Author Topic: Russia warns against issuing ultimatums to Iran.. (Read 10006 times)

alaric · « **on:** June 24, 2012, 09:41:31 AM »

Jєωιѕн puppets in the West unhappy Putin won't willingly go along with the genocide of Iran program and make the world safe for Israel....er, i mean, "democracy". :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-against-issuing-ultimatums-iran-174408422.html

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV | Associated Press – Fri, Jun 22, 2012

MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's foreign minister said Friday that Iran shouldn't face threats over its nuclear program and that a quick settlement of the standoff over it isn't realistic.
Sergey Lavrov said the latest round of talks in Moscow this week between six world powers and Iran has been "quite useful," even though there was no breakthrough. He said talks must continue without "any artificial deadlines or ultimatums."
Iran insists its uranium enrichment program serves only civilian purposes, but the U.S., Israel and others suspect it's a cover for building nuclear weapons. Israel has accused Iran of stretching out the talks to move closer to the ability to make an atomic bomb, and it has threatened to attack the Islamic Republic as a last resort.
Russia's President Vladimir Putin is expected to face a strong Israeli demand to take a tougher line on Iran when he visits the Jєωιѕн state next week. Lavrov's statement signaled, however, that Moscow will likely respond to Israeli calls for stronger action with its usual advice to be patient and continue talks.
"In order to settle the issue, it's necessary to refrain from constant threats of using force, abandon scenarios aimed against Iran, and stop dismissing the talks as failure," Lavrov said on Russia's Rossiya 24 television.
He said the international talks mustn't be dragged out, but that it would be wrong to "put forward any artificial deadlines and ultimatums and say that if there is no final agreement by the end of July or August — and there simply can't be any in such a (short) period — then we will end talks and launch some kind of bellicose actions."
The Kremlin has long walked a fine line on the Iranian nuclear crisis, mixing careful criticism of Iran, an important trading partner, with praise for some of its moves and calls for more talks. Although Moscow, which built Iran's first nuclear power plant at Bushehr, has backed some of the previous U.N. sanctions against Iran, it has in recent months firmly rejected new ones.
Russia — which hosted this week's round of talks with Iran that also involved the U.S., China, Britain, France and Germany — sought to put a positive spin on their outcome. Western officials outlined huge differences between the two sides, but also argued that the diplomatic track hasn't been derailed.
The negotiators agreed to hold a low-level meeting on July 3 of technical experts in Istanbul, Turkey, before deciding whether there is enough common ground to hold another round of full-fledged political talks. A pause in negotiations may offer a new opportunity for Israel to argue that military force is the only way to stop Tehran from developing atomic weapons.
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alaric · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:13:55 AM »

Putin, the man who openly challenges the Jєωs will personally go to Israel himself and show the world how a man should not cower to the little demonic, bandit state of global criminals. Putin recently settled with the Orthodox Church after years of anti-Christian Communist aggression shows how a leader does not have to be anti-religious ( See anti-Christ) in order to please the Judiacs who constantly bemoan separation of "church and state" when in actuality it's more like ѕуηαgσgυє and state.

Putin is certainly a thorn in the side of the Zionists.

And he will not play along.

alaric · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2012, 10:19:48 AM »

Jєωry’s Plan To Blackball Russia
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2012

TWO ‘MEDIA’ JєωS who enjoy lavish exposure by the Jєωιѕн-controlled Press are gritting their teeth hoping to take a bite out of Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin.
In a feature OpEd of the Jєω-dominated Financial Times, “Time To Blackball Russia’s Autocratic State,” (& Here), Ian Bremmer and Nouriel Roubini—both Jєωs—just can’t seem to satisfy the anti-Christ rats in their bellies in their malice toward Christian Russia.

Bremmer (founder of the Eurasia Group as a means of bringing Jєωιѕн hegemony over Eurasia) and Roubini (touted as an innovative economist) are calling for Russia to be “blackballed” and justify their wishful Jєωιѕн fantasy with a pack of Jєωιѕн lies:

“Corruption is endemic in Russia. Graft is a particular problem. Capital flight has reportedly accelerated since Putin’s re-election in March.

Russia’s population is falling – because healthcare is poor, socially driven diseases such as alcoholism is rampant, and well-educated Russians are leaving in search of better opportunities elsewhere.” View Entire Story Here & Here.

Indeed, a froth-full of lies spew forth from Bremmer’s and Roubini’s Jєωιѕн lips.

