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Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
« on: June 01, 2013, 11:27:28 AM »
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    Weimar and Walter Horton (sp?) designed this 4 decades ahead
    of American stealth technology began in the 1970's.  They both
    died in the 1990's after being interviewed by David Myra (sp?).

    Jet engine powered, wooden aircraft without any tail, approved by
    Hermann Göring.. ("Goering")..

    Hitler's secret weapon against the British Chain Home Radar system:

    "The idea to build the original 229, a German aircraft virtually
    undetectable to Allied radar, was born in the aftermath of one of
    the most pivotal battles of WWII." (min. 9:30)

    [ Note: powerplant "Junkers" is pronounced "YOON-kers" ]

    In the video they say "Horton 229" and the larger "Horton 18"
    which was going to carry the Nazi nuclear bomb to America.
    (see min. 44)



    Greatest Mysteries of WWII: Hitler's Stealth Fighter 720P



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    [From the info on the YouTube page:]

     Published on Mar 14, 2013

    GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS
    Crew: 1
    Length: 7.47 m (24 ft 6 in)
    Wingspan: 16.76 m (55 ft 0 in)
    Height: 2.81 m (9 ft 2 in)
    Wing area: 50.20 m² (540.35 ft²)
    Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
    Loaded weight: 6,912 kg (15,238 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 8,100 kg (17,857 lb)
    Powerplant: 2 × Junkers Jumo 004B turbojet, 8.7 kN (1,956 lbf) each

    PERFORMANCE
    Maximum speed: 977km/h (607 mph) at 12,000 metres (39,000 ft)
    Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)
    Rate of climb: 22 m/s (4,330 ft/min)
    Wing loading: 137.7 kg/m² (28.2 lb/ft²)
    Thrust/weight: 0.26

    ARMAMENT
    Guns: 4 × 30 mm MK 108 cannon
    Rockets: R4M rockets
    Bombs: 2 × 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) bombs





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    Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
    « Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 06:51:24 PM »
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  • Isn't this like the Weinberg claim that the Nazis had a German stealth bomber, which was disproven?


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    Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 07:37:17 PM »
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  • Stealth bombers you say ?  Why that's child's-play.

    The Germans were so technologically advanced, they even had chimney-less gas chambers.

    They were so complex, that even now, our Zionist media can't explain how they worked?
      :thinking:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 08:09:14 PM »
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  • I wish they had made it properly so that we could see it in action.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 08:55:51 PM »
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  • Quote from: Hatchc
    I wish they had made it properly so that we could see it in action.



    Schematically, it looked something like this:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 09:10:40 PM »
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  •  :laugh1:

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    Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
    « Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 01:57:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    .

    Weimar and Walter Horton (sp?) designed this 4 decades ahead
    of American stealth technology began in the 1970's.  They both
    died in the 1990's after being interviewed by David Myra (sp?).

    Jet engine powered, wooden aircraft without any tail, approved by
    Hermann Göring.. ("Goering")..

    Hitler's secret weapon against the British Chain Home Radar system:

    "The idea to build the original 229, a German aircraft virtually
    undetectable to Allied radar, was born in the aftermath of one of
    the most pivotal battles of WWII." (min. 9:30)

    [ Note: powerplant "Junkers" is pronounced "YOON-kers" ]

    In the video they say "Horton 229" and the larger "Horton 18"
    which was going to carry the Nazi nuclear bomb to America.
    (see min. 44)



    Greatest Mysteries of WWII: Hitler's Stealth Fighter 720P



    2851 comments ........... 1,156,992 views

    [From the info on the YouTube page:]

     Published on Mar 14, 2013

    GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS
    Crew: 1
    Length: 7.47 m (24 ft 6 in)
    Wingspan: 16.76 m (55 ft 0 in)
    Height: 2.81 m (9 ft 2 in)
    Wing area: 50.20 m² (540.35 ft²)
    Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
    Loaded weight: 6,912 kg (15,238 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 8,100 kg (17,857 lb)
    Powerplant: 2 × Junkers Jumo 004B turbojet, 8.7 kN (1,956 lbf) each

    PERFORMANCE
    Maximum speed: 977km/h (607 mph) at 12,000 metres (39,000 ft)
    Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)
    Rate of climb: 22 m/s (4,330 ft/min)
    Wing loading: 137.7 kg/m² (28.2 lb/ft²)
    Thrust/weight: 0.26

    ARMAMENT
    Guns: 4 × 30 mm MK 108 cannon
    Rockets: R4M rockets
    Bombs: 2 × 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) bombs







    The Forum needs to be reminded that this poster claims S rev around E.  :smoke-pot:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
    « Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 07:49:05 PM »
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    I don't claim to be an expert on this.  I saw the video and from what I
    know of these things, it looked pretty interesting, so I thought the
    forum would like to see it and discuss it.  

    Are any of the critics here aeronautical engineers?  Have any of you
    studied engineering? Can you see impossible conflicts in the lists of
    data/specifications I posted?  Are you ready to explain how the movie
    was entirely made up based on specific things?

    It doesn't look very impressive to see a forum with critics who have no
    intelligent and objective criticism but rely on ad hominems and
    innuendo alone.  

    I thought perhaps someone would be interested or might know
    something about this.  Is there anyone out there?  




