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Offline Vandaler

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Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
« on: January 06, 2007, 10:13:39 PM »
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  • Israel will not tolerate Iran going nuclear and military sources say it will use tactical strikes unless Iran abandons its programme. Is Israel bluffing or might it really push the button? Uzi Mahnaimi in New York and Sarah Baxter in Washington report

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535177,00.html


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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 09:21:34 AM »
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  •  Israel denies planning Iran nuke attack 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
     


    LONDON - A British newspaper reported Sunday that        Israel has drafted plans to strike as many as three targets in        Iran with low-yield nuclear weapons, aiming to halt Tehran's uranium enrichment program. The Israeli Foreign Ministry denied the report.
     
    Citing multiple unidentified Israeli military sources, The Sunday Times said the proposals involved using so-called "bunker-buster" nuclear weapons to attack nuclear facilities at three sites south of the Iranian capital.

    Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said it would not respond to the claim. "We don't respond to publications in the Sunday Times," said Miri Eisin, Olmert's spokeswoman.

    Israeli Minister of Strategic Threats Avigdor Lieberman also declined to comment on the report.

    Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev denied the report and said that "the focus of the Israeli activity today is to give full support to diplomatic actions" and the implementation of a        U.N. Security Council resolution imposing sanctions on Iran for refusing to halt enrichment.

    The United States and its allies accuse Tehran of secretly trying to produce atomic weapons, but Iran claims its nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes, including generating electricity.

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has condemned as invalid and illegal the U.N. resolution.

    Though Olmert has not explicitly ruled out a military strike against Iran's nuclear program, he has repeatedly said the issue should be dealt with diplomatically.

    Because an Iranian nuclear bomb would affect the entire world, Olmert has said, the problem must be solved by the international community.

    The Sunday Times reported that Mossad, the Israeli spy agency, believes Iran could produce enough enriched uranium to build nuclear weapons within two years. It also reported the top three targets for the Israelis were Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed, a heavy water reactor at Arak and a uranium conversion facility near Isfahan.

    Israeli pilots, the newspaper reported, have made flights to the British colony of Gibraltar to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets.

    The Israeli army declined to comment when asked by The Associated Press on Sunday whether the Israeli air force was training for an attack against Iranian nuclear facilities.

    "I refuse to believe that anyone here would consider using nuclear weapons against Iran," Reuven Pedatzur, a prominent defense analyst and columnist for the daily Haaretz, told the AP. "It is possible that this was a leak done on purpose, as deterrence, to say 'someone better hold us back, before we do something crazy.'"

    Ephraim Kam, a strategic expert at Tel Aviv University's Institute for National Strategic Studies and a former senior army intelligence officer, also dismissed the report.

    "No reliable source would ever speak about this, certainly not to the Sunday Times," Kam said.

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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 10:47:34 AM »
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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 11:06:07 AM »
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  • I guess that kind of settles the "lesser of two evils" issue.  There isn't any.
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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 11:52:07 AM »
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    Reuven Pedatzur, a prominent defense analyst and columnist for the daily Haaretz, told the AP. "It is possible that this was a leak done on purpose, as deterrence, to say 'someone better hold us back, before we do something crazy.'"

    I agree with the above quote. This is likely muscle diplomacy through the press.

    This is on the heels of the release last week of the annual report from the Institute for National Strategic Studies, a Tel Aviv-based think tank with strong ties to the pro-Israeli Washington Institute for Near East Policy, which claims that Israel can take out Iran's nuclear site on its own.

    Israel still have time till Iran has a weaponized nuclear program and it is hardly ready militarily or politically after the debacle of last summer in Lebanon for an attack on Iran.

    It still can flex its muscles though.


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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #5 on: January 07, 2007, 01:35:46 PM »
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  • I posted on Cathinfo (in this sub-forum) several months ago an article which talked about Israel giving Bush "six months" to attack Iran -- or they would do something themselves.

    I believe that was at least 3 months ago...

    Also, I am hesitant to believe Israel's official statements of any kind -- they are the same ones who claimed (and still claim) that the MASSIVE operations in Gaza and Lebanon (which obviously required months of planning) were the result of two spontaneous kidnappings of 2 individual soldiers. Yeah right!

    Sorry, I'm not that stupid. My brain still works, so much the worse for them.

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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 01:45:05 PM »
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  • Ready or not, rabid animals attack.

     The two world wars were prepared and sparked by those who call themselves "Jєωs" _ according to Mr.Benjamin Freedman. And world war three is now in the making by these same people. The masquerade of h0Ɩ0cαųsts is just that _ a diversionary tactic of the fox preparing to raid the hen house again.

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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 02:59:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: ChantCd
    I posted on Cathinfo (in this sub-forum) several months ago an article which talked about Israel giving Bush "six months" to attack Iran -- or they would do something themselves.

    I believe that was at least 3 months ago...

    Also, I am hesitant to believe Israel's official statements of any kind -- they are the same ones who claimed (and still claim) that the MASSIVE operations in Gaza and Lebanon (which obviously required months of planning) were the result of two spontaneous kidnappings of 2 individual soldiers. Yeah right!

    Sorry, I'm not that stupid. My brain still works, so much the worse for them.

    Matthew

    Quite frankly, for me, what would be news is that the Israeli Air Force was not training for such missions.   It's their job to be ready for any likely scenario.  The article above is a leak, and it's leaking the obvious.

    Does Israel have a point at which it will act unilaterally?  Yes, I believe so, but I don't think this point has been reached yet.






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    « Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 03:07:47 PM »
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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, Vandaler, but you seem to think that Israel is being acted upon, rather than the ones acting.
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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #9 on: January 07, 2007, 03:26:12 PM »
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    Does Israel have a point at which it will act unilaterally?  Yes, I believe so, but I don't think this point has been reached yet.


    Israel will create a point(fαℓѕє fℓαg) in due time.

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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 04:10:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Trinity
    Correct me if I'm wrong, Vandaler, but you seem to think that Israel is being acted upon, rather than the ones acting.


    I don't know what you mean.

    Israel is both acting and also is acted upon. It's in a precarious security situation.
    I am neutral, neither seing them as the bad or the good guy.  Perhaps this is what you wanted to know.


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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 04:23:50 PM »
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  • Yes, you told me what I asked about.  Unfortunately, your neutrality isn't dictating the course of events.
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    Israel: Plans To Bunker-Bust Iranian Nuke Sites?
    « Reply #12 on: January 07, 2007, 04:48:37 PM »
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  • It just isn't logical that a small nothing of a country (the size of New Jersey, with even LESS population!) is the only nuclear power in the Middle East, gets billions of dollars from the USA, has enormous worldwide political influence, etc.

    When you look at it objectively, it is AT LEAST extremely odd, even bizarre.

    Isreal does not produce vital exports we need (like, say, Japan or Taiwan) so WHY is there such a powerful pro-Israel lobby in the US congress/government? Why is everyone afraid to criticize Israel and/or the Jєωs?

    Wise men say that you can tell who holds the REAL POWER by asking yourself, "Who am I not allowed to criticize?" Well, we can criticize the democrats, republicans, and George Bush all day long. But if anyone says a word against the Jєωs...ANTI-SEMITISM!

    So when I read the Protocols, alternative news sites, etc. I start to understand -- and it (finally) starts to make sense.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 04:54:41 PM »
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  • Started to understand what, Chant?  That Israel isn't as neutral as Vandaler is?
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    « Reply #14 on: January 07, 2007, 04:57:51 PM »
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