Author Topic: It's WMD all over again. Why don't we see it? (Read 731 times)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **on:** April 05, 2017, 07:54:29 PM »

It's WMD All Over Again. Why Don't You See It?
By Peter Hitchens
April 05, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - Actually knowing something, remembering history or having experience of the world is becoming a disadvantage. How much easier it would be to join in with the flow of opinion about Syria, to listen happily to, and read contentedly, media reports on the subject.
As it is, I feel something close a physical pain as I do this.
Today’s frenzy over alleged use of poison gas in Syria is the 2017 version of Anthony Blair’s WMD in Iraq. Why can you not see it? Did you think they would do it in

exactly the same way again? You are being assailed through your emotions, to act first and think long after, and far too late.
How *can* trained journalists (and experienced diplomats) be so lacking in the desire or ability to question what they are told? How come that they accept without hesitation reports which have not come from their own staff, but instead come from within terrifying war zones where gangs of fanatical murderers are the only law? One or two at least have the decency to refer to the new reports of gas attacks as ‘suspected’ or alleged, but most present them as established fact. ‘All the hallmarks’ means in such cases what? Though millions believe this has been proven, past accusations of gas use by Damascus have never been independently shown to be true.
Well, how can facts *be* independently established about such events? Not easily. Alas, that makes it appalling simple to make propaganda without ever facing serious checks .
The pressures on anyone communicating with western media from such places can only be imagined.
And then there is this simple point. Why would the Syrian government use gas at this stage in a war it has recently begun to win with conventional munitions? You don’t have to believe that the Assad state is saintly to ask this question, and I don’t believe that. Please see http://dailym.ai/2h1XZAvCarla del Ponte, for the UN, has in the past accused the *rebels* of gas usehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10039672/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html
Wicked and brutal they may well be, but they would have to be stupid and possibly mad to do such an thing, just as an important conference convenes in Brussels https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news_corner/news/brussels-conference-supporting-future-syria-and-region-4-5-april-2017_en to discuss the future of Syria.
The military advantages would be tiny . Chemical weapons have not been widely used since the 1914-18 war not because soldiers have been especially tender, but because, though very nasty, they are not an especially effective weapon of war. In the 1939-45 war, many barbarous things were done , especially by largely lawless nations such as Germany and Japan, and indeed by the USSR. But gas was not used on the battlefield.
The political and diplomatic disadvantages would be huge. If Syria could be shown ( as it has not yet been) to have used gas to kill children, it would mean total diplomatic isolation, and renewed calls in Britain and the USA (which only a few days ago abandoned its aim of overthrowing Assadhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/us-assad-syria-ambassador-un-nikki-haley-a7659266.html ) to intervene against Assad.

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RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2017, 10:25:42 AM »

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Media Goes Quiet as Russia Exposes US Lies at Security Council
by Richard Brandt via Information Clearing House
Russia just called out the West for using the UN to promote regime change — but no one reported it
Twitter was flooded with commentary about Nikki Haley’s call to arms against Russia during the Security Council meeting on Wednesday afternoon. But no one bothered to report what Russia had to say.
Russia’s deputy United Nations ambassador Vladimir Safronkov said that the West’s“obsession with regime change is what hinders this Security Council.”
He noted that for Washington and its partners, “everything is guided by regime change”and allegations that Assad used chemical weapons in an attack in Idlib province on Tuesday are based on “falsified reports from the White Helmets”, an organization that has been“discredited long ago”.
Russia’s UN representative observed that in “photos and videos we see the White Helmets acting very unprofessionally. Their behavior is very relaxed in these extreme circuмstances. All of this is clearly meant to provoke. All of this has been reflected in the resolution.”
Safronkov then asks the US, UK and France: “Did this event take place? Have you even checked what you wrote?”
Russia’s representative finished by slamming the UK for blaming Russia for the deaths of children in Syria. He said that the UK “does nothing” for Syria except “submit drafts meant to provoke” and “pressure investigations” into reporting politically favorable results.
We can’t find a single mainstream report that focuses solely on Safronkov’s comments.
Apparently the media can’t even identify who Safronkov is.
Here’s how the geniuses at the Interpreter reported this — but misidentifying the person who was actually speaking. What’s the difference? They’re all Russians:
https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/06/media-goes-quiet-as-russia-exposes-us-lies-at-security-council/