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    Currently:
     Like 4,655     Dislike 285

    In the past few weeks since my post, there have been 453,936 more
    views
    of the video, and 1858 more comments, many of which are
    a lot more intelligent than those here, and many more that are a lot
    more vulgar and profane, but nonetheless similarly disrespectful.  

    Therefore, while CI is a small cut above the average, it is surprisingly
    unwilling to discuss whatever redeeming value there might be here.

    For example, are you aware that the Nazi engineers had jet engines
    operational and on the verge of overtaking all their designs (like in
    ready to build jet fighters) when Allied technology was still dependent
    entirely on the piston ICE?*

    Are you aware that their groundbreaking development of synthetic oil
    was an essential criterion for their ability to build jet engines, while
    American chemical engineering was not paying much attention to
    synthetics at all?  

    Are you aware that Wernher von Braun's skills and experience was at
    the foundation of the American space program (Saturn V rocket) and
    without his help it could well have never gotten "off the ground?"


    *If you don't know what ICE is then look it up.  





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    Nazis had a stealth fighter in 1944 - Discovered 4-14-1945
    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 01:14:25 AM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
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    Weimar and Walter Horton (sp?) designed this 4 decades ahead
    of American stealth technology began in the 1970's.  They both
    died in the 1990's after being interviewed by David Myra (sp?).

    Jet engine powered, wooden aircraft without any tail, approved by
    Hermann Göring.. ("Goering")..

    Hitler's secret weapon against the British Chain Home Radar system:

    "The idea to build the original 229, a German aircraft virtually
    undetectable to Allied radar, was born in the aftermath of one of
    the most pivotal battles of WWII." (min. 9:30)

    [ Note: powerplant "Junkers" is pronounced "YOON-kers" ]

    In the video they say "Horton 229" and the larger "Horton 18"
    which was going to carry the Nazi nuclear bomb to America.
    (see min. 44)



    Greatest Mysteries of WWII: Hitler's Stealth Fighter 720P



    2851 comments ........... 1,156,992 views

    [From the info on the YouTube page:]

     Published on Mar 14, 2013

    GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS
    Crew: 1
    Length: 7.47 m (24 ft 6 in)
    Wingspan: 16.76 m (55 ft 0 in)
    Height: 2.81 m (9 ft 2 in)
    Wing area: 50.20 m² (540.35 ft²)
    Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
    Loaded weight: 6,912 kg (15,238 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 8,100 kg (17,857 lb)
    Powerplant: 2 × Junkers Jumo 004B turbojet, 8.7 kN (1,956 lbf) each

    PERFORMANCE
    Maximum speed: 977km/h (607 mph) at 12,000 metres (39,000 ft)
    Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)
    Rate of climb: 22 m/s (4,330 ft/min)
    Wing loading: 137.7 kg/m² (28.2 lb/ft²)
    Thrust/weight: 0.26

    ARMAMENT
    Guns: 4 × 30 mm MK 108 cannon
    Rockets: R4M rockets
    Bombs: 2 × 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) bombs







    The Forum needs to be reminded that this poster claims S rev around E.  :smoke-pot:


    Let me say that the Sun does orbit the earth and so do the stars. The earth is not moving, and the Sun and the stars do not orbit the earth because of "gravity". They orbit the earth from forces of celestial impetus, not "gravity". Newton's theory of gravity is nonsense.

    Have you read the "Principia"? It's Freemasonic garbage. Newton was a secret  society fellow involved in alchemy, who also suffered periodically from chronic mercury exposure and recurrent bouts of insanity.  

    NASA is Freemasonic garbage also --- a multi-billion dollar'd Judeo-Masonic scam. They have never landed on the moon, and they are not on Mars today with a rover. They cannot even land on the moon today, much less with 1969 technology.

    It's more like Bernie Madoff and George Soros love you from the moon and Mars, baby. Give 'em a kiss.

    I'm writing a book about all this that may be about 400 pages even after editing. "Scientific" materialism is heretical garbage, and gravity is not even a real force of any practical measure in real physics.

    ... and Hell is inside the earth.   :devil2:

    May St. Robert Bellarmine graciously intercede for you.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 06:15:02 AM »
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  • Donachie you could well be right. In fact, it is not so silly to say the Earth is at the center. Anywhere can conceivably be the center, provided the mathematics is able to predict where in the sky the heavenly bodies will be at any given point in the future. One just has to come up with the theory and design an experiment that proves it.

    It's useful to think carefully about the capabilities of the Germans in the 1930's. The big advances in science during the preceding century were largely due to the achievements of theoreticians, a great proportion of which were Germanic. The war forced the rapid application of these theories and shifted the focus towards materials science, which we have been enjoying the benefits of ever since, in all areas of life.

    So for the Germans to have invented a stealth aircraft should not be surprising. The number of groundbreaking inventions made in that period is astounding.

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    « Reply #10 on: July 12, 2013, 08:47:25 AM »
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  • Here is a photo of one of those German Stealth Fighters found by
    my Grandfather who was in the American Army in a forest in
    Austria towards the end of WW2.
    It was cannibalized for parts by the Germans when the area was under
    German occupation.
    The soldier in the picture is my Grandfather.


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    « Reply #11 on: September 03, 2013, 01:49:11 PM »
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  • First, a disclaimer. I do not agree with some of this, but some of it makes more sense than the usual narrative we are told. Admiral Byrd, nazis and antartctica.
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica24.htm
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