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« on: January 17, 2015, 11:43:06 PM »
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  • A Myanmar woman beheaded in a Saudi street this week for killing her husband's young daughter is seen screaming her innocence in a video posted on the Internet Saturday.

    Saudi authorities have arrested someone for filming the incident, said local newspaper websites, including Okaz and Al-Riyadh, in reports accompanied by still shots from the recording.

    They did not say what the arrest was for.

    The official Saudi Press Agency said Monday that Layla bint Abdul Mutaleb Bassim was executed in the Muslim holy city of Mecca for killing her husband's six-year-old daughter.

    "Investigations led to her trial which proved she was guilty," the interior ministry said, quoted by SPA.

    The child, also "Burmese," died from a beating and from being raped with a broomstick, it said.

    "I did not kill. There is no God but God. I did not kill," cries the woman, covered in black, apparently kneeling on the pavement circled by police officers in the video on LiveLeak.

    "Haram. Haram. Haram. Haram. I did not kill ... I do not forgive you ... This is an injustice," she screams in Arabic, using the Islamic term for something that is forbidden.

    The executioner, dressed in a white robe, forces her to lie down on the ground, near a pedestrian crossing. Mountains are seen in the distance.

    "I did not," she continues before a final scream as the executioner's curved sword severs her head, in a traditional execution for the kingdom, which carries out death sentences in public.

    A voice then reads out her crime.

    Many Twitter users protested the video being circulated on the Internet because it could be seen by the woman's family, but did not object to the beheading itself.

    Several other videos purportedly showing beheadings in Saudi Arabia have circulated online over the past three years.

    Bassim was one of 10 people beheaded so far this year under the kingdom's strict version of Islamic sharia law.

    Saudi Arabia executed 87 people last year, up from 78 in 2013, according to an AFP tally.

    A United Nations special rapporteur has said trials leading to the death penalty in Saudi Arabia are "grossly unfair".posted

    The kingdom had the third-highest number of recorded executions in 2013, behind Iran and Iraq, Amnesty International says.

    Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking are punishable by death in the oil-rich Gulf state that is a close ally of Washington.

    Saudi authorities identified Bassim as holding "Burmese nationality", using the former name for Myanmar, but did not specify if she was from its Rohingya Muslim community.

    Myanmar's embassy said that without seeing her passport, it could not confirm whether or not she was a citizen.

    http://news.yahoo.com/myanmar-woman-screams-innocence-saudi-beheading-video-192345165.html

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    « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 03:03:36 AM »
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  • So a Mohammedan allegedly guilty of a capital crime was sentenced to capital punishment in a Mohammedan nation.

    So why post this story here? Where is the relevance for us as Traditional Catholics? The story strikes me as more UN / Amnesty International Jew propaganda demonizing capital punishment per se. Are we supposed to be siding with the UN on this matter? Because I don't. As a Catholic I have nothing whatsoever against capital punishment per se, nor do I have anything against beheading as a form of capital punishment.

    If the woman in the story is guilty of the crime she was charged with, then she deserved the punishment. If not, then perhaps the Saudi legal system is corrupt and in need of reform (don't stop the presses for that one). Either way, this has pretty much no relevance at all for us.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 03:31:25 AM »
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  • This is the subforum that covers these issues;

    A message board to discuss the Middle East conflict, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, USA, Russia, China, Pakistan, NATO, and all of today's news which history will consider as part of the topic, "World War III".

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    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 03:48:16 AM »
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  • Quote from: BTNYC
    So a Mohammedan allegedly guilty of a capital crime was sentenced to capital punishment in a Mohammedan nation.

    So why post this story here? Where is the relevance for us as Traditional Catholics? The story strikes me as more UN / Amnesty International Jew propaganda demonizing capital punishment per se. Are we supposed to be siding with the UN on this matter? Because I don't. As a Catholic I have nothing whatsoever against capital punishment per se, nor do I have anything against beheading as a form of capital punishment.

    If the woman in the story is guilty of the crime she was charged with, then she deserved the punishment. If not, then perhaps the Saudi legal system is corrupt and in need of reform (don't stop the presses for that one). Either way, this has pretty much no relevance at all for us.


    Could you at least pray for the repose of her soul?

