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Offline Donachie

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Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2023, 06:11:50 PM »
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  • I don't think Charlton Heston would be a Putin supporter if he were here today.

    Offline dxcat40

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #16 on: July 05, 2023, 06:20:36 PM »
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  • A -- This entire thing was easily averted if Zelensky had simply 1) agreed to abide by the Minsk accords that Ukraine had already agreed to and 2) Zelensky had promised not to join NATO, something to which Ukraine and NATO had long agreed to.  But Zelensky refused both.

    Ukraine overwhelmingly voted for its present existence. Russia is the one invading Ukraine and violating Minsk, training separatists and terrorists long in violation of Minsk before Euromaidan in 2014. "NATO encroachment" is a myth dispelled by even Gorbachev.

    B -- Fighting Russia was hopeless to being with.  Ukraine simply can't win, so whatever goals they might have to recapture "their" lost territory are exercises in futility, and therefore a needless loss of Ukrainian life.

    Same arguments used by Communists and "anti-war peace activists" during Korea, Vietnam, the list goes on...

    In reality, giving ground to Communists and other authoritarians only emboldens them. History is full of examples proving this.

    C -- Recent counter-offensive was utterly hopeless, and wave after wave of Ukrainian forces were going into a meat grinder and on ѕυιcιdє missions.  There are videos of some Ukrainian soldiers complaining about what Zelensky was hoping to accomplish other than the depopulation of Ukraine.

    Propaganda. Ukraine hasn't released any official numbers and Russian claims are dubious for reasons mentioned. The desperate Russian defense and deployment of nukes to Belarus don't give any reason to have confidence. In fact, flooding of the dam has worked against the Russians by proving many more points of crossing the river. Ukraine is still on the offensive while Russia is on the defensive.

    D -- Soros, who propped up Zelensky (and his predecessor in 2014) has long stated that the goal was to build up Ukraine to use as a "torpedo" against Russia (torpedos are destroyed when they hit their target).  Merkel admitted that signing the Minsk accords were merely a tactic to buy time to arm Ukraine to go after Russia.  This entire thing was instigated by the West / NATO / US and they're using the Ukrainians as pawns in their game, caring nothing for the loss of life.

    Soros is a Jew, a liar and a traitor. Nothing he says can be taken at face value. Whatever email chain this came from, the threat of Russia to Europe is a deep concern to those actually living there, especially in Eastern Europe. NATO's new members aren't being forced to join, except in fear of Russian aggression. The Merkel quote is out of context, though she herself is likely a Russian agent.

    Zelensky is a Jew and doesn't care a rat's behind about the Ukrainian people, but is doing the bidding of his Jew paymasters and puppetmasters.

    They knowingly voted him in as a Jєωιѕн comedian out of fatigue with the political situation in Ukraine. It's not Zelensky's doing that the Ukrainians are fighting so hard for their homeland.


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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #17 on: July 05, 2023, 06:23:26 PM »
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  • Idiotic.  Lawful, my ass.  Zelensky is nothing but a finger-puppet of Kolomoisky and Soros, and the Ukrainian government was overthrown in 2014.  Zelensky is about as lawful an authority as Joe Biden is.  He's a butcher and mass murderer, and a traitor to Ukraine, and needs to be eliminated in order to save the Ukrainian people.

    Just like the lawless, murderous rhetoric that you would expect from any other tankie. Zelensky was voted in overwhelmingly by Ukrainians, unlike Biden. Whatever they might feel about him, their true enemies are those pushing the opinions you champion against them. If NATO/Europe withdraws support, then Ukraine will experience an actual butchery and general murder of their people. Putin's policies and rhetoric guarantee it.

    If I see someone attempting to murder another individual, I have the right and even the obligation to eliminate the aggressor.  This is no different.  Zelensky is murdering both Ukrainians and Russians, and needs to be elminated as part of a just war.

    Tankie-tier justification for murder. Zelensky was legally voted into power and has the support of the Ukrainian people for opposing Russian aggression. Unlike you, they have experienced and are experiencing the wonders of Russian aggression. Putin is the one actually committing murders, such as the continued phenomenon of Russians falling out of windows. Somehow Prigozhin avoided that fate, but it has continued since his fake coup.

    What are you babbling about?  There's a war here and the authorities of the opponent are fair game.  This isn't like sneaking in to αssαssιnαtҽ a rightfully-elected leader of a sovereign nation for no particular reason.

    False. The West wages war according to rules. Historically it is not acceptable to αssαssιnαtҽ the enemy leader. Of course, if you are a Communist who follows Sun Tzu, then you might think differently.

