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Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
« on: November 15, 2022, 02:06:20 PM »
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    A Russian missile barrage on the Ukrainian power grid sent the war spilling over into neighboring countries Tuesday, hitting NATO member Poland and cutting electricity to much of Moldova.

    The strikes plunged much of Ukraine into darkness and drew defiance from President Volodymr Zelenskyy, who shook his fist and declared: “We will survive everything.”

    It was Russia’s biggest barrage yet, and some of the missiles crossed into Poland, where two people were killed, according to a U.S. official. It marked the first time in the war that Russian weapons have come down on a NATO country.

    Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information from a senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation.

    A second person confirmed that apparent Russian missiles struck a site in Poland about 15 miles from the Ukrainian border.

    But Mueller said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a “crisis situation.”

    Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

    Neighboring Moldova was also affected. It reported massive power outages after the strikes knocked out a key power line that supplies the small nation, an official said.

    Zelenskyy said Russia fired at least 85 missiles, most of them aimed at the country’s power facilities, and blacked out many cities.

    “We’re working, will restore everything. We will survive everything,” the president vowed. His energy minister said the attack was “the most massive” bombardment of power facilities in the nearly 9-month-old Russian invasion, striking both power generation and transmission systems.

    The minister, Herman Haluschenko, described the missile strikes as “another attempt at terrorist revenge” after military and diplomatic setbacks for the Kremlin. He accused Russia of “trying to cause maximum damage to our energy system on the eve of winter.”

    The aerial assault, which resulted in at least one death in a residential building in the capital, Kyiv, followed days of euphoria in Ukraine sparked by one of its biggest military successes — the retaking last week of the southern city of Kherson.

    Areas of control in Ukraine



    The power grid was already battered by previous attacks that destroyed an estimated 40% of the country’s energy infrastructure.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has not commented on the retreat from Kherson since his troops pulled out in the face of a Ukrainian offensive. But the stunning scale of Tuesday’s strikes spoke volumes and hinted at anger in the Kremlin.

    By striking targets in the late afternoon, not long before dusk began to fall, the Russian military forced rescue workers to labor in the dark and gave repair crews scant time to assess the damage by daylight.

    More than a dozen regions — among them Lviv in the west, Kharkiv in the northeast and others in between — reported strikes or efforts by their air defenses to shoot missiles down. At least a dozen regions reported power outages, affecting cities that together have millions of people. Almost half of the Kyiv region lost power, authorities said. Ukrainian Railways announced nationwide train delays.

    Zelenskyy warned that more strikes were possible and urged people to stay safe and seek shelter.

    “Most of the hits were recorded in the center and in the north of the country. In the capital, the situation is very difficult,” said a senior official, Kyrylo Tymoshenko.

    He said a total of 15 energy targets were damaged and claimed that 70 missiles were shot down. A Ukrainian Air Force spokesman said Russia used X-101 and X-555 cruise missiles.

    As city after city reported attacks, Tymoshenko urged Ukrainians to “hang in there.”

    With its battlefield losses mounting, Russia has increasingly resorted to targeting Ukraine’s power grid, seemingly hoping to turn the approach of winter into a weapon by leaving people in the cold and dark.

    In Kyiv, Mayor Vitali Klitschko said authorities found a body in one of three residential buildings that were struck in the capital, where emergency blackouts were also announced by power provider DTEK.

    Video published by a presidential aide showed a five-story, apparently residential building in Kyiv on fire, with flames licking through apartments. Klitschko said air defense units also shot down some missiles.

    Dutch Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra took to a bomb shelter in Kyiv after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart and, from his place of safety, described the bombardment as “an enormous motivation to keep standing shoulder-to-shoulder” with Ukraine.

    “There can be only one answer, and that is: Keep going. Keep supporting Ukraine, keep delivering weapons, keep working on accountability, keep working on humanitarian aid,” he said.

    Ukraine had seen a period of comparative calm since previous waves of drone and missile attacks several weeks ago.

    The strikes came as authorities were already working furiously to get Kherson back on its feet and beginning to investigate alleged Russian abuses there and in the surrounding area.

    The southern city is without power and water, and the head of the U.N. human rights office’s monitoring mission in Ukraine, Matilda Bogner, on Tuesday decried a “dire humanitarian situation” there.

    Speaking from Kyiv, Bogner said her teams are looking to travel to Kherson to try to verify allegations of nearly 80 cases of forced disappearances and arbitrary detention.

    The head of the National Police of Ukraine, Igor Klymenko, said authorities are to start investigating reports from Kherson residents that Russian forces set up at least three alleged torture sites in now-liberated parts of the wider Kherson region and that “our people may have been detained and tortured there.”

