Hal Turner makes one outlandish claim after another. Not credible at all.I knew it was you!!!Actually Hal gets great intel- Intel has to be mixed with a bit of falsity to protect the source.
I knew it was you!!!Actually Hal gets great intel- Intel has to be mixed with a bit of falsity to protect the source.
I say he hits it 85% of the time. Check the rest of the news. Hal got the coup info hours before anyone else. Many reputable sites are using him as a source and loads of sites just don't give him credit for it. I like Hal. Is he wrong now?
Prighozin = Jєω oligarch. If he turns on Putin, it only serves to legitimize Putin even more.
We hoi polloi just don't have the resources to know for sure.
Our Lady of Fatima , save Russia!
Prighozin = Jєω oligarch. If he turns on Putin, it only serves to legitimize Putin even more.
But we have the resources to know that viruses don't exist. May you awaken from your slumber, kind sir.
This confirms from an outside perspective and much speculation that Russian morale towards the war is in tatters and has been for a very long time.
Hal Turner makes one outlandish claim after another. Not credible at all.So when does Putin unleash all of his nuclear missiles on us? The hysterical postings all over the internet are too much.
Most accurate post in the thread. There is no Russian offensive, they are on the defensive, and this is indicative that Ukrainian losses aren't as bad as the alternative media tells us.
Nonsense. Plenty of Putin's friends are Jєωιѕн oligarchs and will continue to divide the spoils in Russia.
As US President Richard M. Nixon was wont to say, "is that guy a Jєω"?
Prigozhin and David Letterman too? Bacon eaters and the messes they cause.
So here are reports that this whole thing was instigated by the CIA, aka JIA, the Jєω Intelligence Agency branch of Mossad.
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1672447994279370753
The Pentagon announced a $6 BILLION "Accounting error" in equipment sent to Ukraine and freed-up $6 Billion. After the Pentagon announced it, Prigozhin, a For-Hire Contractor, makes his move against his own country, Russia. Did the Pentagon pay-off Prigozhin with that $6 B?
This is another Bolshevik Revolution funded by the zionist west.Pray for Putin and for Russia
That's exactly what this is. Magically, as if by some strange Cohencidence, Belarus is also facing a brewing coup/revolution.What is telling is that the 1917 event Putin was referring to in his address to Wagner and the Military was not the Bolshevik revolution, but the February forced abdication of the Czar and resulting cινιℓ ωαr which made the Bolshevik revolution possible.
Wagner Flag flying over Tel Aviv
So when does Putin unleash all of his nuclear missiles on us? The hysterical postings all over the internet are too much.Putin has shown incredible patience and restraint and does not want nuclear war- but for the sake of his nation will resort to it if continually pushed by the west. Its the jew Prigozhin who may(?) get control of those weapons that you really have to be afraid of. Jews and nukes not a pleasant thought
This reminds me of that scene in the movie The Dead Zone where Martin Sheen, playing a crazy religious zealot U.S. president, starts WW3 with a massive first strike. "The missiles are flying. Hallelujah!"
Is Putin crazy or desperate enough to end it all? Would his generals stand for it? I suggest prayer.
You're watching what happens when a country's leader has lost the nation. It's that simple. We will see what happens next.
You're watching what happens when a country's leader has lost the nation. It's that simple. We will see what happens next.
In my lifetime, there have been many nations around the world (mostly third-world and in the Middle East) in which the leaders had lost their nations. Some of these losses have been due to the US (CIA) overthrowing a government leader and putting in a puppet leader, sympathetic to U.S. interests. That's what happened to Saddam Hussein. He was originally a hit man for the CIA in Irag, who helped the U.S. to overthrow his cousin, who was the leader of Iraq. That's how Hussein got into power. But then he went off-script, and that's when the U.S. went after him too.
Hussein actually did a great job of keeping order in Iraq, and he protected the Catholic Church there. Tariq Aziz, his second-in-command, was a Catholic. Catholics regularly held processions in the streets, and any Muslims who would dare attack them would be dealt with harshly by Hussein, so no one tried it. It took an iron hand like his to keep peace in Iraq, since Iraq was a creation of the British (aka the Jєωs), a fake country with borders deliberately drawn up to include about 50% Shia and 50% Sunni, as per the usual divide, destabilize, and control method of the Jєωs.