Contrary to their assertions, there is NO demographic crisis in Russia. The population of Russia has increased by one million since early 2011. In the first quarter of 2012, Forbes Magazine responsibly reports, Russia’s population grew by 31,000.

Yes, there was a crisis in the 90’s when the drunkard Yeltsin was in the hands of the Jєωιѕн oligarchs. But, this crisis has been gradually arrested.

BOTH PUTIN AND MEDVEDEV, (after 80 years of Jєωιѕн Bolshevik domination), are addressing corruption and graft issues.

Rumours of capital flight occurring since Putin’s re-election are exactly that, “rumours.” The rouble under Putin is actually being promoted by investment experts as the least risky investment.

And as regards “social diseases” such as alcoholism, Putin has revived the Orthodox Church; closed down all the casinos in Russia; taken over the Jєω-owned TV stations and instituted religious programming; introduced Orthodoxy 101 into Russia’s public schools; forbidden “gαy parades” — all of which are part of Putin’s efforts to stave off vice and immorality.

Moreover, for Bremmer and Roubini to heap praises upon communist China (a hundred times more repressive than Russia) while hell-bent on blackballing Russia for being an “authoritarian” state, one wonders if these Jєωιѕн ‘experts’ are simply blinded by their fear of Putin. For there is no man Jєωry fears more than Vladimir Putin.

RUSSIA FOILS JєωRY’S AGENDA
FOR SYRIA
BREMMER AND ROUBINI launched their smears against Putin by denouncing Russia’s opposition to a “humanitarian” intervention (Read: Jєωιѕн decimation of a sovereign nation) into Syria.

But Russia under Putin still has the last word with respect to Syria recommending to UN envoy, Kofi Annan, “an unbiased probe” of the murders in Houla.

Both Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, and The Associated Press, stated that the 108 murdered in Houla were killed at close range—execution style—indicating the work of armed terrorists rather than the Syrian army.

But do you think this matters to Jєωιѕн Senator, Joseph Lieberman, Romney’s favorite pick for State Department head? No.

THIS BLOODTHIRSTY Jєωιѕн warmonger Lieberman who proposes “arming” the Syrian rebels is now calling for a US military intervention to dismantle Syria into competing militias and warlords to pave the way for a Greater Israel.

But Bremmer, Roubini, and their ѕуηαgσgυє buddy, Lieberman, can spout, demand and propose all they want.

For with Russia’s arms shipment and anti-terror troops newly arrived in Syria’s Port of Tartus and with Putin’s inauguration of the Nord Stream Pipeline—heating the homes and fueling the industries of an energy-starved Europe—Jєωιѕн fantasies to “blackball” Russia are no more than paper dreams.

And since it is moral integrity that these Jєωs are scorning, not only are they on the WRONG side of history but they’re on the RIGHT side of Hell.

theology101 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2012, 02:25:50 AM »

I kind of have a man crush on Putin...

Ethelred · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2012, 03:01:49 AM »

Quote from: Hristoroquen

Hate to burst any bubbles, but both Putin and Medeved are Jєωs.

Yes, both are not to trust.

Putin wants to revive Stalin's Soviet Union covering the entire Eurasia. So he talks about the Eurasia-Union, establishes new history books in the Russian schools which adore Stalin, recently attacks the international revisionists because they unmasked Stalin, his main responsibility in WW2 (see link to Rakovsky-Interview below) and the usual Jєωιѕн lies.
Putin's annual military parade underlines the revival of Stalinism optically: the soviet flag and the hymn is already there (just not the lyrics yet).

So Putin's opposing the international communism aka US high finance mainly because he favours the national communism. It's basically the same old theater again:

Russian national communism (Stalin) versus US high finance's international communism (Trotsky).
See Stalin's interrogation of US high finance's delegate Rakovsky, summed up by Bishop Williamson.

Both camps are basically brothers and have the same origin: the anti-christian communism "established" by the Jєω Lenin in 1917 in Russia, which then spread to the entire world.
And again like in WW2, the upcoming war of communistic brothers aka WW3 will crush the apostate Europe, USA and Russia until the Churchmen follow Our Lady of Fatima.

Quote from: theology101

I kind of have a man crush on Putin...

No offence, but there's indications that Putin could be a paedophile.

alaric · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:32:11 AM »

Quote from: Hristoroquen

Hate to burst any bubbles, but both Putin and Medeved are Jєωs.

