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Quote from: crossbro

Back in the late 1930s a famous US officer by the name of Billy Mitchell told Congress that Japan would attack the United States.

A congressman got up and publically humiliated Billy Mitchell for "offending" Japan whom he called a peaceful ally.

Arguing that China and the US are mutually dependent is something to be scoffed at. China, as I stated before, has a 4 year military goal of defeating the USA. How serious are they about it ?

The only thing holding the Chinese back is the possibility of thermal nuclear warfare. the USA has the ability to blow up the entire planet 60 times over. One ballistic nuclear missile sub could easily destroy every single Chinese city within minutes.

Hmm you should be reminded that during this time in the 1930's the Roosevelt Administration was already trying to bait and humiliate Japan so they would attack, so that America could go to war against Germany.

And if we see China as dangerous consider how we must look to the Chinese? After the Cold War we had the chance to go home, having no "great crusade" after the defeat of Communism, but we instead made it our goal to be the "unipolar power." And indeed neoconservatives Kristol and Kagan had declared that we need to "contain the Chinese from rising to a global power."

That being said obviously we must stop this insane trade policy that is supporting China's massive growth.

Once again the blame game on the USA for "baiting" Japan into war. You "remind" me of nothing except the ignorant political conspiracy hacks out there.

It goes like this: Japan which was engaged in genocide and the rape of China had to defend itself against the USA because the USA had the nerve to be offended by the rape of Nanking. No wonder the Japanese chopped off the heads of US officers in front of their wives after the battle of Wake Island- serves them right.

Part II- The United States did nothing while Hitler exterminated 6 million Jews- of course this is from the same people who complain about US "global unipolar power".

Grow up, dude. I remember how the whole country, mainly people like you screamed "wag the dog" when Clinton tried to bomb Bin Laden in Afghanistan after the African embassy bombings. Next you will blame the US for the genocide of the Kurds carried out by Sadam Hussein then complain about the US invading Iraq like there was not a decade of violating the cease fire or genocide to support it.

Two points:  

1)  The US military is over-extended and in decline.  

2)  War is the big, red financial reset button.

Exactly. Such a war would give birth to a new world. One in which selling cheap goods to the US would not be a necessity.

Another point is that due to abortion, China has a surplus of men. I think something like 30 million. This is due to families who are allowed only one child. And when faced with that restriction most opt to have a son and kill the daughter in the womb.

That alone gives them lots of canon fodder to run into machine gun fire. When 30 million men are killed in a war, they will be even with the rest of the nations in terms of ration of men to women. Think about that.

And they have a billion plus to begin with.

You cannot blame Clinton or Bush (Sr & Jr) for 9/11. Long before troops were anywhere near Saudi Arabia there was Beruit Lockerbie and scores of other attacks. If it was not Mecca it just would have been something else.

Yes we can. Between the time Bush Sr. went into office and Bush Jr. came into office, we invaded Panama, intervened in Somalia, adopted a "dual containment" between Iraq and Iran, pushed NATO all the way to Russia's borders, etc. Should we not say that others might not take too kindly to us being the world's policeman? As for Beirut we intervened in the cινιℓ ωαr over there, leading to the bombing which lead to Reagan pulling us out of Lebanon. And let us not forget the Islamic world sees our Hollywood culture as ungodly and sick which corrupts the minds of Muslim children and sees us (and rightly so) trying to push our values of feminism on the Islamic world.

Less than 10 000 soldiers and civilians (9/11) have been killed in 13 years since 9/11. 60 000 US soldiers were killed in Vietnam in 10 years.

While what you say is true, Iraq and Afghanistan were the wars that drove the nails into the coffin when it came to the bankruptcy of this nation and our decline right now. The Iraq War alone cost us over $1.7 trillion and let us not even mention the cost when it came to Afghanistan. And just like Vietnam was started on a lie (the "Gulf of Tonkin incident") the Iraq War was started over a lie; that Iraq had WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda. What's worse is that the neoconservatives around the Bush Adminstration knew it was a lie and did high crimes and misdemeanors by lying through their teeth for a political purpose (Iraq was an enemy of Israel, and neoconservatives see Tel Aviv as Washington D.C.).

The invasion of Iraq was a good thing. We ended a genocide, but of course that is going to be ignored because the people who were being gassed were not white or Jews.

Christians in Iraq are now fleeing since we toppled over Saddam and gave the Iraqis a democratic government. Saddam Hussein protected the Christians. And it is not our place to end genocides, but it is our place to use foreign policy for national interests, and Iraq was no threat to America, did not attack us, and did not want war with us. By the way even though Bush Sr. thundered, "This will not stand!" when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Kuwait was actually severed from Iraq by Churchill. And the same "usual suspects" who cheered the Iraq War now want us to attack Iran. As Mr. Bush so eloquently stated, "Is we learning?" Well I guess not.

I really do not feel like replying to anymore of your silly posts.

Well that is a response from someone who has lost the debate. I am surprised you have lost it already this early.