Yes, it's my understanding too that Hussein gave money to churches if they needed it for repairs or building purposes. No strings attached. He also built up a good public school system, and yes he kept the fanatics under control. My understanding of the situation in Iraq came directly from an Iraqi Christian (protestant, I think) who gave a talk in a local church hall that I attended, about the situation in Iraq, just before the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. He was very concerned about his country, which he had left a year before.I thought Iran was Persia- Iraq was Babylon ( a long time ago)
I agree that Iraq is a fake country - it's really Persia. The British were the ones who first went after Iraqi oil, then the Americans gained control of it.
I thought Iran was Persia- Iraq was Babylon ( a long time ago)
Well, I may be wrong about all of Iraq being historically Persian. It's probably just the western part.I guess borders have changed - lol thanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Iraq
Absolutely and utterly idiotic. You've smoking some good weed. Russia easily wiped out the recent Ukrainian "counter-offensive", and the Ukrainians are being shredded. What a ridiculous shill you've become.Let's break this down: My post was based on factual information and not alt-media nonsense, so the only idiot is you for being so woefully misinformed. You sound more like an idiot with the sophomoric weed retort. Russia didn't "wipe out" anything, and that's how we know you read the alt-media, because Russian sources are the ones crowing about doing nothing. They have paused the counter-offensive according to independent sourcing, but Ukraine itself is being more tight-lipped about it.
If there's some revolt / coup going on from Prigozhin, it's because the US / NATO are fomenting this after the Ukrainian counter-offensive was an epic failure.
More stupidity. Putin purged most of the Jєω oligarchs in the early 2000s. Prigozhin was basically known as "Putin's chef", having made his money by owning some restaurants and catering businesses, and served food to the Kremlin.I don't know why you repeat this obvious lie when I and others on this forum have repeatedly demonstrated to the contrary. More than half of Russia's billionaires are Jєωιѕн, and it's likely more than that have some sort of unknown or undisclosed Jєωιѕн ancestry. Russia is a gangster state run according to a Mafia style, which is readily apparent if you read into one of Putin's favorites like sambo.
Strelkov Igor Ivanovich #KRP
The rebels successfully passed Voronezh and move around the territory of the Lipetsk region. They boast that the advanced outposts of the "Rosgvard" were shot down and took trophies.
Lukashenko held talks with Prigozhin in agreement with Putin — press service of the President of the Republic of Belarus.
Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters.
At the moment, the Russian authorities are keeping deathly silence regarding the whole situation with the announced agreements.
One of the possible scenarios for the development of events is called by many the resignation of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, which Prigozhin tried to achieve with his campaign.
This is supported by the fact that both of these characters were completely absent from the public space of the current conflict. However, there is no confirmation of these predictions yet.
NATO media as usual: when the "march" began, they became Wagner forces and freedom fighters. After the agreement, they became terrorists again
Criminal case on armed rebellion against Prigozhin will be terminated - Peskov
During the negotiations, an agreement was reached that the Wagner PMC fighters would go to field camps, and Prigozhin himself would leave for Belarus.
Surrender and exile. Became known the conditions under which Prigogine stopped the rebellion
23:21, June 24, 2023
Dmitry Peskov
Speaker of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov said that the criminal case against Wagner curator Yevgeny Prigozhin for organizing a rebellion would be dropped, and he would "leave for Belarus."
"The guarantee of Prigozhin's departure to Belarus is the word of the President of Russia," Peskov said.
Peskov does not know who Prigozhin will work after he "leaves for Belarus."
Also, according to him, that part of the "Wagnerites" who initially refused to participate in Prigozhin's rebellion will sign contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense, and they will not be prosecuted by law.
Personnel changes in the Russian Defense Ministry during the negotiations with Prigozhin, which were led by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko , were not discussed, Peskov said.
That is, the dismissal of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov, which was Shoigu's demand, was not discussed.
Judging by the words of Peskov, of the three versions of the reasons for the cessation of the rebellion, which were considered by "Strana" , the first is the most real - Prigozhin's surrender.
1. Prigozhin, according to Peskov, will receive nothing but the closure of the criminal case and exile to Belarus.
2. The dismissal of Shoigu and Gerasimov (at least for now) is also out of the question. That is, no one in this regard met Prigozhin's requirements.
3. Wagnerites (those who did not participate in the rebellion) will be poured into units of the Russian Ministry of Defense. What will happen to the rest, according to Peskov, is not clear (he only said that they would not be prosecuted taking into account "military merit"). Perhaps they will also eventually go to the Ministry of Defense or other power structures of Russia. In any case, PMC "Wagner" in its former "independent" form, apparently, will not exist. At least in Russia and at the front in Ukraine. Maybe somewhere in Africa.
