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Offline Incredulous

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Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2022, 08:07:30 PM »
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  • They have all have made reference to Russian conversion since the start of the Ukraine war.


    You were either too busy making your lengthy, daily postings on Cathinfo... or probably... you just slept through it. :popcorn:

    I forgot to mention, your ex-consiliar, Opus judei, convert idol, +AB Vigano... said it too.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #16 on: September 25, 2022, 08:07:55 PM »
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  • They have all have made reference to Russian conversion since the start of the Ukraine war.
    You were either too busy making your lengthy, daily postings on Cathinfo... or probably... you just slept through it. :popcorn:

    They have done nothing of the sort.  Everybody knows that the Russians are Orthodox, and that there's still rampant abortion, pornography, etc. in Russia, and that the country has NOT been converted.  More unfounded slander.


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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #17 on: September 25, 2022, 08:08:55 PM »
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  • I forgot to mention, your ex-consiliar, Opus judei, convert idol, +AB Vigano said it too.

    You should be banned for grave calumny and slander.  You're an utter disgrace and need to examine your conscience.

    Cite a text from any of these (except, say, E Michael Jones, since I don't really follow him) that Russia has converted.

    I have followed the others quite closely, and I have never heard any of them claim that Russia has converted.  Only the Dimond Brothers have said this, and that's only because they look at the term translated as "convert" from Our Lady at Fatima, and assert that this does not mean a true conversion to the faith, but more loosely something along the lines of changing course.

    Only a heretic would claim that the Orthodox can be referred as "converted" (in the strict Catholic sense, vs. the looser Dimond interpretation of the term), so what you're alleging of the is in fact tantamount to calumniating and slandering them as heretics.

    So either produce the evidence or retract your calumnies.

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #18 on: September 26, 2022, 01:04:12 PM »
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  • You should be banned for grave calumny and slander.  You're an utter disgrace and need to examine your conscience.

    Cite a text from any of these (except, say, E Michael Jones, since I don't really follow him) that Russia has converted.

    I have followed the others quite closely, and I have never heard any of them claim that Russia has converted.  Only the Dimond Brothers have said this, and that's only because they look at the term translated as "convert" from Our Lady at Fatima, and assert that this does not mean a true conversion to the faith, but more loosely something along the lines of changing course.

    Only a heretic would claim that the Orthodox can be referred as "converted" (in the strict Catholic sense, vs. the looser Dimond interpretation of the term), so what you're alleging of the is in fact tantamount to calumniating and slandering them as heretics.

    So either produce the evidence or retract your calumnies.
    If Russia does fully convert at some point and leads a Catholic restoration around the world what do you think this would look like. Would the Russian Orthodox Church regain communion with the Pope of Rome? 
    Our Lady of La Salette, pray for us!

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #19 on: September 26, 2022, 05:04:36 PM »
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  • 200 billion dollar'd Jєωtin's 700 million dollar yacht the Scheherazade could be a good place for the "appropriately motivated" Russian army to all go jump in the water and just plain wash away, wash away ... out to sea like leviathan. Satanic Dugin and Kremlin or Kremlin church officials can attend in ceremony.




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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #20 on: September 26, 2022, 07:14:25 PM »
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  • If Russia does fully convert at some point and leads a Catholic restoration around the world what do you think this would look like. Would the Russian Orthodox Church regain communion with the Pope of Rome?

    Conversion means that they would become Catholic.  To call anything else conversion (barring a different translation of the term by the Dimonds or others) would not be Catholic.

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #21 on: September 26, 2022, 07:19:00 PM »
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  • 200 billion dollar'd Jєωtin's 700 million dollar yacht the Scheherazade could be a good place for the "appropriately motivated" Russian army to all go jump in the water and just plain wash away, wash away ... out to sea like leviathan. Satanic Dugin and Kremlin or Kremlin church officials can attend in ceremony.

    More idiotic Globhomo garbage.  That yacht belongs to Eduard Khudainatov and was seized in Italy.

