Author Topic: Rebels shot down a Russian search and rescue helicopter (Read 2121 times)

jake1 · « **on:** November 24, 2015, 09:13:48 AM »

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/caught-tape-syrian-rebels-destroy-russian-helicopter-us-supplied-anti-tank-missile

The news is coming fast and furious out of Syria on Tuesday where, earlier today, Turkey decided to shoot down a Russian Su-24 which Ankara says violated its airspace while conducting operations near the border.

Russia says the fighter jet was in Syrian airspace for the duration of the mission while Turkey insists that the plane crossed the border and was warned several times before being engaged by two F-16s.

For his part, Vladimir Putin has now called Turkey a “backstabber” on the way to accusing Ankara of funding ISIS and derailing the war on terror.

Meanwhile, the FSA which is aligned with al-Nusra and is backed and funded by the US and Turkey released two videos depicting its fighters celebrating over the body of a dead Russian pilot.

Just in case all of that wasn’t enough, the FSA now claims to have shot down a Russian helicopter as it searched for the two missing pilots.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2015, 09:42:22 AM »

This is WW3. Turkey is a member of NATO. This is to tempt Russia to
retaliate against Turkey and NATO will intervene along with the U.S.
The West needs to get this war started to cover up the financial
collapse according to the X22 reports.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2015, 10:24:22 AM »

stgobnait · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2015, 01:32:28 PM »

Holy Mary Mother of God, Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, Amen;

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2015, 03:53:11 PM »

LATEST:

Putin closes the Turkey Embassy in Moscow and is sending all Turkish
Employees home.

The U.S. believes the Turkish version of what happened. Despite
Russian proofs.

During Vietnam war, it was always the U.S. Policy of allowing
the Vietcong to rescued their downed pilots.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2015, 04:43:15 PM »

Here is a trusted website to follow on current events and the Turkey
shoot down of the Russian Jet over Syria.
Bookmark it.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/#axzz3sS2UG96B

HiddenServant · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2015, 05:16:31 PM »

This is a point where we need to go underground
and real fast for the faith is disappearing !

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2015, 09:46:06 PM »

A good website on current events.

http://allnewspipeline.com/Hundreds_Of_Millions_Could_Soon_Die.php

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2015, 10:57:07 PM »

The second shot of WWIII indeed:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/11/wwiii-second-shot.html

HiddenServant · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2015, 04:59:18 PM »

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2015, 07:20:51 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

The second shot of WWIII indeed:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/11/wwiii-second-shot.html

He writes:

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About the only place we can expect to escape the global conflict is South America, as La Raza Cósmica is more vicious and more capable than the mujahideen while simultaneously being devoid of any semblance of white guilt or mercy. The jihadists wouldn't last five minutes against the cartels.

As Nicolas Taleb has observed, the one place the immigrants have failed to find any footing in Italy is where the mafias rule.

That's interesting. Has anyone here read Nicolas Taleb? Just wondering how true this statement of his might be.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2015, 12:35:01 AM »

Quote from: MariaCatherine

That's interesting. Has anyone here read Nicolas Taleb? Just wondering how true this statement of his might be.

Taleb is polarizing (to say the least). There are entire blogs/websites devoted to tracking his every word, looking for points to attack him on (I'm not kidding)

Fortunately, this statement is not actually Taleb's idea, he was referring to some work done by Italian journos reporting on some statements from Italian security services:
http://www.panorama.it/news/cronaca/isis-italia-regioni-sicure-mafia/

It's in Italian, but Google doea a pretty solid job translating this particular piece

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #12 on:** November 27, 2015, 10:03:23 AM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Quote from: MariaCatherine

That's interesting. Has anyone here read Nicolas Taleb? Just wondering how true this statement of his might be.

Taleb is polarizing (to say the least). There are entire blogs/websites devoted to tracking his every word, looking for points to attack him on (I'm not kidding)

Fortunately, this statement is not actually Taleb's idea, he was referring to some work done by Italian journos reporting on some statements from Italian security services:
http://www.panorama.it/news/cronaca/isis-italia-regioni-sicure-mafia/

It's in Italian, but Google does a pretty solid job translating this particular piece

Thanks very much.

I wonder if this holds true anywhere in North America. I wouldn't know how to identify an area that's 'controlled by the mafia'. I only know, in a general way, of some of the areas where their people are known to live. They seem to be the Italian areas. I know that sounds a bit stupid but I don't know enough about this to know if all Italian neighborhoods are 'mafia controlled'. I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.

This might be a good time to move into an Italian neighborhood, that's why I'm interested.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2015, 12:30:52 AM »

Quote from: MariaCatherine

Thanks very much.

I wonder if this holds true anywhere in North America.

Sicilian neighborhoods in NY (if any such neighborhoods are left):
https://www.rt.com/usa/323032-mafia-isis-warning-gambino/

Quote from: MariaCatherine

I wouldn't know how to identify an area that's 'controlled by the mafia'. I only know, in a general way, of some of the areas where their people are known to live. They seem to be the Italian areas. I know that sounds a bit stupid but I don't know enough about this to know if all Italian neighborhoods are 'mafia controlled'. I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.

The MAFIA is a *Sicilian* Italian criminal organization. It's not "Italian" in the general sense. So, *Sicilian* neighborhoods, not just "Italian" neighborhoods.

The Camorra for example are an Italian criminal organization from Campania. So, know any Napolitano or Peidmontese Italians? :) At one time the Camorra were unified with American MAFIA, but are now operating independently and quite a bit more successfully than the MAFIA (since they are organized a bit more like terror cells unlike the hierarchical MAFIA). Surprisingly they operate more with Russians than Sicilian MAFIA.

There's also the 'Ndragheta from Calabria. I've no idea what, if any activity they have in the states, but like the Camorra, they're much more powerful now and the Sicilian MAFIA is greatly weakened since RICO, so there's definitely a power vacuum they could fill.

Americans use the term MAFIA as a catch-all for Italian organized crime, but they are ethnically different, and organized differently (differently enough that the law enforcement tactics that were effective against the MAFIA are not as helpful versus the Camorra)

Quote from: MariaCatherine

This might be a good time to move into an Italian neighborhood, that's why I'm interested.

See above. Also, I think that's a terrible reason. I'm not ready to give so much credit to the Moors.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2015, 09:06:29 AM »

Thanks very much. That's all very reasonable. I will stay where I am in 'Little Babylon'...