So, the February 1917 remix didn't happen. The rebellion is essentially crushed. Unless Prigozhin and the "Wagnerites" suddenly change their minds about leaving for the "rear camps" and want to replay the agreements.
The reason why they abandoned the rebellion is also, in principle, understandable - the lack of support for their actions in Russia at all levels. And in the army, and in the elites, and in society.
Earlier , Putin thanked Lukashenka for stopping Prigozhin's rebellion .
"Country" figured out what the agreements announced by Lukashenka meant , and whether Prigozhin's rebellion had ended.
https://t.me/strelkovii/5680
Google Translate from Russian:
https://t.me/s/intelslava
https://t.me/intelslava/49338
https://t.me/intelslava/49346
https://t.me/intelslava/49351
https://t.me/intelslava/49356
https://strana-today.translate.goog/news/437974-dmitrij-peskov-rasskazal-chto-budet-s-evheniem-prihozhinym-posle-provala-mjatezha.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Why do they call themselves “Wagnerites?”Superficial reasons. They're psychopaths but it's the Ukrainians and the Azoz Battalion who are the nαzι's, of course.
Does it have anything to do with nαzι ideology (ie., Putin is fighting the nαzι forces terrorizing Russian populations in the Donbas, and Wagner was Hitler’s favorite composer).
Official Minsk: After negotiations with the President of Belarus, Yevgeny Prigozhin stopped the movement of columns of PMC "Wagner"The comment section might also be of interest at the link. Very interesting.
It became known that after a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the leader of the Belarusian state held talks with the curator of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. Recall that earlier, because of the actions of the Wagner group and its curator, a criminal case was initiated in Russia, providing for responsibility for organizing an armed rebellion.
The press service of the President of Belarus reports that as a result of many hours of negotiations, it was possible to reach a "solution". It is reported that it was allegedly after negotiations with the Belarusian president that Yevgeny Prigozhin gave the order to stop the advance of the columns, including in the direction of Moscow.
It is reported that "as a result of the negotiations, they came to the conclusion that the massacre is unacceptable":
Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted Alexander Lukashenko's proposal to stop the movement of all armed convoys in Russia.
Measures have been taken to de-escalate tensions.
The reports say that "there is a variant of an agreement acceptable to the parties on the table, which implies security guarantees for the Wagner fighters and the command of the group."
In fact, we can talk about an amnesty for the Wagner fighters, whom the PMC command sent to attempt an armed rebellion. Also, apparently, guarantees were given to Prigogine himself.
Why do they call themselves “Wagnerites?”Sorry, I just know the theories and it looks like you have some exposure to them yourself. Perhaps there is a Russian source with a more definitive claim, but I haven't seen it. The story that seems reasonable to me is that Dmitry Utkin was their founder, he was a Wagner fan and used it as his codename. It follows naturally that his name and beliefs would figure heavily in the group, which we might compare to the SSPX and St. Pius X.
Does it have anything to do with nαzι ideology (ie., Putin is fighting the nαzι forces terrorizing Russian populations in the Donbas, and Wagner was Hitler’s favorite composer).
"The Jєωs every single time", and from more than one side. Putin's all Heebie Patrol too and the "coup" seems to have been fake. There's some kind of funny triangulation going on again.
This tangled web is certainly well within the rubrics of Kabbalism, especially as it approaches the extermination of the "iskra" ("sparks") of "Amalek" (currently, parlance for gentiles) and "Edom" (Western Civilization, such as it is).
What's next? The yellow dust of death spread by the Russians across Europe as foreseen by Alois Irimaier?
Interestingly, an "accounting error" led to the disappearance of 6.2 billion dollars just a couple days prior. FSB searched Prigozhin's quarters and found a fake passport along with over a million dollars in cash. Clearly, Prigozhin was paid off by Western intelligence.This is some mind-boggling stupid nonsense being passed around without evidence and by the usual suspects, such as Kim Dotcom. Notice how for the Russophile the most outlandish claim is credible so long as it is critical of America and/or NATO in support of their Holy Mother Russia. Consider even billionaires don't have anywhere near a billion in hard cash and it becomes even more ludicrous with Prigozhin's new Belarusian exile.
- The Kremlin has waffled on punishing those involved in the "coup." A general was identified for punishment, but it was also said that he was only questioned.