Proof?

alaric · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:35:08 AM »

" No offence, but there's indications that Putin could be a paedophile. "

Again, you need to back up such a slanderous accusation.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2012, 02:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Yes, both are not to trust.

Putin wants to revive Stalin's Soviet Union covering the entire Eurasia. So he talks about the Eurasia-Union, establishes new history books in the Russian schools which adore Stalin, recently attacks the international revisionists because they unmasked Stalin, his main responsibility in WW2 (see link to Rakovsky-Interview below) and the usual Jєωιѕн lies.
Putin's annual military parade underlines the revival of Stalinism optically: the soviet flag and the hymn is already there (just not the lyrics yet).

So Putin's opposing the international communism aka US high finance mainly because he favours the national communism. It's basically the same old theater again:

Russian national communism (Stalin) versus US high finance's international communism (Trotsky).
See Stalin's interrogation of US high finance's delegate Rakovsky, summed up by Bishop Williamson.

Both camps are basically brothers and have the same origin: the anti-christian communism "established" by the Jєω Lenin in 1917 in Russia, which then spread to the entire world.
And again like in WW2, the upcoming war of communistic brothers aka WW3 will crush the apostate Europe, USA and Russia until the Churchmen follow Our Lady of Fatima.

No offence, but there's indications that Putin could be a paedophile.

And who are we to be such moral imperialists and get into Russia's face about their "lack of democracy"? Do you realize that Russia used to be a superpower rival equal to the United States but has since lost her greatness? Perhaps other countries like their own Monroe Doctrines? If we don't like how Putin treated those oligarchs who robbed Russia blind in the 1990's perhaps he doesn't like how we treated Martha Stewart? How would the Union had responded had after the Confederacy won it's independence Britian was training Confederate troops in Tennessee, establishing naval bases in Charleston, New Orleans, and Savannah, and entered into a military alliance with the Confederacy?

Who do we 21st-century Americans think we are thinking we have the "moral right" to kill Iraqis and get into Russia's face in the name of "democracy." Would the British have had the moral right to come over here and kill us in the hundreds of thousands to stop our mistreatment of the Indians and get us to free our slaves? A society who murders its children through abortion, allows ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to marry, and gives out condoms to junior-high girls should be rushing towards the confessional, not talking about the "greatness of American values" and making other nations come to our standards of "human rights" and "social justice."

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2012, 02:14:27 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Both camps are basically brothers and have the same origin: the anti-christian communism "established" by the Jєω Lenin in 1917 in Russia, which then spread to the entire world.
And again like in WW2, the upcoming war of communistic brothers aka WW3 will crush the apostate Europe, USA and Russia until the Churchmen follow Our Lady of Fatima.

The Communism "estabablished" by Lenin (I think you meant Karl Marx) is nothing like the Russian nationalism of Putin. Oh and what on earth are you talking about? World War II was a struggle against Bolshevism and National Socialism, Hitler being extremely anti-Marxist, there was not a war against two "communistic brothers."

Ethelred · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2012, 09:01:33 AM »

Quote from: Alaric

" No offence, but there's indications that Putin could be a paedophile. "

Again, you need to back up such a slanderous accusation.

Please watch Putin taking a bath in the Russian crowd. There's some interesting recent videos where you see how Putin does so and then suddenly touches other people's young boys (5-10 years old) in an extremely "fingering mode". For example Putin raises their shirts, embraces their bare waist with both hands and then pets their belly and thoracic region.

I don't have got the links to such videos here at the moment. I watched one together with an experienced catholic who has solid knowledge on sodomites and paedophiles (he detects them long before normal people understand what's going on). He underlined to me that a normal man doesn't touch other people's small boys in such a way as Putin did, and that such fingering usually is a very strong indication that Putin could be a paedophile.

But OK, that was only the icing on the cake. The cake itself is big enough!

Keywords: Putin's revival of Stalinism, his plans for a socialist Eurasian Union, his strong recent attacks on Revisionists, etc.
There's plenty of public docuмents underling these statements, so no need for interpreting videos.

Ethelred · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2012, 09:17:59 AM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Who do we 21st-century Americans think we are thinking we have the "moral right" to kill Iraqis and get into Russia's face in the name of "democracy."

Young man, I rightly criticised the national communist Putin. But this doesn't mean I advocate the rotten Western democracies with their anti-christian democ-rats.

The East and the West are now in near total godless mode, and hence are both totally rotten, and both can only be saved by God's intervention aka Fatima (which means WW3, too, because it's too late to stop the Chastisements predicted in Fatima anymore).
It doesn't help us catholics to think one side of the West or East would solve any problem.

