Author Topic: Remember the USS Liberty (Read 3428 times)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **on:** June 09, 2014, 08:09:18 AM »

I was in Washington, DC when this event happened.

66 sailors died in this attack that lasted as long as the Japanese
attack did on Pear Harbor on 12/7/1941.

To this day, there has been no adequate explanation why Israel
attacked this WW2 vintage Victory Ship used as an Intelligence
Surveillance Gathering ship.

It was an act of God that called off two US Jets en route in nuking
Carol, Egypt.

It was an act of God, that did not allow the USS Liberty to sink
to the bottom of the Mediterranean sea.

The surviving crew was told that they were not to discussed the
attack, until years and decades latter.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** June 09, 2014, 11:55:14 PM »

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This picture is an artist's rendition, and has a lot of errors. It shows red liquid spilling from the top deck over the sides and drifting away on the surface of the water -- what is that stuff? Red paint? Why would the U.S. Liberty have that much red paint on board, and on the top deck, of all places?

The large holes in the hull look like about 3 feet in diameter. What could have made those? Many cruise missals? So that's unrealistic.

That one really huge hole in the hull is actually not so far-fetched, though, because the Liberty did suffer the explosion of a small boat loaded with explosives that came up close and detonated. Fortunately, the hull was only damaged ABOVE the water line, which was something of a miracle, they say (if it had been a few inches lower, the ship would have been impossible to save). The actual damage was not so wide (or tall) as this shows, but still, it was about the size of an average car garage door. Imagine sailing to port with a hole like that in your sides. What would observers think?

But probably the worst mistake of this image is the Israeli insignia on the jets. The US Liberty was attacked by unmarked jets. But they were Israeli planes nonetheless. The attackers tried to blame this on the Palestinians.

Since the whole incident was hushed up, there are a lot of Americans who refuse to believe that it ever happened, and it is a "conspiracy theory." The Jєωs who fired the shots are really proud of that achievement. All warfare is primarily a battle of information.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:05:20 AM »

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"It was an act of God that called off two US Jets en route in nuking Carol, Egypt."

Don't you mean Cairo, Egypt?

A grammar mistake:

"The surviving crew was told that they were not to discussed the attack, until years and decades latter."

Choices:
...they were not to discuss the attack... (most likely -- just drop the "-ed")
...they were not to have discussed the attack... (would be past tense, not likely)
...they were not going to let this attack be discussed... (too many words different)

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RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2014, 09:26:32 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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"It was an act of God that called off two US Jets en route in nuking Carol, Egypt."

Don't you mean Cairo, Egypt?

A grammar mistake:

"The surviving crew was told that they were not to discussed the attack, until years and decades latter."

Choices:
...they were not to discuss the attack... (most likely -- just drop the "-ed")
...they were not to have discussed the attack... (would be past tense, not likely)
...they were not going to let this attack be discussed... (too many words different)

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Sorry, I am not as smart as you NEIL OBSTAT.

The facts are true. Egypt was going to be blamed, it was an
act of God that the plans did not go through.

It was an emotional moment that did happen and seldom discussed
except on the alternative media.

Unless I made this post, no one on this forum would know that this
event ever happened.

Sorry, my grammar is not that good. :applause:

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2014, 10:42:26 AM »

I guess I'm naive... I presumed that trads - hip to the zionist jive - would be aware of the tragic outrageous attack on the Liberty. What horrors these men suffered.

I've listened to many alt media interviews the past few days on this sad tale, moved to tears by the incident and the bigger picture.

RIP for all victims of these evil forces and may God have mercy on our souls.

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In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph.

Thank you for bringing this to attention RC1953.

crossbro · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:41:17 AM »

I read a book about this decades ago.

There were four Israeli jets. Two first punched holes in the deck with rockets. The other two dropped napalm which seeped into the holes burning crew members.

Then, two helicopters loaded with commandos presumably to kill all the crew members where approaching the ship- the only thing that prevented massacre was a shortfall in the ability to jam the ships radios- jets were launched to counter attack from a US aircraft carrier and the Isralis, who were trying to fαℓѕє fℓαg Egypt claimed they made a mistake.

At this time the USA was allied with Egypt and France supported Israel.

claudel · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:08:15 PM »

Quote from: crossbro

… At [that] time the USA was allied with Egypt and France supported Israel.

I'm afraid you have been misinformed or are misremembering what you read. When word reached the commander of the Sixth Fleet, Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, that the Liberty was under attack, he ordered two of his carriers, the USS America and Saratoga, to launch a full complement of attack aircraft to destroy the planes and patrol boats attacking the Liberty. Intercepting the radio signals to the carrier, the Israeli command center ordered its planes and boats to do what Jєωs do best: run away. Israel then immediately issued a false report about the circuмstances of the attack ("what a terrible mistake! why weren't you goys flying a flag or something? you're making us feel bad again! haven't we suffered enough already?").

Luckily for the Liberty and its surviving crew, the Israelis didn't realize how completely their fellow Jєωs owned Lyndon Johnson and the rest of the US government. Acting under instructions from President Johnson, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara gave Admiral Geis a direct order to recall the planes. In utter disbelief, Geis replied that one of his ships was under attack. McNamara's recorded and docuмented reply was as follows: "President Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an American ally over a few sailors."

Here are links to important materials in my own online Liberty dossier.

The Moorer Commission Report

Some background on the important 2001 book by James Bamford, Body of Secrets, whose very existence has been obscured by the mainstream (i.e., Jєωιѕн) media.

One of Paul Craig Roberts's articles on the attack (from the VDARE archives).

The website started by James Ennes, a bridge officer on the Liberty who acted gallantly when the attack was launched against it, includes this list of newspaper articles about the attack.

Antiwar.com (SPOILER ALERT for the hypersqueamish: by no means a Trad or Catholic site) has been in the forefront of politically oriented sites in keeping the story of Jєωιѕн and Israeli perfidy alive. The site published yet another article on the attack on the Liberty just yesterday.

There are many other sites that try, against all odds, to keep this story alive—this one specializes in debunking the continuing stream of Jєωιѕн and Israeli lies and liars—but they get no publicity from the media and are met with constant antagonism from the government. Now that the United States is no longer populated by people of largely northern European Christian stock, its Jєωιѕн-run government and media count on interest in a story of bad stuff happening to a bunch of white guys to fade from view long, long before people forget the sacred word ~~h0Ɩ0h0αx~~ h0Ɩ0cαųst.

It's a safe bet that they're right.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:12:28 PM »

Site commemorating USS Liberty, and informing the ignorant about Israel purposely attacking it.

http://www.gtr5.com/
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John McCain confronted on USS Liberty cover-up & media accomplices

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=G2d0CKXy8HQ

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USS Liberty Cover Up (full movie):

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Israel's Assault on the U.S.S. Liberty with James Ennis, officer on board of the ship

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USS Liberty: Dead In The Water (docuмentary)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2014, 07:12:56 PM »

In the Port of Los Angeles there is a WW2 vintage Victory ship on
display and you can take cruises to Catalina and back in which I
did in the summer of 2000.
The ship was built at Calship on Terminal Island for the War effort.
It took less than a week to build one from the keel to the launching
in which they just dumped it into the water, and all built floated.
Touring that ship, it is a miracle that the USS Liberty stayed afloat
and did not sink.
I believe there is about three left worldwide. The last one was
built in 1945. The lifetime of an ocean going ship is about 40
years.
Thanks for all your feedback, and remember the USS Liberty
every June 8th.
I hope my grammar and spelling is OK this time around.

CharlesII · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2014, 07:42:36 PM »

Here's a nice short letter that people might sent to family, friends, American Legion members, etc:

Dear Friends,
This is the week to mark important 20th century historical events:
• June 4, 1989, twenty-five years ago, the Tianamen Square massacre when  unknown numbers of people died in their quest for accountability and freedom  from the established communist oligarchy.
• June 6, 1944 D Day when the western allies invaded Normandy with the largest  amphibian forces known to history.  Unfortunately there is another date this week which is mostly unknown and kept in secrecy. On the afternoon of June 8, 1967 the Israeli navy and air force repeatedly bombed our new USS Liberty in International waters off the Sinai killing 34 and injuring 173 Americans while making scrap out of our newest modern spy ship. When I first heard about it, I couldnʼt believe it. Then as I saw the video I was outraged.