- Wagner marched on the Kremlin to Rostov basically unopposed. The Rostovians welcomed Wagner troops into Rostov completely unopposed and even greeted them like some sort of liberating force. It's thought that the original casualty reports might not even be true, though 15 Russians were said to have been killed.
- Wagner still has the option of going to Belarus or joining the main Russian army. This "coincidentally" lines up with the transfer of tactical nuclear warheads to Belarus.
- There is an interesting, but unprovable prediction by a Yuri Felshtinsky that Russia intends to use a "rogue group" like Wagner to launch the nukes at Poland and Lithuania.
It is thought that this will lead to a peace summit and a way out for Biden by abandoning Ukraine to Russian ambitions. It's farfetched and prone to error, but curiously there is a NATO summit in the time frame of July 11 that he predicted:
https://www.ap.org/services/live-and-location-services/events/nato-summit
Yuri FelshtinskyHere's a link to a quick version of his statements, starting around the 55:38
I noticed the usual suspects have moved on to more inflammatory anti-Western threads.
Zelensky's a war criminal.Prigozhin, Putin and many other Russian elites are war criminals and will be arrested if they step outside of Russia's sphere of influence.
Even the Chechen commander that came in to replace Wagner was openly marveling about why Zelensky kept sending Ukrainians into the meat grinder, saying that they can't even get past their first line of defense and are just getting wiped out in what are effectively ѕυιcιdє missions. Yet the Jєω Zelensky continues to murder Ukrainians, refusing all attempts at mediation or peace talks.Russia and her allies have a history of making these assertions and later being revealed as outright liars or the actual perpetrators. Nothing they say can be taken at face value, and especially not taqiya from Moslems. It is telling that you and other Russophiles are willing to believe Russian "Orthodox," other Greek schismatics and anti-Christian Moslems over the Catholics being butchered in Ukraine.
I don't understand your malfunction, as this glorious "West" is no longer the Christendom of days past. Jєωs have completely de-Christianized and perverted the entire West.
In fact, the Democrats (Biden et al.) are more Marxist than Putin ever was in in his KGB days. You've got these ridiculous blinders on.
Russians are tired. They're pissed.This is a particularly hard fact for the those cheering on the Kremlin to face. I don't know if the "coup" was a show or not, but Russia is obviously in a dangerous place. These kinds of theatrics wouldn't necessary if Russia were doing that well in the war. Russians have been suffering this burden for a long time now and with nothing to show for it.
Yeah, Putin is such a war criminal and hates Ukraine so much, he waited almost 9 months to bomb electric/internet grid.
He would’ve done this on Day 1 had he wanted to obliterate the Ukrainians, which he doesn’t.
We’ve been spared nuclear war because Putin is a moderate. NATO keeps goading him to go full-on war. Eventually, it’ll happen.
Claiming that you need to liberate Russians from nαzιs in neighboring country is more akin to genocide.Do you accept the fact that Zelenky's "special forces" (or whatever you want to call them) of the Ukrainian army openly wear nαzι symbols and have tattoos of such things (as well as satanic images)? Yes or no?
Do you accept the fact that Zelenky's "special forces" (or whatever you want to call them) of the Ukrainian army openly wear nαzι symbols and have tattoos of such things (as well as satanic images)? Yes or no?I don't answer your loaded questions. In the first place, it is not permissible to invade a county in order to "de-nαzιfy" it. Russian claims of Ukrainian atrocities in Eastern Ukraine have only the weight of Russian allegations behind them. There is plenty of reason to believe in the allegations of Russian atrocities with so many ruined lives and buildings wherever they occupy in Ukraine.
Russian claims of Ukrainian atrocities in Eastern Ukraine have only the weight of Russian allegations behind them.:jester: Every major NATO country (US, France, England, etc) admitted they violated the 2014 peace agreement for the Donbas region. All major West newspapers have admitted such.
:jester: Every major NATO country (US, France, England, etc) admitted they violated the 2014 peace agreement for the Donbas region. All major West newspapers have admitted such.1. Ukraine fought Russian proxies and likely Russian forces, though Russia denies the latter.
NATO violated the 2014 peace agreement, not Russia. You can deny it all you want, but it's a fact.NATO did not violate the Minsk agreements because it was not a signatory to either one. Both times it involved representatives from the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine. They were from Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). Many Western nations have supported Minsk, but they were not signatories. Wrong again, alt media.