In the entire Europe with its extremely high abortion percentage (in Federal Republic of Germany with its population of ~ 80 Million people, there's roughly about 1,000 abortions per day), Russia has got the biggest abortion ratio. That says something, doesn't it?

By the way, I am not a 21st century American but a monarchic German, an Austrian-German to be precise. Long live the King, long live the Emperor!

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The Communism "estabablished" by Lenin (I think you meant Karl Marx)

I wrote Lenin "established" communism in Russia, and the quotation marks I used because he used terror and mass-murder to "establish" this. As always with communism (and its French forerunner 1789 -- also a Jєωιѕн invention). Read Stéphane Courtois The Black Book of Communism, 1997.

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is nothing like the Russian nationalism of Putin. Oh and what on earth are you talking about? World War II was a struggle against Bolshevism and National Socialism, Hitler being extremely anti-Marxist, there was not a war against two "communistic brothers."

Please read Bishop Williamson's sum-up of the infamous Rakovsky-interview which I linked to yesterday here in this same thread.
And then please take the time to read the entire Rakovsky protocol, you'll easily find it on the net. It will open your eyes, as the Bishop promises!

And only then you'll know (maybe) that WW2 was the war between the two unequal brothers international communism (Trotsky, whose followers overtook the USA and hold it until today) and national communism (Stalin and today Putin).

But actually I've no intention to be part of this discussion. I just wanted to support Hristoroquen's correct objection that the Russian leadership is not to trust.
(And if you read some of his older posts you'll see he knows the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan well, and their power of the USA.)

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2012, 10:31:22 AM »

I had been meaning to reply to this thread.Putin is Pro-Jєωιѕн

http://rt.com/politics/israel-putin-nαzιsm-monument-664/

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WWII history revisionism intolerable – Putin
Future generations should know the truth about WWII heroes, President Vladimir Putin stressed, adding that attempts to rewrite history and equate executors with their victims are unacceptable.
“We must do the utmost to keep the criminal nαzι doctrines a thing of the past – no matter how they may be disguised – and to make the Nuremberg Trials’ judgments inviolable,” Putin stated.
“We must keep and defend the truth about the war,” he said after attending the opening ceremony of a Red Army World War II memorial in the Israeli city of Netanya.
The rewriting of history is a crime to the millions of people who gave their lives for the victory in WWII and future generations who should know the true heroes of the war and be able “to distinguish the truth from blatant and cynical lies,” Putin stressed.
It is necessary “to oppose any attempts to justify nαzι collaborators,” Putin said. “We will never allow executors and their victims to be made equals; the misinterpretation of the truth and its replacement with various falsifications and conjectures."
The president noted that in Russia, the memory of WWII is “sacred,” adding that “we highly appreciate that our sincere feelings are shared in Israel.”
“The h0Ɩ0cαųst is one of the darkest, most tragic and shameful pages in the history of humanity,” Putin observed. “It is still impossible to stomach the nαzι atrocities. And it was the Soviet Army that put an end to that; it saved from extermination not only the Jєωιѕн, but many other peoples,” he underlined.
The idea to erect the monument was put forward by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his visit to Moscow in 2010.It was swiftly backed by the Russian leadership.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2012, 02:19:17 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

I had been meaning to reply to this thread.Putin is Pro-Jєωιѕн

http://rt.com/politics/israel-putin-nαzιsm-monument-664/
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WWII history revisionism intolerable – Putin
Future generations should know the truth about WWII heroes, President Vladimir Putin stressed, adding that attempts to rewrite history and equate executors with their victims are unacceptable.
“We must do the utmost to keep the criminal nαzι doctrines a thing of the past – no matter how they may be disguised – and to make the Nuremberg Trials’ judgments inviolable,” Putin stated.
“We must keep and defend the truth about the war,” he said after attending the opening ceremony of a Red Army World War II memorial in the Israeli city of Netanya.
The rewriting of history is a crime to the millions of people who gave their lives for the victory in WWII and future generations who should know the true heroes of the war and be able “to distinguish the truth from blatant and cynical lies,” Putin stressed.
It is necessary “to oppose any attempts to justify nαzι collaborators,” Putin said. “We will never allow executors and their victims to be made equals; the misinterpretation of the truth and its replacement with various falsifications and conjectures."
The president noted that in Russia, the memory of WWII is “sacred,” adding that “we highly appreciate that our sincere feelings are shared in Israel.”
“The h0Ɩ0cαųst is one of the darkest, most tragic and shameful pages in the history of humanity,” Putin observed. “It is still impossible to stomach the nαzι atrocities. And it was the Soviet Army that put an end to that; it saved from extermination not only the Jєωιѕн, but many other peoples,” he underlined.
The idea to erect the monument was put forward by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his visit to Moscow in 2010.It was swiftly backed by the Russian leadership.

