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Offline Charity

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Ron Unz and his site
« on: September 30, 2022, 10:27:50 PM »
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  • You be the judge.  In my opinion Ron Unz has one of the most highly regarded alternative web sites going.  See https://www.unz.com/  Unz and the site's regular contributors are for the most part trying to expose errors in a major way.  By and large they appear fairly well educated and fairly well informed. The site and its commenting participants for the most part obviously go very much against the (((msm))) narrative on current events and so much more.

    Nevertheless, there are no doubt some on CathInfo who would have nothing to do with the site.  Dxcat40, for example, has openly stated on a different thread that "Ron Unz promotes error about almost everything."  Again, take a look at the site.  Judge for yourself.


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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #1 on: September 30, 2022, 10:50:55 PM »
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  • Is this a panel? When do we get to cast votes?


    Offline Charity

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2022, 12:06:47 AM »
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  • Is this a panel? When do we get to cast votes?

    What is your point?  You have already made known your opinion.  I simply wanted to introduce the site to others on CathInfo who have not seen the site.  Do you have any objections to their taking a look at the site and judging for themselves?   Do you have a problem with that?

    Offline Jaycie

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #3 on: October 01, 2022, 02:23:36 PM »
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  • I agree,  Unz.com is a good site, the comments are always interesting too.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2022, 06:45:21 AM »
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  • I always thought Unz put out some pretty good stuff.


    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2022, 10:24:45 AM »
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  • Unz deserves some credit for hosting criticism of protected classes and for preserving many censored books that have otherwise been (((memory-holed))), but I think dxcat40 is correct to put a Catholic eye on Unz's own work.

    When considering the pattern of Unz's errors, I wonder if he intends his site to be a "limited hangout" or even a type of "honeypot," a place where "antisemites," "homophobes," and "racists" can hang out. Unz certainly carries much Judaic baggage. He thinks too much of himself, his theories, and, under criticism, he reverts to the standard rabbinical ploy of character assassination. He is a reasonably intelligent man, but he thinks his training long ago in a tiny niche of physics gives him infallibility and "genius" in all areas of science, even the social "sciences."  When pressed on his errors, his reflexes are (((name-calling))) and to tout his "genius."  So Jєωιѕн.

    I am amused at Unz's parallel with Einstein's self-contradictions (General vs. Special Theories). To preserve his public pose of genius he will contradict himself (contradictions far enough apart in time and place that the goyim are not likely to notice), for example, in one place he will note that the Iranian strain of COVID that killed off about 70% of Iranian leadership was possibly genetically targeted bioweapon, but when Israel's role in developing ethnic bioweapons are examined, Unz denies that he ever said even one word about COVID's ethno-genetic pleomorphisms.

    His pattern is an amusing/appalling parallel to Judaism's self-worship of the Jєωιѕн male. His criticism of the most obvious horrors of Judaic thought is joined with a secularist mode that puts him seriously adrift from the Truth (Logos) with no "anchor" except his own self-worship.




    Offline Charity

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #6 on: October 02, 2022, 01:36:32 PM »
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  • Unz deserves some credit for hosting criticism of protected classes and for preserving many censored books that have otherwise been (((memory-holed))), but I think dxcat40 is correct to put a Catholic eye on Unz's own work.

    When considering the pattern of Unz's errors, I wonder if he intends his site to be a "limited hangout" or even a type of "honeypot," a place where "antisemites," "homophobes," and "racists" can hang out. Unz certainly carries much Judaic baggage. He thinks too much of himself, his theories, and, under criticism, he reverts to the standard rabbinical ploy of character assassination. He is a reasonably intelligent man, but he thinks his training long ago in a tiny niche of physics gives him infallibility and "genius" in all areas of science, even the social "sciences."  When pressed on his errors, his reflexes are (((name-calling))) and to tout his "genius."  So Jєωιѕн.

    I am amused at Unz's parallel with Einstein's self-contradictions (General vs. Special Theories). To preserve his public pose of genius he will contradict himself (contradictions far enough apart in time and place that the goyim are not likely to notice), for example, in one place he will note that the Iranian strain of COVID that killed off about 70% of Iranian leadership was possibly genetically targeted bioweapon, but when Israel's role in developing ethnic bioweapons are examined, Unz denies that he ever said even one word about COVID's ethno-genetic pleomorphisms.

    His pattern is an amusing/appalling parallel to Judaism's self-worship of the Jєωιѕн male. His criticism of the most obvious horrors of Judaic thought is joined with a secularist mode that puts him seriously adrift from the Truth (Logos) with no "anchor" except his own self-worship.

    I took exception to dxcat40's assertion that ""Ron Unz promotes error about almost everything" as a judgment of the site itself.  I don't believe the site itself "promotes error about almost everything."  That is why I hope others can take a look at the site and judge for themselves.  See for example: https://www.unz.com/page/Jєωs-nαzιs-and-israel-articles/.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #7 on: October 02, 2022, 03:25:25 PM »
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  • I took exception to dxcat40's assertion that ""Ron Unz promotes error about almost everything" as a judgment of the site itself.
    That's not to say every article is 100% wrong, but like Mark 79 says it's a coterie of rejects with Judaic twisting and censorship in his own works. It is worse when someone provides 99% truth and 1% poison.


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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #8 on: October 02, 2022, 04:18:27 PM »
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  • While an unequivocal endorsement is not justified, I think that, in large degree, the comment section (often over 1,000 comments on any given article) rescues the site. Commenters burn Unz with searing rebuttals and bad articles are destroye din the comment section. I have noticed that it is more difficult to get "antisemitic" comments posted on weekends. I have wondered if there are Yids in the weekend woodpile. Otherwise and to his credit, Unz has generally allowed free criticism.

    Among the commenters are a couple of trolls and Chabadniks who are recognized and thoroughly roasted by regular commenters.


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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #9 on: October 02, 2022, 04:50:13 PM »
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  • That's not to say every article is 100% wrong, but like Mark 79 says it's a coterie of rejects with Judaic twisting and censorship in his own works. It is worse when someone provides 99% truth and 1% poison.

    I understand Mark 79's criticism and do not question it, however you put your own over-amplified spin/twist on what he is saying when you claim he says, "it's [the site's] a coterie of rejects with Judaic twisting and censorship in his own works."

    As for your assertion that, "It is worse when someone provides 99% truth and 1% poison" that all depends.  To use a broad brush in applying such a simplistic generalization to the Unz site doesn't do any justice to the site or the assertion.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #10 on: October 02, 2022, 05:10:29 PM »
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  • "Charity", you really ought to suppress your autistic inclinations. His site is a platform, not someone's personal blog. Of course I would have to speak in generalities. I'm not going to produce a study on the Unz site for your sensitive sensibilities. As for the rest, it's part of your bad opinion and you should reconsider, although I think you will "double down" as you say.


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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #11 on: October 02, 2022, 07:48:34 PM »
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  • "Charity", you really ought to suppress your autistic inclinations. His site is a platform, not someone's personal blog. Of course I would have to speak in generalities. I'm not going to produce a study on the Unz site for your sensitive sensibilities. As for the rest, it's part of your bad opinion and you should reconsider, although I think you will "double down" as you say.
    My "autistic inclinations," "sensitive sensibilities," and "bad opinion" is it.  Ha, you're too much!  Of course, his site is a platform and not someone's personal blog."  I never indicated in any way otherwise!  Unlike you, I don't believe the platform/site -- in your own words -- "promotes error about almost everything."  I have noticed that you appear to have a propensity for personal insults.  That's too bad, but it is what it is.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #12 on: October 02, 2022, 07:57:26 PM »
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  • I have noticed that you appear to have a propensity for personal insults.  That's too bad, but it is what it is.
    I'm not face-to-face with you having a heated personal argument. Your feeling slighted doesn't change my motivations when I post. If you put an idea up here it gets publicly debated and probably ripped to shreds on this site (see: Rhetoric). That's how it is.

    You may be a swell guy in person for all I know. I would have quit already if I took all of the times I've been attacked on here personally.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #13 on: October 02, 2022, 09:00:56 PM »
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  • Charity, one of my real life friends, is more than a swell guy. He is a courageous Catholic. We don't agree on everything, but neither of us expect us to be clones of each other.

    I also think that dxcat40 is a swell guy and a courageous Catholic.

    Neither unz.com nor Unz himself are worth a falling out between Catholic brothers.

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    Re: Ron Unz and his site
    « Reply #14 on: October 02, 2022, 10:03:44 PM »
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  • I appreciate and hope what you say is true. If he wants to let it go then that's fine by me.