further. My father asked in an article back in 2004, “Have some of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction been found in Jordan?”

    There had been, after all, several reports in 2003 of significant truck movement between Iraq and Syria just prior to the U.S. invasion.  Additional evidence from seized Iraqi docuмents during the war indicated that Iraq received assistance from Russia in transporting weapons and missile components across the border to Syria. Even one of Saddam’s former generals said he was “absolutely certain” wmd were transferred to Syria just before the war started in 2003.


    Today, with Syria engulfed in cινιℓ ωαr and Bashar Assad’s regime teetering in the balance, there is an understandable degree of panic about what might happen to Syria’s chemical weapons in the event of a regime change.

    Hardly anyone, though, has bothered to ask about how Syria managed to acquire such a massive stockpile of chemical weapons in the first place.  Syria’s short-lived nuclear weapons program was obliterated by an Israeli airstrike in 2007. It hasn’t used wmd on its own people like Saddam did. And it certainly hasn’t had the reputation for being a large-scale manufacturer of wmd. Not like Iraq did before 2003.

    And yet last month, when Assad’s government acknowledged that it possessed a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, no one doubted the claim. There were no intelligence reports theorizing that Syria suspended its wmd program years ago—or saying that the stockpiles simply did not exist.

    Everyone knows they exist. But no one asks how they got there—because raising that question would expose the media’s shameful record of bias and deception.



    https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/9787.19.0.0/how-did-syria-acquire-massive-stockpiles-of-wmd



    The U.S., Israel and Saudi Arabia would not have to worry about Assad's purported chemical weapons if they would never have started their proxy war against the Assad regime in the first place. If Assad goes down, then he has every right to take down Israel and Saudi Arabia with him. They're the main pushers for these wars in the Middle East, N. Africa and Eurasia, and they both control American foreign policy.

    The U.S. has more chemical and biological weapons stored in Utah than all nations combined.  


    no one seems to care about WMD, unless in hands of non-USA pals.......our freinds? then they get a blank check, not? oops, time for a new color coded spring of change....
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    « Reply #44 on: August 27, 2012, 03:35:57 PM »
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