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    « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2015, 09:05:24 AM »
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    This is the subforum that covers these issues;

    A message board to discuss the Middle East conflict, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, USA, Russia, China, Pakistan, NATO, and all of today's news which history will consider as part of the topic, "World War III".


    How is an isolated incident of capital punishment in Saudi Arabia related to any of those things, apart from mere geographical location? Should we also post stories about burglary and armed robberies in Yemen in this subforum?


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    « Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 09:07:16 AM »
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    So a Mohammedan allegedly guilty of a capital crime was sentenced to capital punishment in a Mohammedan nation.

    So why post this story here? Where is the relevance for us as Traditional Catholics? The story strikes me as more UN / Amnesty International Jew propaganda demonizing capital punishment per se. Are we supposed to be siding with the UN on this matter? Because I don't. As a Catholic I have nothing whatsoever against capital punishment per se, nor do I have anything against beheading as a form of capital punishment.

    If the woman in the story is guilty of the crime she was charged with, then she deserved the punishment. If not, then perhaps the Saudi legal system is corrupt and in need of reform (don't stop the presses for that one). Either way, this has pretty much no relevance at all for us.


    Could you at least pray for the repose of her soul?


    Please don't hide behind false piety / compassion / charity with me, Poche.

    Condemned Proposition #17:

    Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.

    - The Syllabus of Errors Condemned by Pope Pius IX

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    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 02:38:41 AM »
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  • My experience of Muslims accused of crimes is that they invariably lie through their teeth.

    It's cultural.

    You see it all the time at the airport when they are picked up smuggling something into Britain.  They shout and scream and make a scene and swear by Allah, and everything else, that they are innocent.

    They seem to have no shame at all in the act of lying.  They appear to seeing lying as purgative, as though, if they protest their innocence loudly enough that then they will be believed and the act of other people believing they are innocent will make them actually innocent.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 05:19:23 PM »
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    So a Mohammedan allegedly guilty of a capital crime was sentenced to capital punishment in a Mohammedan nation.

    So why post this story here? Where is the relevance for us as Traditional Catholics? The story strikes me as more UN / Amnesty International Jew propaganda demonizing capital punishment per se. Are we supposed to be siding with the UN on this matter? Because I don't. As a Catholic I have nothing whatsoever against capital punishment per se, nor do I have anything against beheading as a form of capital punishment.

    If the woman in the story is guilty of the crime she was charged with, then she deserved the punishment. If not, then perhaps the Saudi legal system is corrupt and in need of reform (don't stop the presses for that one). Either way, this has pretty much no relevance at all for us.


    Could you at least pray for the repose of her soul?


    For the record, the idea that she converted to the Faith and was baptised by desire such that all her sins were forgiven and that she was then saved at the last moment of her life, right after shouting Mohammedan slogans, seems exceedingly unlikely, to put it as mildly as possible.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 09:21:55 PM »
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  • And in a country where the only legal religion is the form of Mohammedanism that the Saudi monarchy believes in, I would consider it even more so improbable.
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    « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 09:25:30 PM »
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    "Haram. Haram. Haram. Haram. I did not kill ... I do not forgive you ... This is an injustice," she screams in Arabic, using the Islamic term for something that is forbidden.


    "I Get Haram"

    Ram-ram get haram
    I get haram
    Yeah
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I get haram
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    From town to town
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I'm a cuckoo head
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Kill in Muhammad's stead

    I'm gettin' bugged shooting up and down this same old strip
    I gotta finda new place where imams are hip

    My buddies and me are getting real well known
    Yeah, the press guys know us and they leave us alone

    I get haram
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    From town to town
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I'm a real cruel head
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I'll gain Islamic cred
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I get haram
    Ram
    Get haram ram ram oooo
    Fat-wah ooo
    Fat-wah ooo
    Fat-wah ooo

    We "Allahu Akbar" cause it sounds like a treat
    And we're not martyred yet or suffered defeat

    None of the guys go crazy cause it sure would be right
    To get seventy virgins next Saturday night

    I get haram
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    From town to town
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I'm a global dread
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Collecting Christian heads
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I get haram
    Ram
    Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah

    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    I get haram
    Yeah
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Oooo fatwah ooo
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Oooo ooo ooo
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Ahh ooo ooo
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Ahh ooo ooo
    Get haram-ram-ram I get haram
    Ahh ooo ooo
    Fortuna finem habet.

     

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