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #18 on: July 05, 2023, 06:32:56 PM »
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  • Just like the lawless, murderous rhetoric that you would expect from any other tankie. Zelensky was voted in overwhelmingly by Ukrainians, unlike Biden. 

    Well, Zelensky promised, before he was elected, that he would adhere to the Minsk protocols, but that didn't happen after he was elected, did it. Instead, he escalated the attacks on Donbass. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #19 on: July 05, 2023, 06:44:31 PM »
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  • Well, Zelensky promised, before he was elected, that he would adhere to the Minsk protocols, but that didn't happen after he was elected, did it. Instead, he escalated the attacks on Donbass.

    1. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and annexed Crimea after their failed attempt to control Ukraine with their puppet Yanukovych.

    2. Zelensky was voted into office in 2019 and had to work with an already inflamed situation, in which both sides have been accused of violating Minsk dating back to 2014.

    3. Russia has been influencing Ukrainian politics and making use of their technology even after Perestroika and the Ukrainian vote for independence.

    4. Ukraine is defending itself from an invader that has actually succeeded in taking territory from it and continues to occupy its territory, brutalize its people and destroy its infrastructure.

    5. There is no proof that NATO wanted to trigger World War III by having Ukraine join or supporting it against Russia. Eastern European countries and Germany have done more for Ukraine than NATO and Biden. There have been multiple opportunities for NATO to start World War III, but instead NATO leadership has repeatedly chosen the course of action that avoids the war. Avoiding World War III by failing to arm a country against Communism is a NATO/Western practice that dates back to the beginning of Communist aggression.


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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #20 on: July 05, 2023, 07:02:56 PM »
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  • Well, Zelensky promised, before he was elected, that he would adhere to the Minsk protocols, but that didn't happen after he was elected, did it. Instead, he escalated the attacks on Donbass.
    If Putin having the Donbass takes away the Russian excuse to nuke Paris, Macron should see to it as much as he can, if he can look beyond the riots in France.

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #21 on: July 05, 2023, 07:09:37 PM »
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  • Idiotic.  Lawful, my ass.  Zelensky is nothing but a finger-puppet of Kolomoisky and Soros, and the Ukrainian government was overthrown in 2014.  Zelensky is about as lawful an authority as Joe Biden is. 
    He is the Head of State of Ukraine, whether or not one likes him. What does being a puppet have to do with his actual lawful authority? Who do you consider to be the lawful authority then?

    What does Biden have to do with it? Yes, there are claims he stole the election. The Supreme Court ruled otherwise. Congress decided otherwise. Does one now have a right to revolution due to disagreeing with election results? Anyone can claim fraud, it is another matter to prove it - the assertion does not make it true nor legitimate. As a private citizen and not a public member of the government with the authority to determine these things, the claim that Zelensky is not a lawful authority because Biden is not a lawful authority does not follow.

    For the record, I do believe there was a great deal of fraud in the Biden election but my belief does not determine the authority of Heads of State.

    If I see someone attempting to murder another individual, I have the right and even the obligation to eliminate the aggressor.  This is no different.  Zelensky is murdering both Ukrainians and Russians, and needs to be elminated as part of a just war.

    What are you babbling about?  There's a war here and the authorities of the opponent are fair game.  This isn't like sneaking in to αssαssιnαtҽ a rightfully-elected leader of a sovereign nation for no particular reason.
    I am not sure I follow you here. Is it a war where opponents are legitimate targets, or is it murder? I don't think it can be both. Is it even true that he's "murdering Ukrainians and Russians"? He is the head of Ukraine, so I'm curious what evidence that he is murdering them, and whether Russians in this case refers to enemy combatants or something else.

    Wild claims about foreign leaders murdering their own populations are to be taken with a grain of salt, given how often such has been used for justification for other, horrific acts.

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    Saddam is murdering Iraqis and needs to be eliminated as part of a just war.
    Sounds very cynical.
    If the world is against the Truth, then I am against the World. - St. Athanasius
    In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas - St. Augistine

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #22 on: July 05, 2023, 07:24:22 PM »
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  • He WAS very close to Komoloisky -- it's who funded his campaign. Both were found to have billions offshore when the Panama Papers leaked
    Christ is Risen! He is risen indeed


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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #23 on: July 05, 2023, 07:34:13 PM »
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  • Let's all remember that the globalist satanist elite know about Fatima, they know that Our Lady will convert this nation, and that, through Russia, Our Holy Mother will bring peace/Catholicism to the world.  Satan is not stupid, far from it.

    This push to thwart Russia, to attack it from every angle, is meant to destroy the country before it can convert.  It is a human endeavor, but Our Lady will not be thwarted.

    Here's the "distinguish" part that most of you will have trouble with...