Learning of President Johnsonʼs cover-up, the complicity of the press to silence this news, and the threatening and intimidating coercion forced upon the survivors to keep quiet about this news is shocking. It has been kept under wraps from the public now for 47 years. Enough!  There are several Youtubes on the subject. To start off, go to
" http://www.libertylifeline.us/ussliberty.html

which is only 10 min. Start in the middle of the 10 min. to get survivor Phil Tourney talk about how June 8th started in the morning. Itʼs only a tickler but afterwards there are about 7 or 8 videos which you can click on. One of them is over 1 hour long. I believe it is Phil Tourneyʼs.

Other Youtubes on the Liberty can be found on Google.

Meanwhile IfAmericansKnew.org has a whole detailed section on the USS Liberty with many answers. Google for yourself the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967, Phil Tourney survivor of the USS Liberty, Joe Meadors president of the USS Liberty Veterans Assn.

If you know all about this, then please forgive me. If you havenʼt heard about this then youʼre not alone. Iʼm doing this fyi because our citizens should know the truth about justice in our history.
Yours,

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2014, 07:58:48 AM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

I was in Washington, DC when this event happened.

66 sailors died in this attack that lasted as long as the Japanese
attack did on Pear Harbor on 12/7/1941.

To this day, there has been no adequate explanation why Israel
attacked this WW2 vintage Victory Ship used as an Intelligence
Surveillance Gathering ship.

It was an act of God that called off two US Jets en route in nuking
Carol, Egypt.

It was an act of God, that did not allow the USS Liberty to sink
to the bottom of the Mediterranean sea.

The surviving crew was told that they were not to discussed the
attack, until years and decades latter.

This didn't make the history books

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2014, 12:15:13 AM »

This yet again showcases how Israel owns U.S. foreign policy. When Israel does something like the bombing of the USS Liberty or sending the Jєωιѕн spy Jonathan Pollard to loot our secrets and send them to Israel, we Americans do nothing. Heaven forbid if China or a Middle Eastern country did what Israel did to us for the neo-cons would slap on their best war paint shouting for a new war (and would be joined by newspapers and the talk-show radio hosts).

America is pretty much Israel's obedient little dog and the U.S. Congress has no problem prostituting itself to AIPAC.

CharlesII · « **Reply #12 on:** December 22, 2014, 09:19:47 AM »

For those wanting more info, please see John Gidusko's site http://gidusko.com/

Avoid anything by/from Jim Ennis who has sold out to the Jєωs.

Phil Tourney's story of the attack and aftermath, written by Mark Glenn, is also well worth buying and sharing - What I Saw that Day.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2014, 11:55:54 AM »

Quote from: CharlesII

For those wanting more info, please see John Gidusko's site http://gidusko.com/

Avoid anything by/from Jim Ennis who has sold out to the Jєωs.

Phil Tourney's story of the attack and aftermath, written by Mark Glenn, is also well worth buying and sharing - What I Saw that Day.

I didn't know that about Jim Ennis. Thanks for setting the record straight.

claudel · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2014, 01:16:27 PM »

Quote from: CharlesII

Avoid anything by/from Jim Ennis who has sold out to the Jєωs.

This is far too scattershot a condemnation of Ennis, especially since it gives no indication of specific instances of falsification or of pro-Israeli/pro-Jєωιѕн slant or coverup in Ennis's Liberty site.

If you can provide some sort of corroboration, drawn from Ennis's site itself, for the charge you've made, I'll be glad to read it with care. Until then, I shall continue to recommend his site to others as an excellent source of information about the attack.

I've grown extraordinarily weary of reading unnuanced, blanket condemnations of individuals who, whatever their failings, have thought, written, or accomplished something inherently commendable, even laudable. Such condemnations, routinely issued by commenters whose own heroic virtues exist nowhere save in their own mind, are a blot on this website. They do it great dishonor.