Oh yeah trying to defend Russia's actions during World War II makes him pro-Jєωιѕн. Actually that just means he is a nationalist. Hell I was surprised he actually apologized for some of the Red Army atrocities.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2012, 02:28:04 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Young man, I rightly criticised the national communist Putin. But this doesn't mean I advocate the rotten Western democracies with their anti-christian democ-rats.

The East and the West are now in near total godless mode, and hence are both totally rotten, and both can only be saved by God's intervention aka Fatima (which means WW3, too, because it's too late to stop the Chastisements predicted in Fatima anymore).
It doesn't help us catholics to think one side of the West or East would solve any problem.

In the entire Europe with its extremely high abortion percentage (in Federal Republic of Germany with its population of ~ 80 Million people, there's roughly about 1,000 abortions per day), Russia has got the biggest abortion ratio. That says something, doesn't it?

By the way, I am not a 21st century American but a monarchic German, an Austrian-German to be precise. Long live the King, long live the Emperor!

Yeah like Kings and Emperors did so well getting rid of revolutionaries. By the way didn't the Kaisar lose the Great War because of his High Seas Fleet to challenge Britain;s power?

Look I'm not getting into the Fatima stuff since I try to think logically here and see things with reason. I am well aware of Russia's abortion rate. Every Western country has a high abortion rate.

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I wrote Lenin "established" communism in Russia, and the quotation marks I used because he used terror and mass-murder to "establish" this. As always with communism (and its French forerunner 1789 -- also a Jєωιѕн invention). Read Stéphane Courtois The Black Book of Communism, 1997.

I am well aware of Lenin's terrorism and mass-murder.

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And only then you'll know (maybe) that WW2 was the war between the two unequal brothers international communism (Trotsky, whose followers overtook the USA and hold it until today) and national communism (Stalin and today Putin).

But actually I've no intention to be part of this discussion. I just wanted to support Hristoroquen's correct objection that the Russian leadership is not to trust.
(And if you read some of his older posts you'll see he knows the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan well, and their power of the USA.)

Again what are you talking about? World War II was a struggle against Hitler and Stalin, and Hitler was hardly communist, "national" or otherwise. By the way, communism has never been national, always international. Hell even Karl Marx's book ends with "Workers of the world unite!" I am well aware of Cold War liberals and neo-cons being former Trotskyites.

rowsofvoices9 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2012, 02:05:42 PM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Quote from: Hristoroquen
Hate to burst any bubbles, but both Putin and Medeved are Jєωs.

Yes, both are not to trust.

Putin wants to revive Stalin's Soviet Union covering the entire Eurasia. So he talks about the Eurasia-Union, establishes new history books in the Russian schools which adore Stalin, recently attacks the international revisionists because they unmasked Stalin, his main responsibility in WW2 (see link to Rakovsky-Interview below) and the usual Jєωιѕн lies.
Putin's annual military parade underlines the revival of Stalinism optically: the soviet flag and the hymn is already there (just not the lyrics yet).

So Putin's opposing the international communism aka US high finance mainly because he favours the national communism. It's basically the same old theater again:

Russian national communism (Stalin) versus US high finance's international communism (Trotsky).
See Stalin's interrogation of US high finance's delegate Rakovsky, summed up by Bishop Williamson.

Both camps are basically brothers and have the same origin: the anti-christian communism "established" by the Jєω Lenin in 1917 in Russia, which then spread to the entire world.
And again like in WW2, the upcoming war of communistic brothers aka WW3 will crush the apostate Europe, USA and Russia until the Churchmen follow Our Lady of Fatima.

Quote from: theology101
I kind of have a man crush on Putin...

No offence, but there's indications that Putin could be a paedophile.

I have repeatedly tried to make this known to people on this board that Putin and Russia are no friends of ours and not to be trusted. Its good to see that others are fully aware of this.

Also, I don't think Putin should be accused of pedophilia when there is no concrete proof, only the stuff of conspiracy and speculation.