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Offline Elizabeth

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  • Christ have mercy on their souls.

    The plane hit some trees landing?  

    Wouldn't such an elite transport be extra safe?
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    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 11:04:37 AM »
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    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 11:07:12 AM »
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  • Did you catch that?

    They were attending a commemoration of a heinous action by the Russians during World War II -- wherein several Polish officials were killed.

    Coincidence? Hmmm.

    I'm a bit suspicious.

    It's not too difficult for a Secret Service to mess with a plane's GPS so it's off by a few hundred meters, so instead of touching down on the landing strip they touch down in a nearby bunch of trees...

    I'm not saying that's what definitely happened, but it's certainly possible for advanced countries to do such things. Anyone who says otherwise is naive about the capabilities of 3-letter organizations.

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    Poland's President and Elite Staff All Dead in Plane Crash
    « Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 12:26:21 PM »
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  • Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 12:28:13 PM »
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  • I probably am thinking along those lines since you posted this in the World War III section, Matthew... You are manipulating my thoughts through a devious mind-control!
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    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 12:45:58 PM »
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  • somebody not playing nice with the NWO? maybe they denied a base to NTO or abortion laws, etc.....most of E/Europe falling under NWO control....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 12:47:56 PM »
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  • Quote
    Kaczyński banned the Warsaw gαy movement parade in 2004 and 2005, locally known as the Parada Równości, stating the lack of necessary docuмentation by organisers as the reason but also saying the parade would promote a "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle".[6] He also cited as reasons for the ban security measures, it being offensive to public morals, and the fact that the parade coincided with the unveiling of a monument to general Tadeusz Bór-Komorowski. In 2004 his opponents called his actions unconstitutional and he has been repeatedly criticised by the Mazowieckie voivodeship administration, which officially supervises the Mayor of Warsaw. In 2005, he allowed a counter-demonstration, the "Parade of Normality."

    In 2007, Poland, represented by Lech Kaczyński, was found guilty by the European Court of Human Rights of violation the freedom of assembly under Article 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights.


    "Parade of Normality," ha ha.   Unfortunately he was a Jєωιѕн kiss-butt like so many Poles are today.

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    "On December 21, 2008, Lech Kaczyński became the first Polish head of state to visit a Polish ѕуηαgσgυє for a religious service. His attendance coincided with the first night of Hanukkah."


    On the plus side, he didn't want integration into the European Union, and his rival, the prime minister Tusk, has been stumping for that.  Tusk compared himself to the Jєωs because he is "Kashubian" which is some kind of regional minority in Poland.  Maybe for this reason he is not patriotic and the road was paved for him to have more control.  It looks like Lech cleverly cozied up to the Jєωs publicly while doing the opposite of what they wanted politically...  Still a mortal sin to go to that ѕуηαgσgυє!

    Looks messy.
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    « Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 12:53:05 PM »
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  • Looks messy?  It is.  And I doubt it was an accident.  


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    « Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 01:12:17 PM »
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  • He was said to be a devout Catholic... A VII one who visited a ѕуηαgσgυє, but even a watered-down Catholic is pretty rare for a head of state these days.
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    « Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 01:16:11 PM »
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  • What a world we live in!

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    « Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 01:46:12 PM »
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  • It is a sad time when you can be ( probably ) martyred just for having some core Catholic conservative beliefs, while doing things that would make the saints weep...  

    http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3642275,00.html
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    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 04:31:45 PM »
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    « Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 04:47:10 PM »
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  • The stories about how this happened don't add up.

    Whether it was a deliberate sabotage or an accident, it is an incredibly serious matter for so many VIPs to die at once trying to land in Russia.  It is said the pilot tried 4 times to land.  It does not make sense, but if it was an accident of fog, God allowed a huge smite of Poland.

    I remember Poland eschewed same-sex marraige, and had gotten herself out of debt.  Poland's Governor of Banking died also.

    It IS an international incident-God only knows what it means,though.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 14, 2010, 09:36:42 AM »
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  • Poland starting to drift into a new superpower's clutches, that of the USA-were are very chummy and teh Knights of Columbus, bypassing Spain and other countries, went  there a few yrs ago, though Poland had nothing to do with Columbus and discovery....why? because several top K of C leaders are tied with Neocons and their many front groups....

    I blame Russia less, as they feel threatened and encirlces-look how many USA bases and NATO bases spreading into former Warsaw Pact nations, plus the push for theose nations to join the EU...plus USA missle shields, satellites,etc.....yet we tell Russia we are their friends, then do this and back Georgia (recall, how there were mercs in Georgian conflict and heavy Mossad prescense.) Russia is no dummy, they know who bankrolls the NWO, NATO and Mossad---yup, the USA.....why then would they believe us saying "hey, w are your friends"...and turning Russian wwealth over to the few, mostly Jєωιѕн, oligarchs.who did it? yup the neocons from USA......

    sooooo.....finally, we can see why Russia is flexing their pcks, we keep shoving it in their faces....new cold war? you bet, and we are stoking the fires with our scuмmy Neocons, set to make a lot of money no doubt, but mainly, power....

    Poland's elite all on one palne, then said plane goind down, not liekly an "accident", someone is not playing nice....doubtful Russia did it, as it looks much to obvious over their soil, likely an opponent of Russia doing it on Russian airspace/soil to make Russia look bad.......

    and no, I am no fan of Russia, largely ruled by the same people that ruled prior to 1991.....but the "blame Russia for everything" party is not logical....I blame the Neocon dupes like Chris Ferrera, who has turned Fr. Gruner's apostolate and Remnant into a personal "blame Russia" crusade of his own...

    That is why he backed Palin/McCain likely.

    The warning at Fatima about Russia was largely against athiestic materialism and militarism, again, speed up now by USA/British Neocons......
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    « Reply #14 on: April 14, 2010, 01:06:53 PM »
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  • There is no Instrument Landing System at the airport in question.  The minimum visibility suggested for landing there is 1000m.  The visibility at the time of the attempted landing was about 400m.  It was suggested that they divert.  But the decision to land came from inside the plane; I suspect from the highest ranking person on board - the president.  

    I've heard that this president did not appreciate pilots who made smart decisions and diverted, making him, the president, ride in long motorcades to his destination.  That might explain why the pilot on this flight was rather inexperienced.  He had only about 1400 hrs in the air.  So, he was not likely very experienced in flying the sort of approach they were attempting here.