    The retaking of Kherson dealt another stinging blow to the Kremlin. Zelenskyy likened the recapture to the Allied landings in France on D-Day in World War II, saying both were watershed events on the road to eventual victory.

    But large parts of eastern and southern Ukraine remain under Russian control, and fighting continues.

    Zelenskyy warned of possible more grim news ahead.

    “Everywhere, when we liberate our land, we see one thing — Russia leaves behind torture chambers and mass burials. … How many mass graves are there in the territory that still remains under the control of Russia?” Zelenskyy asked.
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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #1 on: November 15, 2022, 02:13:43 PM »
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    Polish premier calls urgent meeting of national security committee

    Polish prime minister has called an urgent meeting of a committee for national security and defense affairs, the government spokesman said on twitter on Tuesday.

    The committee, which consists of heads of defense, interior, justice and foreign affairs ministries as well as coordinator of intelligence services, is a body that prepares and coordinates decisions on national security and defense.

    Cabinet spokesman Piotr Muller was not immediately available for a comment. His tweet did not mention what the committee was due to discuss.
    Source: Reuters (link)


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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #2 on: November 15, 2022, 02:16:40 PM »
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    Explosion kills two in Poland near Ukraine border

    Two people were killed in an explosion in Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland near the border with Ukraine, firefighters said on Tuesday.

    The Associated Press cited a senior U.S. intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles crossing into Poland.

    However, the Pentagon said on Tuesday it could not confirm reports that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland.

    "Firefighters are on the spot, it's not clear what has happened," said Lukasz Kucy, officer on duty at a nearby firefighters' post.

    Polish Radio ZET reported earlier that two stray missiles hit Przewodow on Tuesday, killing two people, without giving any more details.

    Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks sent condolences to Poland in a tweet.

    "Criminal Russian regime fired missiles which target not only Ukrainian civilians but also landed on NATO territory in Poland," he wrote. "Latvia fully stands with Polish friends and condemns this crime."

    Russia was pounding cities across Ukraine with missiles on Tuesday, in attacks that Kyiv said were the heaviest wave of missile strikes in nearly nine months of war. Some hit Lviv, which is less than 80 km (50 miles) from the border with Poland.

    Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has called an urgent meeting of a government committee for national security and defence affairs, government spokesman Piotr Muller said on Twitter.

    A government security spokesman and a representative of the prime minister's office declined to comment further.

    State-run news agency PAP reported that the Polish government would hold a meeting at 2000 GMT.

    Muller told reporters later on Tuesday that the committee was convened due to the "crisis situation", adding that relevant information will be presented to the public later. He called on media not to publish "unverified information" in the meantime.
    Source: Reuters (link)

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #3 on: November 15, 2022, 02:18:30 PM »
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  • Interestingly, someone already threw up a Wikipedia page on this event:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_missile_strike_on_Poland (or click here)

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 02:20:44 PM »
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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #5 on: November 15, 2022, 03:52:09 PM »
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    Pentagon spokesman General Patrick Ryder was asked at a briefing about reports on Poland. “We are currently aware of press releases on this. We do not currently have any information to confirm these reports. We take it seriously. I guarantee that we will provide any updated information as soon as it becomes available,” he said.
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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #6 on: November 15, 2022, 05:46:54 PM »
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  • I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #7 on: November 15, 2022, 06:28:21 PM »
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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #8 on: November 15, 2022, 07:31:19 PM »
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  • It seems like all of this has been happening too quickly and with too much coordination. (Maybe they want to ensure the trough continues to get filled?) There's too much information for me to possibly cover, so if anything else is following feel free to add onto what's here.

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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #9 on: November 15, 2022, 07:35:10 PM »
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    Russia denies striking Poland with missiles


    Moscow insists a reported explosion near the Ukrainian border is not related to its military operation

    Russia has not carried out any strikes against targets near the Polish-Ukrainian border, the defense ministry in Moscow said on Tuesday, following reports of a missile striking the village of Przewodow and killing two civilians.

    Some Western media outlets and politicians have claimed that Russia is responsible for the incident. However, no evidence has been provided to support such assertions.

    Missile fragments, photos of which were published by Polish media outlets on the scene, “have nothing to do with Russian weapons,” the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    Statements by the Polish media and officials about the alleged ‘Russian’ missiles falling in the area of the village of Przewodow are “a deliberate provocation in order to escalate the situation,” the Russian military added.

