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Offline josefamenendez

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iSOC: Christian Russia’s War Against the NWO
« on: May 05, 2022, 10:17:42 PM »
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  • Gary Giuffre

    Christian Russia’s War against the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr has begun in Ukraine
    May 3, 2022
    Listen to the interview using the player below, or download it*!
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    https://isoc.ws

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    Re: iSOC: Christian Russia’s War Against the NWO
    « Reply #1 on: May 06, 2022, 09:10:36 AM »
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  • "Christian" Russia? 

    I've posted a lot on this subject, but here's one article from RT (so no one can accuse me of posting "globohomo propaganda") that shoots this narrative dead in the water: 

    Putin: Communist ideology similar to Christianity, Lenin’s body like saintly relics

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    “Maybe I’ll say something that someone might dislike, but that’s the way I see it,” Putin said in an interview for the docuмentary Valaam, an excerpt of which was broadcast on Russia 1. “First of all, faith has always accompanied us, becoming stronger every time our country, our people, have been through hard times.

    “There were those years of militant atheism when priests were eradicated, churches destroyed, but at the same time a new religion was being created. Communist ideology is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, brotherhood, justice – everything is laid out in the Holy Scripture, it’s all there. And the code of the builder of communism? This is sublimation, it’s just such a primitive excerpt from the Bible, nothing new was invented.”

    Putin went further by comparing the Communists’ attitude to the Bolshevik leader Lenin to the veneration of saints in Christianity. “Look, Lenin was put in a mausoleum. How is this different from the relics of saints for Orthodox Christians and just for Christians? When they say that there’s no such tradition in Christianity, well, how come, go to Athos and take a look, there are relics of the saints there, and we have holy relics here,” Putin concluded.


    By the way, here's an RT article from October 2021 that demonstrates how highly the Russian state thinks of people like us (with some emphasis from yours truly): 

    On Contact: Neofascist seizure of America’s state governments


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    On the show, Chris Hedges discusses the seizure of state governments by America’s homegrown neofascist movement with the historian Paul Street.

    The creeping homegrown Christianized fascism that is steadily gaining power in the United States is most evident not in Washington but in state-level politics. Some 150 million Americans live in fully or mainly “red states,” where state politics and policy are completely or largely in the hands of a neofascist Republican party. There are 22 states where Republicans control the governorship and legislatives bodies. There are 15 states where the Democratic party controls the governorship and legislative bodies. And there are 13 states with divided governments. In the “red” states such as Texas and Florida, laws are being passed to suppress voting, outlaw abortion, forbid honest discussion of white systemic racism in public education, ban local governments and school districts from enforcing minimum wage ordinances, prohibit local vaccine and mask mandates, cut pandemic-related unemployment benefits, reject federal Medicaid dollars to help the poor receive health care, and persecute undocuмented workers and their families. The nation’s most retrograde corporate political funders and operatives – the Koch-backed “fifth column” culprits in historian Nancy MacLean’s book Democracy in Chains – have long focused heavily on politics and policy at the state level. State politics, with the collapse of the local press and its consolidation by a handful of corporations, is an easy mark. It is rarely covered and almost never in-depth. Corporations, for relatively small costs, can buy the loyalty of state officials and banish those who do not do their bidding. What is happening, as the historian Paul Street writes, is that in the white-nationalist “flyover” states, Republican neofascists are hard-wiring these jurisdictions to orchestrate this creeping coup with Leninist discipline.

    Paul Street is the author of 10 books including his latest Hollow Resistance: Obama, Trump, and the Politics of Appeasement. He also writes regularly for Counterpunch where he published a recent column headlined “What Happens in the Red States.”

    YouTube channel: On Contact

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    Podcast: https://soundcloud.com/rttv/sets/on-contact-1

    CH: Welcome to On Contact.  Today we discuss the seizure of state governments by America’s homegrown neo-fascist movement with the historian, Paul Street.

    PS: Their opposition to abortion was intimately related to a much broader overall fascistic worldview about just about everything, people are.  And the connecting link in all of this was personal responsibility.  They kept going on and on about personal responsibility.  Poor people are poor because they’re lazy.  There’s also this under text of inferior.  They even view COVID at the level of just a completely personal level.  They blame people for getting COVID.  It’s a personal responsibility issue.  They are obsessed with the notion that anytime the government ever steps in to help anyone, welfare programs, or pro union legislation, or public health mandates, that that is a socialist, Marxist, totalitarian assault on personal responsibility.


    Is this kind of rhetoric really any different from the nonsense on CNN or MSNBC? 

    The only reason why Catholics and secular dissident right wingers believe Russia is their ally is because they have been ideologically subverted and demoralized, just as Yuri Bezmenov warned us about. 









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    Re: iSOC: Christian Russia’s War Against the NWO
    « Reply #2 on: May 06, 2022, 11:29:51 AM »
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  • I'm not defending Putin as a saint or anything like this and I'm not advocating communism/socialism.... but the catholic economic ideal of distributism has much more in common with Communism (the economic ideal) than Capitalism.  The way the economy worked in the Middle Ages (at the height of catholic sanctity and order) was much more "you have a duty to help your fellow man" (i.e. socialism) than "every man for himself fights to win the most" (i.e. capitalism).

    Capitalism's error is it takes individuality to the extreme, and there is no social duty to help anyone.  Communism/socialism's error takes the duty of charity to the extreme and destroy's individuality.  The catholic ideal is individuality + obligation to help society, in a balance.

    I'd say American capitalism (apart from the political corruption...just looking at the common american joe) had a balance at one time.  We Americans are very materialistic but we're also very charitable.  We're not saints but the the proof of this is, the more and more that the middle class gets economically squeezed, the more and more charity organizations suffer.  Why is that?  Because most of the rich aren't very charitable but most "avg joes" are.

    To sum up, Putin has a slight point, if he's referring to the "modern" version of russian communism (i.e. less govt and an actual middle class).  This is kinda what we have here in America now (we are more communistic than capitalistic).  If the middle class has the freedom to earn a proper wage (even living in a communistic country), most will be thankful and "give back".  This is kinda, sorta similar to Catholic distributism.  The balance between individuality and charity.

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    Re: iSOC: Christian Russia’s War Against the NWO
    « Reply #3 on: May 07, 2022, 01:58:35 PM »
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