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #22 on: September 26, 2022, 09:47:19 PM »
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  • Conversion means that they would become Catholic.  To call anything else conversion (barring a different translation of the term by the Dimonds or others) would not be Catholic.
    Yes I agree. I mean what do you think this would look like? Do you think individuals would convert to Catholicism from Orthodoxy gradually/separately or do you think the Russian Orthodox Church as a whole for instance would come into communion with Rome. 
    Our Lady of La Salette, pray for us!


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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #23 on: September 26, 2022, 09:57:14 PM »
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  • "On paper, the owner of Scheherazade is non-sanctioned Russian billionaire Eduard Khudainatov, whom authorities believe acts as “straw man” for Amadea too, the superyacht arrested in Fiji by the U.S. government. In reality, the real beneficiary of Scheherazade is probably Putin, aka the number-one on all sanctions lists for his brutal invasion of Ukraine."

    Jєωtini's the crazy genie's under grave suspicion as far as I'm concerned. "Globohomo" whatever. Dugin's a fag and everybody knows.

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/entire-crew-of-arrested-700-million-scheherazade-megαyacht-were-not-trained-professionals-189547.html

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    Re: Patriarch Kirill: Soldiers Who Die In Ukraine Have All Sins Washed Away
    « Reply #24 on: September 27, 2022, 07:23:49 AM »
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  • "On paper, the owner of Scheherazade is non-sanctioned Russian billionaire Eduard Khudainatov, whom authorities believe acts as “straw man” for Amadea too, the superyacht arrested in Fiji by the U.S. government. In reality, the real beneficiary of Scheherazade is probably Putin, aka the number-one on all sanctions lists for his brutal invasion of Ukraine."

    Jєωtini's the crazy genie's under grave suspicion as far as I'm concerned. "Globohomo" whatever. Dugin's a fag and everybody knows.

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/entire-crew-of-arrested-700-million-scheherazade-megαyacht-were-not-trained-professionals-189547.html

    There's no evidence for this whatsoever ... just an allegation made by Putin's opposition and released on the same day the guy was on trial for embezzlement.

    Captain of the ship is British, and has been in charge of the yacht the entire time, and he swears that he's never met Putin, that Putin's never been on board or anywhere near the yacht.

    And what's your unnatural obsession with Dugin?  Any relationship between Putin and Dugin is merely speculative.

    But keep pushing the Globohomo agenda.

    https://unherd.com/thepost/alexander-dugin-was-never-putins-brain/
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    Each article is illustrated with individual photos of the philosopher, and individual photos of the president. There are no photos of Putin and Dugin together, because the two have never met.

    The Russian state has a cool relationship with Dugin, whom they have used only occasionally when he can be useful. In 2014, the thinker’s Foundations of Geopolitics was introduced to the reading list of the Academy of the General Staff — but by the time Putin had decided against an outright annexation of the ‘People’s Republics’, Dugin’s brand of mystical expansionism was no longer helpful to the cause, and he swiftly fell out of what little favour and influence he had previously accuмulated.

    By 2017, Dugin was openly critical of the president — in an interview that year, he derided Putin for holding an incoherent worldview: “I think that even he doesn’t understand what he’s saying because now he’s a liberal, now a conservative; now he’s for sovereignty, now for globalism, and now against globalism.”

    If Dugin’s influence over Kremlin thought is minimal, his influence on their current war effort is nonexistent. Is Dugin supportive of the invasion? Absolutely. But to think he is dictating it — that it is happening at his will, or inspired by his writings — is absurd. Dugin’s hold over the actual workings and policy of the Kremlin is nonexistent, and claims that he operates as a Rasputin-type figure, dictating Putin’s foreign policy, are fantasies. Most Russians will not have heard of the thinker until his daughter was killed in front of him.

    Dugin has gained far more traction in online, alt-right circles than he ever did as a mainstream Russian commentator, currently occupying a role more comparable to Nick Land than Henry Kissinger.

    More made-up propagada by Globohomo, whose ageda you keep pushing.