    Poland convened an emergency meeting of its national security council on Tuesday evening, after reports that at least two civilians were killed when one or more missiles struck the village in the Lublin region, just across the border with Ukraine.

    While the AP reported that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland, citing an unnamed “senior US intelligence official,” the Pentagon declined to corroborate the claim.

    “I can tell you that we don't have any information at this time to corroborate those reports and are looking into this further,” Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder told reporters, when asked about the Przewodow incident.

    Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller called on the media and the public “not to publish unconfirmed information.”

    Officials from the Baltic states blamed Russia and claimed that Poland should invoke NATO’s Article 5 in retaliation. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky accused Russia of “terrorism” and said NATO needed to “act” against this “attack on collective security.”
    Source: RT (link)


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    NATO, leaders to meet as Poland says Russian-made rocket kills two

    NATO and global leaders will meet on Wednesday after a Russian-made rocket fell on NATO member Poland and killed two people, raising concerns that the Ukraine conflict could spill over its borders.

    Russia denied it was responsible. The Polish foreign ministry said the rocket fell on Tuesday at 3:40 p.m. on Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 kilometres (3-1/2 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

    A resident who declined to be identified said the two victims were men who were near the weighing area of a grain facility.

    The ministry's statement was Poland's most detailed comment thus far. The United States and Western allies had said they were investigating but could not confirm a report that stray Russian missiles landed at the village.

    Members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are committed to collective defence under its Article 5, so a Russian strike on Poland could risk widening the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which began with Moscow's invasion in February.

    Two European diplomats said Poland requested the NATO meeting under the treaty's Article 4 for consultations among the allies. Poland was also increasing the readiness of some military units, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said.

    At the Group of 20 (G20) leaders' gathering in Indonesia, a White House official said U.S. President Joe Biden has convened a meeting of leaders on the explosion and loss of life in eastern Poland.

    Polish officials sought to avoid inflaming the situation. Morawiecki called on all Poles to remain calm, and President Andrzej Duda said there was no concrete evidence showing who fired the missile. He said the government was acting very calmly and that it was a one-off incident.

    A NATO official said the alliance was closely coordinating with Poland.

    Biden told Duda in a call that Washington has an "ironclad commitment to NATO" and will support Poland's investigation, the White House said.

    The Associated Press earlier cited a senior U.S. intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles having crossed into Poland.

    But in Washington, the Pentagon, White House and U.S. State Department said they could not corroborate the report and were working with the Polish government to gather more information. The State Department said the report was "incredibly concerning."

    Germany and Canada said they were monitoring the situation, and the European Union, the Netherlands and Norway said they were seeking more details. French President Emmanuel Macron ordered a verification effort, while Britain was "urgently" looking into the report.

    RUSSIAN DENIAL

    Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Russian missiles hit Poland in a "significant escalation" of the conflict. He did not provide evidence.

    Russia's defence ministry denied that Russian missiles hit Polish territory, describing reports as "a deliberate provocation aimed at escalating the situation".

    It added in a statement: "No strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border were made by Russian means of destruction."

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said he had no information on an explosion in Poland.

    Russia pounded cities across Ukraine with missiles on Tuesday, in attacks that Kyiv said were the heaviest wave of missile strikes in nearly nine months of war. Some hit Lviv, which is less than 80 km (50 miles) from the border with Poland.

    Fabrice Pothier, former head of policy planning in the NATO secretary-general's office, told Sky TV that in a NATO meeting officials would "consult each other, to assess the threat and to take concrete action."

    Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks said the situation was "unacceptable" and it could lead to NATO providing more anti-aircraft defences to Poland and Ukraine, a view Pothier endorsed.

    "Every inch of #NATO territory must be defended!," Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said on Twitter.
    Source: Reuters (link)

    NATO investigating, Zelenskyy escalating, and Russia denying. More on Wednesday tomorrow.


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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 07:42:16 PM »
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  • I'm sure we'll get the truth eventually, right? ::)
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 09:54:25 PM »
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  • I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.

    Yep.  Even Biden said it’s unlikely that it came from Russia.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, dxcat ... ever ready to pin stuff on Russia with zero evidence.

    Pathetic.



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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 09:55:17 PM »
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    Re: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine
    « Reply #13 on: November 15, 2022, 09:57:21 PM »
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  • I have read that it was a Ukranian air defense missile that missed it's target and landed in Poland. It doesn't make sense for Russia to strike Poland with just one missile, if they were going to strike it would be with a swarm.

    Ah, dxcat won’t let actual logic stand in his way of demonizing Russia.

    Zero cui bono here for anyone except possibly Zelensky.

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