The Neocons wants to start a hot war to cover up their real agenda. It is all for Israel.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2017, 11:10:49 PM »

Operation Mockingbird

TheHun · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2017, 12:54:58 AM »

I strongly believe that this was a fαℓѕє fℓαg Operation. Assad was in a winning position internally and internationally, therefore it's illogical for him to provoke the world. CUI BONO?
Richard Spencer tweeted: "Will Trump Gas His Presidency Over Syria?" Also: "Assad whatever else he might be is smart enough to be a MD, why would he do the ONE thing guaranteed to get him in trouble with the Empire?"
Ron Paul said: “I think it’s zero chance that he would have done this deliberately.” Additionally: "It makes no sense, even if you were totally separate from this and take no sides of this and you were just an analyst, it doesn’t make sense for Assad under these conditions to all of the sudden use poison gasses."
We know now that Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964 did not happen? However, Congress that time granted authority to President Johnson to fight a full-fledged war in Vietnam. You know the result.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2017, 03:10:09 AM »

Holy crap. Donald Trump did a total 180. His opposition to screwing with Assad was one of the reasons I voted for him. Pretty pissed at Trump right now.

Klinton would've been worse. But still. Total 180.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2017, 08:42:46 AM »

So far, no response from Putin. I heard that the Russians were notified by the State Department 10 minutes before
the attack.

In my morning newspaper online there was a poll and shows how the media are confusing people and this is how the question was phrased:

Do you believe the White House blaming the Obama Administration for the Syrian Sarin gas attack? Yes or No.

Unless you get your news from the alternative media such as 21centurywire.com and it is true that the U.S. and
coalition forces has been supplying the Syrian rebels and Isis military hardware and WW1 vintage sarin gas. Something
wrong about the photos I have seen so far. You are not to touch a body with your bare hands. You have to wear
body protector gear similar if you are handling asbestos.

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2017, 08:55:37 AM »

Trump has rejoined the establishment so no change there. It did not take long to dump his fake electioneering philosophy. The reaction to his belligerence is coming from left-wingers ......

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2017, 11:01:30 AM »

Thursday on the “Ron Paul Liberty Report,” former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) suggested the chemical weapon earlier this week blamed on the Syrian government could be a fαℓѕє fℓαg.
Paul went as far to say there was zero chance Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was to blame because it wouldn’t make sense for him to use chemical weapons at this point in time.

“I looked at The New York Times to get the explanation, and they said ‘Worst Chemical Attack In Years In Syria, U.S. Blames Assad,'” Paul said. “So it is all over and done with? But it is not quite so easy, is it? What happened four years ago in 2013? You know, this whole thing about crossing the Red Line. And ever since then the neo-cons have been yelling and screaming — even part of the administration has been yelling and screaming about Assad using poison gasses on his people four years ago. Not quite true. It was never proven.”
“t doesn’t make any sense for Assad under these conditions to all of a sudden use poison gasses,” he continued. “I think there is a zero chance he would have done, you know, this deliberately. But we could also go ask a famous Senator who is famous for foreign policy. We could go ask John McCain to explain it. And he found somebody to blame. And I don’t know why he has it in for the president.”

“McCain says blame Trump,” Paul later added. “It is all Trump’s fault because he hasn’t been aggressive enough.”
Source: Breitbart.com, zerohedge.com

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2017, 11:07:16 AM »

PENTAGON TRAINED SYRIA’S AL QAEDA “REBELS” IN THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Pentagon_Trained_Syria%E2%80%99s_Al_Qaeda_%E2%80%9CRebels%E2%80%9D_in_the_Use_of_Chemical_Weapons/57792/0/38/38/Y/M.html

TheHun · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2017, 04:59:29 PM »

Candidate Trump promised to draining the swamp but now he is sinking into the swamp.
He turned 180 degree from his campaign promise with the unjustifiable Syrian attack.
He's gonna be a Bush III.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #10 on:** April 08, 2017, 12:12:39 AM »

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