    1.  Saying all of the above does not mean we support Putin, or Russian orthodoxy, or its past, or its current godless goals.
    2.  The above does not mean we are rooting for Russia, nor its leadership, nor its many errors.
    3.  As God sent St Joan of Arc to save a failing, extinguishing, and corrupt France (because He had plans for this country in the future), so some Catholics root for Russia to survive the (human) efforts to destroy the country, not for the present, but for the future.
    4.  Just as France had their illuminati-led revolution in the 1700s and spread her errors across Europe, she later converted and gave us such saints as St John Marie Vianney and restored Catholicism to great heights.


    As most of you admit, the NWO controls most all major nations...so why do you care which nations' win, if they are all bad?
    This constant pro-West, anti-Russia narrative is a waste of time...except when viewed through a Catholic lens.

    Makes me think many of you have lost the Catholic perspective...

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #24 on: July 05, 2023, 07:41:53 PM »
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  • "Nous allons l'enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive", it could only be a dream but it sounds like Macron could secure the world's peace, at least a little better, and save Paris by ensuring that Putin gets first bones and dibs on the Donbass. So be it. My little govenment's all on board. Putin's a bad dude, if you get out of an exchange with him only giving up the Donbass, then you did well, Pilgrim. At least Lithuania's still safe too. Time to bail on Jewlensky and fag workshop.

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #25 on: July 05, 2023, 07:43:52 PM »
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  • I guess it's bale not bail in this case. Gotta bale out and jump out of this plane.


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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #26 on: July 05, 2023, 07:49:47 PM »
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  • Let's all remember that the globalist satanist elite know about Fatima, they know that Our Lady will convert this nation, and that, through Russia, Our Holy Mother will bring peace/Catholicism to the world.  Satan is not stupid, far from it.

    There is no proof that they operate according to Fatima. Satan might be influencing them in the background, but your claim is farfetched.

    This push to thwart Russia, to attack it from every angle, is meant to destroy the country before it can convert.  It is a human endeavor, but Our Lady will not be thwarted.

    There is no proof that this is the case. Russia is the center of global crime. Russia and China invented the modern global drug trade back in the 60s-70s as a means of controlling politicians and spreading Communism. Far from being cornered on the world stage, the Eastern Bloc influences the entire world, and this is most evident in the extent of the control that Communists have of various non-Western nations. If you don't know what I am talking about then you can look at Brazil and Lulu for a recent example which is an increasingly global phenomenon.

    The West isn't encircling Communism. Communism is encircling the West. Talk about Satan and inversion! You have the geopolitical situation entirely backwards.

    Here's the "distinguish" part that most of you will have trouble with...

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    Your premises are completely false. If anything, Russia is taking the blame and the West are giving Russia provocations to attack. It has nothing to do with Russia as a poor, innocent victim.

    As most of you admit, the NWO controls most all major nations...so why do you care which nations' win, if they are all bad?
    This constant pro-West, anti-Russia narrative is a waste of time...except when viewed through a Catholic lens.

    The NWO doesn't have complete control over all peoples and especially not the Western peoples. If they had complete control, they could do what they intend to do to the West right now. Instead they are being forced to implement their agenda inch by inch. The desire to preserve the West is to resist the Communist agenda, which has already succeeded in the East and where their power is ultimately based out of at this point in time. If Russia and China (optionally) collapsed then Global Communism would receive a mortal blow, because it all traces back to Moscow and their long-term strategy.

    Makes me think many of you have lost the Catholic perspective...

    It is not permissible to be Catholic and a Communist. A Catholic Communist has already been condemned. Supporting the Eastern Bloc is supporting Global Communism, whether you like it or not. Russia props up every Communist and similarly authoritarian country in the world against the West. It is not a Catholic perspective to support the enemies of the remnants of Christendom (the Postwar West), the Catholic Church and Catholics around the world threatened by Communism and its anti-Catholic allies.

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #27 on: July 05, 2023, 08:02:11 PM »
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  • You didn't grasp a single word I said.  You're entrenched in an 8th-grade level "either-or" mentality.  Carry on...

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #28 on: July 05, 2023, 08:13:11 PM »
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  • They need to get this Macron character on top of this, if he's good for anything, so Putin can have his Donbass and quit making arrangements to nuke poor Paris. Whatever the malignant forces were, somebody already torched Notre Dame cathedral, and Paris has enough trouble already with people setting cars on fire and rioting, without getting nuked by the Russkies.

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    Re: Mitch Henderson Analysis on Russia/Ukraine
    « Reply #29 on: July 05, 2023, 08:18:05 PM »
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  • The West wages war according to rules.

    Yes, but of course, why would anyone question that.  If dscat40 says it it must be true. :laugh1: :laugh2: